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Knight of the Holy Graal 29 Jun 2010 14:01

Azerbaijan by motorcycle
 
On July 31, I and my girlfriend will leave Italy bound to Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan, completely overland.

We'll enter Azerbaijan here

Bing Maps

(main road from Tbilisi to Baku).

Does anybody know if this border station is open 24 hours? I e-mailed the Azeri Ministry of Tourism already one month ago but received zero replies (as I expected).

Second thing: what are your experiences with the Azeri traffic Police? I keep on reading stories of checkpoints with bribe demands, but a friend of mine that rode the area last year had no problems with uniformed officers.
I wonder if it will possible to ride Tbilisi to Baku in one full day: I know that somebody did it successfully, but if Police will pull us over too many times, I'm afraid we will not make it before sunset and I really don't wanna ride at night, also because I don't know the road conditions on that stretch for a big touring motorcycle like mine.

Thanks to everybody.

khpostma 30 Jun 2010 05:40

we rode for 2 days thru Azer and had zero problems, FWIW. The only unexpected thing was the 72 hour limit for the bike.

KP

Knight of the Holy Graal 30 Jun 2010 06:05

I knew about the 72 hours limit, also my friend has been told the same thing, last year at GE-AZ border station.

This is why my Azerbaijan experience can only be Tbilisi-Baku-Qobustan petroglyphs-Tbilisi in 3 days.

Many thanks for your message! This is good news.

rtwdoug 1 Jul 2010 10:25

Im also leaving end of july for that area. I'm in BG now.
I didnt know about the 72 hour limit, its a good thing to know.
If you see a longhaired guy on an old black harley, that'll be me!

Doug

Knight of the Holy Graal 1 Jul 2010 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwdoug (Post 295120)
Im also leaving end of july for that area. I'm in BG now.
I didnt know about the 72 hour limit, its a good thing to know.
If you see a longhaired guy on an old black harley, that'll be me!

Doug


Hey Doug!

Good to know you are riding the area.
I and my girl will be on a black Harley-Davidson Ultra Classic Electra Glide with Italian license plate starting with letters AB and oval sticker with "I" (Italy) just above it.
But if you are interested in hooking up (if our itineraries will match) drop me a PM and I'll send you our full itinerary day by day + cell phone.

Cheers

Nick

Figtipin 1 Jul 2010 23:15

Azeri Police
 
I had some minor trouble with a couple of Azeri Police check points during a 3 day transit earlier this year.
At one I stopped for directions and was immediately accused of speeding when I clearly hadn't and managed to change the subject by getting out the map and asking the way. After a couple of minutes of smiling and hand shaking I waved goodbye and so got away without a fine.
At another I was shown a computer screen with a photo of me and a speed readout (which may or may not have been exaggerated!) and after some discussion I ended up paying a fine of around 10USD in local currency. The police had initially demanded 40USD so they may have been trying to take their cut.
All part of the fun in the end and it hasn't put me off AZ, I will certainly go back there one day but I won't be stopping near a policeman unless ordered to and I actually will watch my speed a bit more carefully!

Knight of the Holy Graal 2 Jul 2010 08:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figtipin (Post 295258)
I had some minor trouble with a couple of Azeri Police check points during a 3 day transit earlier this year.


Good to know.

Did you ride Tbilisi to Baku on the direct road? How are the conditions of that road? Traffic?

Figtipin 2 Jul 2010 17:33

Baku - Tbilisi road
 
Yes I went on the main roads from Baku to Tbilisi, the road is mostly good tarmac but there are long sections of roadworks in the western half where you must drive along gravel tracks. Those sections were good fun on my XR600, you should be OK with some care on your HD.
I did Baku to Tbilisi in a day fairly easily, including those 2 stops with the Police but not stopping anywhere else for long. It would be nice to have more time as there are archeological sites that you can visit along that route.
The traffic did not seem bad at all in AZ, even in Baku. OK it gets very busy in the Baku morning rush-hour, like any big city in Europe.
The traffic in Georgia however I found to be very different... I felt safer driving in India. Don't be put off though, as except for the driving I enjoyed Georgia.

henryuk 2 Jul 2010 18:56

I got massively lost in Tiblisi, all the road signs are in arabic. Baku is ace if you find the right people, had some minor problems in a smaller town where no-one would take a tourist as a paying guest (even hotels), and I was massively knackered.

