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the quoted article only refers to "entry and exit tofrom the temporarily occupied territory", which means Crimea and Donbass area. Any other crossings are still fine. |
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https://www.tourister.ru/world/asia/...blications/409 Here is another site which says there is a ferry, but I'm not sure it is current: https://xn----ttbgfegd2g.xn--p1ai/pa...topol-turciya/ There is a phone number there, I will try to call this week to find out. Quote:
https://dpsu.gov.ua/en/on-the-admini...of-the-crimea/ [EDIT] the link in one of the posts above seems to make clear that foreigners cannot leave/enter Ukraine from Crimea. In any event, I've not seen anyone post here saying that they have actually crossed, although I might have missed something. Pls post if you find out more. |
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********** "For foreigners and stateless persons entry and exit tofrom the temporarily occupied territory may be done only through “entry-exit” control points with passport or special permit. Foreigners and stateless persons who arrived to the “entry-exit” control points from the temporarily occupied territory without permission, are not allowed to entry Ukraine and in the shortest time they will be returned to the temporarily occupied territory from which they came, or to the state that issued the passport. They dwell at the “entry-exit” control point up to their return, if they can not be immediately returned. Stamp of the prohibition to entry Ukraine for 3 years is put in passport document of such foreigners and stateless persons. " ********** The translation doesn't appear to be very good, but the text appears to say that anyone with a passport can enter or leave Crimea through a control point. But anyone arriving at such a control point from Crimea without "permission" will be refused entry into Ukraine and have their passport stamped with a prohibition on entering Ukraine for three years. Technically it doesn't say that you can't enter Crimea from Ukraine without permission, so perhaps that is possible. I don't see anything about leaving and entering through the same control point? |
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@ motoreiter.
thank you very much for all the info. I did not have the time to do more research yet. + so it seems the ferry is not operating anymore .... :( + so if I would try to cross from Crimea to Ukraine, I could be sent back with a stamp in my passport not being allowed into Ukraine for three years ..... this would mean I would have to ride up North in Russia to Lithuania before turning West. +do you know if I can sell the bike and fly out ... and return to Russia? As I said, I did this in 2003, but times have changed so anyway to legally sell/give away the bike? We are only in February, so there still is a lot of time before I start and a lot of things can change until August. Spasiva bolshoi paca mika |
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I called the number for the ferry in the webpage linked above...no answer. There are posts on that same page saying that the ferry service closed in March 2017, and that no one has been able to get through on the phone number since 2017 either.
So the ferry situation does not sound promising... I'm not willing to backtrack to Crimea from Kerch (have already been there twice), so it looks like my route between Germany and Georgia will be either via Kharkov or via one of the ferries from Ukraine/Bulgaria to Georgia. Oh well... |
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@ motoreiter. Thank you very much for trying to phone the ferry company. So no ferries. Good to know so early in the planing. Maybe I will try to find a cargo boat going to Rumania or Bulgaria ... but I remember Russian ports not being easy. So lets see ... Quote:
So, it looks like I will just buy a visa for Belorussia again, I recall spending around 100 Euros in 2015 for it. This will make the return faster/easier if I am refused entry into Ukraine. Selling the bike. Yep, Georgia would be a good place to sell, but it is not on my route for this journey. Will ask some Russian friends about it, maybe they know a way. Thanks motoreiter for the imput, very welcome. @ AnTyx. Thank you for your speculation. To no use for me, but maybe others are scared now to try. Quote:
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It is a hassle to leave a bike in Russia when you have to deal with customs. When you don't do that the proper way, you will be refused to enter after your TIP is expired. I know people who have been returned on the border for this |
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You can request extension; the person you left the bike with has to go to customs with documents and notarized letter explaining why you cannot take bike out of the country in allocated time (family circumstances, etc) or take bike and have it impound at location. |
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If you do try to enter Ukraine from Crimea, please let us know here how it goes, would be interesting to have a first-hand account... |
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