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-   -   Road conditions in Mongolia and Kazakhstan - Leaving in two weeks (https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/northern-and-central-asia/road-conditions-mongolia-kazakhstan-leaving-70780)

klausmong1 28 Jul 2013 05:05
In UB yesterday i met some riders, they have been 2 days behind us and they tried to take the northern route up before Olgi.

They said my information was true, they tried a whole day to find a way through the watercrossings and gave up.
Wuter was mor than 1 meter high.

So I think it really depends when youn try to do this part, a few days can make a difference

NYLon2000 29 Jul 2013 03:44
I havent made it all the way across (went from UB to Ulanagom so far) and the water was no higher than 4 inches! Rather disappointing really. So, unless there's a torrent on the way to Olgii, then it clearly changes day by day.

Tiger3 2 Aug 2013 21:54
Hello, for info it is possible to put the bike on a train to a Shymken actobé.
I did last June with my 1200GSA (a made Bergerac/astrakan/Samarkand/khorog/osh and go back)
Tiger

Jervig 31 Dec 2013 15:04
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Originally Posted by Snoah (Post 428331)
I just finished the Northern route from UB to Altai. (sorry I can't post a link right now, Google maps is not working correct for me)

"It is to muddy" they said. "you won't make it" they said. I had dry,dusty,rocky, desert like riding the whole way. With the exception of of a few small river crossings and this one just south of Moron. N49.5844 E100.1513 The bridge is down. Not bad.. maybe 30cm deep.

There is no place to cross the Boh Moron River here. N49.7369 E90.2087
I went north until I was 20km from the russian border. There were some place where it looked like people in 4x4 crossed but I was not about to try on the KTM.. alone.
You have to go south of Achit Nuur Lake. There is a small river crossing on the east side of the lake also.
You do.t need to go south so far, just to take the old track and cross here:
N49 42.409 E90 13.694

Locals sign it with wooden sticks in the water.

Groetjes,

Jeroen

TuruczTibor 12 Jan 2014 10:50
Colebatch I can see from your replies that you have been riding different places in the world. I'm planning a world around trip on motorbike. I have a 1200 GSA. My plan would be from Budapest to Vladivostok through Kazachstan and Mongolia, North America then go to South America then over to Australia then Africa-India and back to Hungary. Based on your experience should I keep my 1200 GSA for this trip or should I change it to a 650 GS. The reason I'm asking is because the majority of this trip will be either on paved road or on hard surface. You made me concerned regarding Mongolia and I've read some stories about South America also. I will camp wherever I can, so I think I will be packed. I think I will have and additional 70 Kg-s of staff. The trip will start in 2015 so I still have time. I really like the comfort of the 1200 gsa, but based on your expertise whish bike would you recommend?
I appreciate your help.

Thanks

laroche 12 Jan 2014 12:02
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Originally Posted by Kilian (Post 425820)
Thanks for the info guys!

Walter, I downloaded, trimmed and copied your waypoints into my Garmin, great job, I bet they have been very useful for a lot of people here!
Have you stayed in some of the hotels you've included for Kazakhstan and Mongolia? I was wondering what the prices are on average... see if I can afford a proper rest from time to time!

For those of you who have travelled this route before: I have calculated about two weeks for Kazakhstan and then a week from Tashanta to UB, is this realistic?
hello,
I want to do this trip with a side car in 2015 , please where have you find the waypoints ?
thanks
chris
vieux-motards-quejamais.blogspot.com

klausmong1 13 Jan 2014 07:49
Quote:
Originally Posted by TuruczTibor (Post 450000)
Colebatch I can see from your replies that you have been riding different places in the world. I'm planning a world around trip on motorbike. I have a 1200 GSA. My plan would be from Budapest to Vladivostok through Kazachstan and Mongolia, North America then go to South America then over to Australia then Africa-India and back to Hungary. Based on your experience should I keep my 1200 GSA for this trip or should I change it to a 650 GS. The reason I'm asking is because the majority of this trip will be either on paved road or on hard surface. You made me concerned regarding Mongolia and I've read some stories about South America also. I will camp wherever I can, so I think I will be packed. I think I will have and additional 70 Kg-s of staff. The trip will start in 2015 so I still have time. I really like the comfort of the 1200 gsa, but based on your expertise whish bike would you recommend?
I appreciate your help.

Thanks
Well, I am not colebatch, but Mongolia with a 1200GSA is sporty, I would strongly recommend your 650

klausmong1 13 Jan 2014 07:49
Quote:
Originally Posted by laroche (Post 450012)
hello,
I want to do this trip with a side car in 2015 , please where have you find the waypoints ?
thanks
chris
vieux-motards-quejamais.blogspot.com

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...aypoints-50860

BIKE-R 17 Jan 2014 06:29
Quote:
Originally Posted by TuruczTibor (Post 450000)
Colebatch I can see from your replies that you have been riding different places in the world. I'm planning a world around trip on motorbike. I have a 1200 GSA. My plan would be from Budapest to Vladivostok through Kazachstan and Mongolia, North America then go to South America then over to Australia then Africa-India and back to Hungary. Based on your experience should I keep my 1200 GSA for this trip or should I change it to a 650 GS. The reason I'm asking is because the majority of this trip will be either on paved road or on hard surface. You made me concerned regarding Mongolia and I've read some stories about South America also. I will camp wherever I can, so I think I will be packed. I think I will have and additional 70 Kg-s of staff. The trip will start in 2015 so I still have time. I really like the comfort of the 1200 gsa, but based on your expertise whish bike would you recommend?
I appreciate your help.

Thanks
Choose a 650, decrease your staff under 30 kgs and you will enjoy everything :)

I recommend a G650 (X Challenge) or DRZ-400S.

Lonerider 30 May 2014 07:19
I am pretty much looking at entering Kazakhstan at the border near Ozinki and then staying in the north and leaving at the Shemonaikha/Zmeinogorsk border to head off to Mongolia
Can any one give me a rough guesstimate on how long it will take me to transit Kazakhstan on that route, as I will be leaving he UK with the Kazakhstan and Mongolia visas and only have about 25/28 days to get through Kazakhstan?
Thanks :D

David 65 22 May 2015 11:20
Rode Astrakhan to cross into Kazakhstan, Ponton Bridge 50r. Ferry free and more fun. Stayed at Riverside Inn/hotel in Atyrau. If you book inadvance it's $32 a night. Secure parking and ex pats in Bar.
Atyrau to Aqtobe starts ok, then 200 km of no road. Returning to bad roads. I did it ok in 12 hrs on a CRF250L. Fell off in some soft wet sand. It's been raining a lot.


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