You might want to check out the situation with having armenian passport stamps. The Azeris hate the Armenians with a passion, talking to the locals while I was there some of them even started crying recounting the killings of Azeris in Yerevan. Interestingly Armenians I spoke to in Turkmenistan were pretty upset about the killing of Armenians in Baku and I never found out which happened first.

I loved Georgia and Azerbaijan - it was the first part of my first trip when everyone I rode passed stopped and waved, and everywhere I stopped I got tea.

rtwdoug 2 Jul 2010 21:24

I have heard something about problems with armenia & azerbi, can you pass from one to the other? or do you have to go back thru georgia?

I was thinking of going Turkey-Geo-Azer-Armenia-Turkey

thanks for the info on the road to Baku, 72 hours will be tight to get there & back on my bike, but I'd really like to reach the caspian sea

Thanks, Doug

henryuk 3 Jul 2010 08:52

What I was told in AZ was that they wouldn't let you in with an armenian visa is your passport, you might be able to get it put in on a staple so you can tear it out. Going from Armenia to Az directly was not possible in '07 but it might have changed.

I di Tiblisi to Baku in 2 days no problems. Look out for the soldiers 'sense of humour' at the Georgian border. They sent me through a door with the bike, when I rode in it was a room full of people having their bags checked, not vehicle suitable at all. I turned round and the soldier who directed me was pissing himself laughing. The 'helpers' at the border are ace but will ask for payment at the end. The border from Turkey into Georgia has a massive line of lorries waiting most of the time, just ride straight past them all.

Bobduro 3 Jul 2010 09:42

Armenia-Azerbaijan border
 
Hi guys,

Been following this thread for a few days as we'll be heading that way in the next fortnight. Currently laid up in Istanbul after a cab decided to do a u-turn and knocked my wife off her bike. She's ok but it's 2 weeks later and only now are we thinking she might be able to walk in the next few days!!

To RTW Doug, from what we've gathered during our time here the border between Azer and Armenia is closed so you'll need to go via georgia - they really don't like each other. Some guys we met here who left a couple of weeks ago said they were pressed for bribes alot in Azer mostly by border/custom officials - at the port in Baku and when entering Azer they wanted them to pay 'tax' for the spare tyres they were carrying.

But generally, as described above they said they met lovely people - just a shame they only had 72 hours in the country! They're now in Turkmenistan and have reported the usual - being asked for bribes by the ferry ticket office for the priviledge of buying a ticket, horrendous crossing of the Caspian and almost laughable taxes and fees on the Turkmen side!

Fun and games!....

rtwdoug 3 Jul 2010 10:18

Thanks Bob,
I guess I'll visit georgia twice! Not too bad tho, as I hear good things about it.

Best wishes to your wife, I hope she is ok soon!

In the off chance your still in Istanbul in a few weeks, & I can bring you anything from BG, let me know. Since its EU now, I can get stuff here from england or wherever pretty fast
(Medicine, medical supplies, etc) as I dont know how good the stuff is, there in Turkey.

In fact, Grant is coming here for out HU meet next week, so he may be able to help out with stuff from London

Doug

henryuk 3 Jul 2010 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobduro (Post 295432)
Hi guys,
horrendous crossing of the Caspian and almost laughable taxes and fees on the Turkmen side!

Fun and games!....

There are a fair few taxes on the Turkmen side but one of the ones is about 75 dollars to cover the petrol you will buy in the country. TK is the only place that does this, but when you weigh it against 7 cents a litre fuel it's a good deal.

Never had any problems with people asking for bribes in AZ, the closest I got was being force fed vodka at a Petrol station because it was a cops birthday! And one big fat guy propositioned me with the phrase 'hey you, how much, jiggy-jiggy', so look out for that!

dnicoletti 7 Jul 2010 18:24

hi there,
we're currently in tbilisi. tomorrow we'll leave towards baku, crossing the krasni most border post. we'll keep you upgraded on what about. what is the 72 hours rule 4 motorbike? nobody at the azeri embassy in rome did mention it.

p.s. to knight of the holy graal: nicola, i'm on my way with my dyna. i did the tbilisi-baku route on 2002 in one day (corrupted policemen stops included) so,
no worry, ride awake and safe!

rtwdoug 7 Jul 2010 19:31

Hey Nicoletti
I will look forward to any updates on the road, & any weird things that arise. Are you taking the ferry out of Azer? or returning?

Thanks, Doug

Knight of the Holy Graal 8 Jul 2010 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnicoletti (Post 296057)
hi there,
we're currently in tbilisi. tomorrow we'll leave towards baku, crossing the krasni most border post. we'll keep you upgraded on what about. what is the 72 hours rule 4 motorbike? nobody at the azeri embassy in rome did mention it.

p.s. to knight of the holy graal: nicola, i'm on my way with my dyna. i did the tbilisi-baku route on 2002 in one day (corrupted policemen stops included) so,
no worry, ride awake and safe!


Hey, Donato, nice to read you again also here!

Well, you must know that according to what I found on this board and on the other Italian one we are members of, motorbikes can remain within Azerbaijan borders only 72 hours maximum, even though you have a 30-day valid VISA (that still remains valid for you).
You can contact Momi20 on the other board for better explanations, because this happened to him also: look at post #34 here Suzuki DR 350: Balcani-Turc.Georgia-Azerb.Turkm.Uzb.Kaz.Russia-Ukr.Rom.Ungh.

Your VISA and, let's say, "your motorcycle's VISA" are two different things to Azeri border officers... at least at border station of Krasni Most (I read that at Lagodekhi border station they have a different "opinion" and let you in with less restrictions).
Safe trip, bro!

rtwdoug 8 Jul 2010 08:59

Just wondering, but can you go to the border post at the port in Baku & get another 3 days?
where is the Lagodekhi border at? what do they do differently?

Thanks, Doug

Knight of the Holy Graal 8 Jul 2010 09:30

Lagodekhi border is this Bing Maps
I read somewhere (maybe just here on the HUBB) that Azeri officers have allowed a 10-day period in AZ to somebody but I don't think you can take it 100% as granted for anybody showing up there (Asian rules...).

Actually, I don't know if it's possible to extend the 3-day vehicle allowance at port in Baku, but to tell you the truth I never read about this possibility anywhere, Doug.

rtwdoug 8 Jul 2010 10:32

hmmmm
I wonder what the road is like Tlibisi-Lagodekhi-baku?
then return to geo the more direct route from Baku
that would prevent having to backtrack on the same road, and a possiblity of a longer stay than 72 hours. If the border guys are willing.
At worst, theres still the 72 hour transit.

strange, that one border would let the bike stay longer than the other?

Doug

Knight of the Holy Graal 8 Jul 2010 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtwdoug (Post 296177)

strange, that one border would let the bike stay longer than the other?


Welcome to Asia, my friend! :biggrin3:

dnicoletti 9 Jul 2010 21:41

hi nicola, hi doug, hi there,
i went to the port here in baku this morning: custom officiers confirm me the 72 hours rule within you must to get the bike cleared. this should sounds good to me and my travel mate as we planning to leave sunday morning by ferry to turkmenistan. we'll enter the custom at 10.00 a.m. just one hour the 72 h. rule exprit (when you get in azerbaijan doesn't matter wich border) they specify the hour of entry: the 3 days rule will start at that time. but have not any idea if is it possible to extend this time at the port itself. they also told me in case the ferry should be leave with delay or at worst on monday to get in the custom anyway sunday morning at 10 a.m. this should mean (i think) no extension can be obtained...
i'll be more detailed when on the clearance process on sunday.
keep fingers crossed guys.

p.s. the ferry ticket baku-turkmenbashi it costs 200$ for one person & one bike.

Knight of the Holy Graal 10 Jul 2010 08:08

Hello, Donato.

Thanks for all the precious infos you're giving us.

May your trip proceed in the best and safest way possible.

khpostma 11 Jul 2010 13:38

Keep in mind that the 72 hour rule applies to your bike only. You can check the bike in at the customs office at the ferry, leave it there and spend some time in Baku. Baku actually was a very pleasant surprise for us. Well worth spending a day or two and do some relaxing. You may have to wait that long anyway waiting for the ferry. I would not wait until the last hour to check it in, who knows what you will run into and I imagine then there will be bureaucratic hell awaiting you when you are a few minutes too late. From what I remember check in for the biek took an hour or two when they felt like working on it. The customs office is all the way at the end at the left of alley way to the ferry.

KP

rtwdoug 11 Jul 2010 14:39

Hi KP
thanks for the info, but Graal & I arent leaving thru the port, were just goin in & comin out. I'd like to see Baku & get to the Caspian, but with only 3 days, I dunno if its feasible on my bike. I may just go in thru the northern border crossing from GEO, & if I cant beg/buy/steal a longer visa for the bike, then I may just do a loop & come out the southern border., of course alot depends on oad conditions, if the road is ok, I'll try for Baku.
If not, then I will get a short tour & wont have to backtrack as much

Doug

Bobduro 11 Jul 2010 15:06

Thanks for the offer doug! That's very kind. I think we'll be ok as she's broken the back of it, so to speak. We're still trying (and failing) to get our heads round the Turkish legal system. Nobody here seems to know what to do to, and we want to be able to leave Istanbul when she's up and running safe in the knowledge that it's all being dealt with but at the moment there seems to be some confusion as to how to continue despite the police already saying the cab driver was 100% at fault!

All very frustrating! Sorry, I'm way off topic!...

Bobduro 24 Jul 2010 11:57

Azerbaijan update
 
Hi guys,

Just thought I'd give an update as we're now in Baku. Georgia was lovely, and Tbilisi is a nice town, but as others have said the driving is crazy!

We crossed the border into Azerbaijan having headed south from Tbilisi and passing the town of Rutavi. There's a nice shiny new border post being built but for now you get directed down a steep narrow dirt track to a compound with a few huts. It took us 3 hours to get through, and they officials were pretty miserable and moody right up until we left when they demanded a wheelie!

We were warned very clearly that failure to get our bikes out of the country within 72 hours was a big problem, and would come with a $2000 fine per bike! We paid $30 per bike plus $10 each for various forms - no idea what they are as only in Azeri!

The road from the border to Baku is pretty good bar a 10km section of road works. Our biggest problem was definitely with the police. We came across check points every 40kms or so and more often than not were pulled over. On a couple of occasions I was taken aside into the office where I was asked aggressively for $200 to proceed. I found that claiming that I didn't understand what they were talking about and then rabbiting on at them in English alot and then ultimately, when the policeman was shouting and banging the table, just saying 'no' did the trick. They tended to decide it wasn't going to happen and then would smile as if to say 'well played' and then let us go - again not before demanding a wheelie!!

Also got the same treatment whislt we were at the side of the road chatting to some french cyclists. A police car pulled up, made me sit in the car and spent ages telling me a form was missing (it blatently doesn't exist!), before changing his tack and claiming we'd been speeding - despite the fact we were sat at the side of the road. Same treatment, same result!

We've not had to pay a single bribe to the police but have been pulled over 8 times in less than a day! Locals told us that if you pay a bribe to one it often gets relayed down to his mates further along the road.

Those delays meant we didn't get to the Turkmen Embassy in Baku before it closed for the weekend, our 72 hours are up on sunday afternoon so will be parking up in the customs area and then getting our visas on monday.

All in all, we've found that Azeri people to be great and super friendy, and Baku is quite the cosmopolitan town. Just a shame the police are so utterly corrupt!

rtwdoug 24 Jul 2010 12:34

Hey Bob
glad you made it, & thanks for the info. Sounds like the police there are more fun than in Ukraine!

I had misread about getting an azeri visa, seems you can get one at the airport when landing, but not at a land border.

So I will try to get one in Tlibisi. Or I could just fly in n out of azeri, then cross the border with the bike. but that probably aint cheap!

I dont HAVE to go to Azeri, just wanted to see it.

Im sure I'd have as much fun spending more time in georgia.

Doug

Samy 24 Jul 2010 22:20

Border is correct.

Try to keep smiling when handing 20-50 usd bribe to traffic policemen in Azerbaijan :) Sure you will see this scene quite often... :) :oops2:

Samy 24 Jul 2010 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by henryuk (Post 295370)
I got massively lost in Tiblisi, all the road signs are in arabic. Baku is ace if you find the right people, had some minor problems in a smaller town where no-one would take a tourist as a paying guest (even hotels), and I was massively knackered.

You might want to check out the situation with having armenian passport stamps. The Azeris hate the Armenians with a passion, talking to the locals while I was there some of them even started crying recounting the killings of Azeris in Yerevan. Interestingly Armenians I spoke to in Turkmenistan were pretty upset about the killing of Armenians in Baku and I never found out which happened first.

I loved Georgia and Azerbaijan - it was the first part of my first trip when everyone I rode passed stopped and waved, and everywhere I stopped I got tea.


You mean GEORGIAN :)

rtwdoug 24 Jul 2010 22:33

they will be SOL with me. I learned from Ukrainian police.
I'll just waste their time til they tell me to take off, so they can get to YOU :D

Doug




Quote:

Originally Posted by Samy (Post 298534)
Border is correct.

Try to keep smiling when handing 20-50 usd bribe to traffic policemen in Azerbaijan :) Sure you will see this scene quite often... :) :oops2:


Bobduro 25 Jul 2010 18:34

Finding the customs and tickey office in Baku
 
Hi Guys,

We've just dropped our bikes off in customs down at the port in Baku as our 72 hours are up later this afternoon and we don't get our Turkmen visa til the morning.
A few people have tried to write instructions on how to find the customs area as it's not well signed (ie. it's not signed at all!) so I thought I might try and upload a couple of photos of what you're looking for once you get down to the Bulvar (the promenade on the sea front), those with SatNav 'might' be ok, but then again maybe not, but those of us replying on good old fashioned maps it's a pain in the ass to find. So...

Once you've hit the sea front turn left and head towards Port Baku, you'll ride over a couple of rail lines that will look like they're no longer in use, but they are! If you've crossed these you're really close and you should see the small unmarked entrance on the right

Once you've made the turn (try not to pass it as it's a one way system) follow the alley and on the right you should see the 'ticket office' door on your right with 'kassa' written above it in very faded paint.

The customs area is down at the very end of the alley so whether you're ready to board or just having to leave your vehicle there, here's where you want to be.

Hope that's of help to someone. Just got to pray that the bike's still there in the morning!.....

Knight of the Holy Graal 27 Aug 2010 10:57

Hello you all!

I and my girlfriend have returned back to Italy from Georgia and Armenia some days ago... 10,055 km (about 6300 miles) in about 21 days, our motorcycle life's record!
It was a fantastic trip: the scenery was great, people were super-super-friendly and helpful (especially when we got stuck in the mud at sunset in north-eastern Turkey) and food tasted very good.

We did not make it in entering Azerbaijan at Krasny Most border line: after 1 and 1/2 hours in line, the Azeri officers told us that even though our visas were ok, we could not enter the Country if we did not leave a deposit of USD 1520 refundable at exit.
I told them that the Tourism Office in Baku made me sure that there was no need of a deposit in case we remained in Azerbaijan within the famous 72 hours but they did not care and told us quite rudely that if we wanted to go back to Georgia we were free to do it . And we did it, cause nobody forces us to visit Azerbaiajan.
So, we used the three days we had to spend in Azerbaijan going to Kazbegi in the north on the Georgian Military Road that put us in the middle of stunning sceneries and great experiences.
Armenia was also a nice surprise, with its monasteries set in great landscapes.
Turkey was the same fantastic Country full of fantastic people I visited already way back in 2008.

I also thank Rtwdoug of the HUBB for the wonderful three days we spent together riding in Georgia and Armenia, really a perfect travel mate that I and my girl really hope to meet again.


Georgia and Armenia: a big plus for the sceneries and for the people (FANTASTIC folks), but a big minus for the lack of road signs and for the road conditions (especially in Armenia, but we rode very bad roads also in Georgia and Turkey).
Just to give you an idea, this YouTube - Offroad harley shovelhead in Georgia (the one in Asia) is a video shot by my girlfriend that was riding pillion, showing Doug and us on a Georgian gravel road alongside the border with Azerbaijan, a road that we took by mistake.

Azerbaijan: a big minus for the customs officers (really not a pleasant experience), but the Azeri people we met in line were veeery friendly and kind.

Our Harley has reported some damage due to the road conditions in eastern Turkey, Georgia and Armenia, but took us home with no problems and this is the most important thing.


Georgia and Armenia are two Countries that I suggest to visit, they can offer much to everybody.

I will post a small report and pics as soon as possible.

damon 4 Oct 2010 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight of the Holy Graal (Post 303056)
We did not make it in entering Azerbaijan at Krasny Most border line: after 1 and 1/2 hours in line, the Azeri officers told us that even though our visas were ok, we could not enter the Country if we did not leave a deposit of USD 1520 refundable at exit...
I told them that the Tourism Office in Baku made me sure that there was no need of a deposit in case we remained in Azerbaijan within the famous 72 hours but they did not care and told us quite rudely that if we wanted to go back to Georgia we were free to do it . And we did it, cause nobody forces us to visit Azerbaiajan.
So, we used the three days we had to spend in Azerbaijan going to Kazbegi in the north on the Georgian Military Road that put us in the middle of stunning sceneries and great experiences.

Good info, thanks.: )I started to gather information for Armenia, Georgia and Azerbajan but as I see Azerbajdjan is not easy to enter. And what about this Georgian Military road? I couldn't find more info about it so far... Do you have some ride report from this adventure?

Knight of the Holy Graal 6 Oct 2010 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by damon (Post 307804)
Good info, thanks.: )I started to gather information for Armenia, Georgia and Azerbajan but as I see Azerbajdjan is not easy to enter. And what about this Georgian Military road? I couldn't find more info about it so far... Do you have some ride report from this adventure?

Hey, Damon!
Well, I can tell you that the Georgian Military Road was the highlight of our trip.
In order to get it, you must take the connection to "Stepantsminda" on the highway Gori-Tbilisi.

The first km are quite ordinary, but as the road begins to climb on the mountains, the landscape becomes stunning!!
The first thing not to be missed is the Ananuri fortress, set on top of a hill with an outstanding view of the green waters of the below-standing lake.
The road conditions on the entire road from Tbilisi to Kazbegi (the old name of Stepantsminda) are OK, except for a 12.5-km gravel part with potholes (not deep, anyway) that you'll find between Gudauri and Kobi. In Kobi, it becomes asphalted again up to Kazbegi.
I don't know what motorcycle you ride, but I rode the gravel part on my big Harley-Davidson Electra Glide with my girlfriend as pillion and our luggage, so if we made it OK, it means there's no problem for any motorcycle!

I don't know how big is your gas tank: in case, just gas up in Tbilisi, because there's a stretch of about 60 km with NO gas stations (there's a couple of them just before Kazbegi at the end of the Georgian Military Road, but not before for about those 60 km.).

Kazbegi is full of restaurants with own bar, hotels and B&B, also Gudauri has some hotels but no "official" accomodation between the two towns.

When in Kazbegi, don't miss the tour to Tsminda Sameba (fantastic monastry with mount Kazbegi behind) and a visit to a monastry under construction that you'll run across on the gravel road to the Russian border.
The monk that is the boss of the construction works is a wonderful person and speaks a fluent English, he'll lead you to a visit to the monastry to let you see how works proceed. I and my girl had a fantastic half an hour with him, this "guided" tour was a great experience. :thumbup1:

In case of emergency, there's small Police stations in Gudauri and Kobi (I don't remember the other villages but for sure there's some).

Just ask if you want to know something more.

Greetz,
Nick from north Italy

stephen.stallebrass 30 Oct 2011 22:02

Hi all:

Was wondering if you can get a transit visa in Baku for Azerbaijan? Will be heading west from Turkmenistan via the ferry. Or will I need to get the transit visa from a Consulate before getting on the ferry?

Steve

wanderer78 31 Oct 2011 17:49

Steve, you can't get a visa on arrival.
At least not when you arrive by sea (you can at the airport I believe).

-Wanderer

Samy 1 Nov 2011 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by khpostma (Post 294913)
we rode for 2 days thru Azer and had zero problems, FWIW. The only unexpected thing was the 72 hour limit for the bike.

KP

Can someone explain about this 72 hour limit please ?

What is that exactly ?

Thanks

shu... 1 Nov 2011 18:24

The 72 hour limit to which KP refers was for the importation of the vehicle, even though our passport visas were good for 30 days. The limit for the bikes was determined in a rather arbitrary manner at the Georgia-Azer border. They asked where we were going, we replied that we were heading eventually for Baku to catch the ferry.

So the border official decided that we were not really tourists in Azer, and declared us to be 'in transit'. We, personally, could be in Azerbaijan for 30 days but the motos had to be in the customs lot at the ferry terminal within 72 hours. No amount of talk could change their minds.

.........shu

stephen.stallebrass 1 Nov 2011 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderer78 (Post 354311)
Steve, you can't get a visa on arrival.
At least not when you arrive by sea (you can at the airport I believe).

-Wanderer

That's what I've learnt... No longer at airport either. They also don't do a transit visa anymore.

nth-sieh928 5 Jan 2018 09:04

Hi mate - planning on going to Azerbaijan this summer on bike, from Georgia. Any chance you have got some information on whether or not this 72 hour rule is still in effect? Been reading on caravanistan as well, and there is a debate raging on about it....

Seems that 72 hour rule is off, but required for a big fat deposit on the border? Anyone know if this is verifiable?

klausmong1 5 Jan 2018 10:20

Did Aserbaidschan this year.

very easy.

Evisa within 4 days online.
At the border they get your bike to your name in the computer and you can stay as long as your visa is valid.

No police stopping us for bribe.
it was even the other way around, when we asked for a ATM, they showed us one and waited at our bikes that nothing happens.

packers 5 Jan 2018 12:39

Entering Azerbaijan from Russia in Summer 2018
 
I'm planning a trip for the summer (June/July) where I plan to ride with a group of friends from the UK through northern Ukraine into Russia and then down through Russia into Azerbaijan, crossing at the Yarag-Kazmalyarski – Samur border crossing.

We only plan to be in Azerbaijan briefly- just over 2 days (ride down to Baku, then up to Georgia leaving at the Balakan-Matsimi border crossing) so we are within the 72 hour transit visa time.

What can I expect at the border? The bikes we will be riding (there are four of us) will include a couple of R1100GS, an R1150GS and a modern triumph; not sure if it makes any difference how old the vehicles are.

Has anyone passed the border in from Russia in the last year or so?

Thank you!

lbendel 25 Jan 2018 15:43

Euro 3
 
My understanding of the Azerbaijan customs law is that you can import (temporarily or other) a vehicle only if it's Euro 3 or higher. For cars that means 2001 or newer and for bikes 2006 or newer. Indeed I had a friend touring Azerbaijan for a couple weeks in 2017 without any problem, but he was driving a euro-5 camper. Any older vehicle is allowed to stay in transit only for 72h.

This said, a customs officer is allowed to bully you for no reason at all, no matter what the law says. :rain:

Laurent

eurasiaoverland 25 Jan 2018 22:17

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Originally Posted by packers (Post 576424)
I'm planning a trip for the summer (June/July) where I plan to ride with a group of friends from the UK through northern Ukraine into Russia and then down through Russia into Azerbaijan, crossing at the Yarag-Kazmalyarski – Samur border crossing.

We only plan to be in Azerbaijan briefly- just over 2 days (ride down to Baku, then up to Georgia leaving at the Balakan-Matsimi border crossing) so we are within the 72 hour transit visa time.

What can I expect at the border? The bikes we will be riding (there are four of us) will include a couple of R1100GS, an R1150GS and a modern triumph; not sure if it makes any difference how old the vehicles are.

Has anyone passed the border in from Russia in the last year or so?

Thank you!

Not quite sure what you're asking after here.

There is some confusion over who qualifies for the 72 hour rule and who doesn't. Personally I think it has now been scrapped, but I am not certain.

But you say you're only staying there for 2 days, so it doesn't really matter to you.

Yes, I have crossed the Samur - Yarag-Kazmalyar border crossing, shortly after it opened to 'foreigners' in 2015.

What to expect there..? They will check your passport and vehicle documents, check your luggage and let you through, like any other border. Why would it be different?

Make sure you check out Derbent on the way down there, one of the coolest cities in Russia. The mountains above are even more interesting; have a look here: https://eurasiaoverland.com/2010/06/03/20ii/

Hope this helps

EO

patuszak 25 Mar 2018 18:11

OK, lbendel has explained in a very clear way what's going on with the 72-hours limit.

So what do you guys advise if my bike is not Euro 3? Enter and pay some fine at the exit border? Do you know how much it is? (I've read contradictory reports, the amount of the fine varied from 10$-40$).

I'm going to Azerbaijan this summer so the confirmed information is highly appreciated. Thank you in advance!

klausmong1 25 Mar 2018 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbendel (Post 577541)
My understanding of the Azerbaijan customs law is that you can import (temporarily or other) a vehicle only if it's Euro 3 or higher. For cars that means 2001 or newer and for bikes 2006 or newer. Indeed I had a friend touring Azerbaijan for a couple weeks in 2017 without any problem, but he was driving a euro-5 camper. Any older vehicle is allowed to stay in transit only for 72h.

This said, a customs officer is allowed to bully you for no reason at all, no matter what the law says. :rain:

Laurent

As I wrote before, I did it in 2017 from Iran.

And I had an old 1991 Honda transalp with no Euro 3 or similar.

No problem to get into Aserbaidschan without any restrictions.

The import was valid the same as my visa, which i got online as an evisa for 30 days.

patuszak 26 Mar 2018 08:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by klausmong1 (Post 581025)
As I wrote before, I did it in 2017 from Iran.

And I had an old 1991 Honda transalp with no Euro 3 or similar.

No problem to get into Aserbaidschan without any restrictions.

The import was valid the same as my visa, which i got online as an evisa for 30 days.

You gave me and my BMW F650 GS 2002 hope. Thanks a lot!:biggrin:

Could you please share the information which borders you have crossed? (cities/countries)

klausmong1 26 Mar 2018 11:15

In my signature you have my website, ok it is in german, but you find my route of 2017 and a lot of information, use google translator.

I went from Iran to Azerbaidschan at the Astara border crossing.

patuszak 26 Mar 2018 15:32

Ok, surely I will check it before I go. Thanks again!

pat.deavoll 6 Apr 2018 19:27

Hi

My plan at the moment is to go Turkey-Georgia-Armenia- Iran- Azerbaijan- and across the Caspian Sea to Kazak and into Uzbek.

A few queries I wonder if anyone can help me with:

1) Will i get into Azerbaijan with an Armenian visa stamped in my passport?

2) Can anyone explain the 72 hour transit for Azer? How does that work with catching the ferry when you might be waiting for a few days?

3) I am unable to get a Turkmenistan visa from anywhere! Has anyone managed to get one in either Istanbul or Ankara? My original plan was to spend 10 days in Iran and go into Turkmenistan on a five day transit visa, to Uzbek.

Any feedback gratefully accepted.

klausmong1 7 Apr 2018 06:11

You will be able to get a visa with Armenia stamped in.
I also hat Armenia in my passport, no problems.

Only you will be refused if they see that you have been in the abandoned Azerbaidschan regions in Armenia like Berg Karabach.

If you havessomething where they see you have been there, you will be refused.

And as describe above already, the 72 hours rule is not valid anymore.

get your eVisa and get in as long your evisa is valid.

And even if it would be 72 hours, you can go to the ferry and wait there, when you do the customs right away, you are out of the country, but you can also not go back to Azerbaidschan anymore, you have to wait at the port.

crisidsto 7 Apr 2018 15:07

I don't know if it is still valid or not, but in 2010, I had the 72 hours permit for my bike. I just left it at the customs at Baku port, before the end of the 72 hours, and I, as a person with a valid 30 day visa, have been able to go anywhere in the country as long as my visa was valid.

I departed on the boat after 2 days waiting....

klausmong1 7 Apr 2018 20:47

Since 2017 it is possible to get eVisa.

And as i told before, the 72 hrs rule is not in charge anymore....

things are changing in the countries, so 8 year old hints are usually not valid anymore

mickey76 8 Apr 2018 17:57

visa
 
i got my e-visa for azerbaidjan in 3 days easy and cheap , 30 days !


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