Egypt- no diesel engines allowed?
 

Hi, (entered it in wrong thread b4)
We are trying to organise to ship a diesel landcruiser to Egypt. However one shipping company has sent me a file of requirements that customs need to get the car in... the headings listed ; Documents required, Customs Presccriptions and Remarks.
In the remarks column it said 'NO DIESEL ENGINES ALLOWED" ????!???
Is this correct?

:helpsmilie:

Unless there is an update I am unaware of, diesel engines are not allowed to register in as "Private" cars registered permanently in Egypt.

If you are just passing through, they are allowed.

Yip, info sheet that comes with the Carnet states "Diesel-operated vehicles are allowed to be temporarily imported in Egypt".

So make this and your intention to only have it there temporarily clear to the shipping company.

We had no prob driving in last year & have arranged shipping (containers) for later this year, with our diesel cruisers.
Mind you, arranging the shipping in & back out with the egyptian beauracracy is a nightmare!!!!

Andy

Egypt - no diesels allowed?
 

It's just a bit of typical Egyptian bureacracy. A carnet is a temporary import documentation, so, its temporary. So, why do they say diesels can enter the country on a temporary basis...odd indeed.

We travelled to Luxor setting out from Marseilles with a bunch of vintage and classic cars, the oldest was 1921, and drove the coast road of Libya and then down the Nile, and had no problems. Libya was welcoming. Fuel was available everywhere for both the classics, and the Organisation's Toyota Hi-Luxes which were diesel. Diesel is cheap, and available at every filling station.

....so, no worries.

P.Y.

Diesel engines not allowed
 

yes in fact years ago diesel engines for private cars were not allowed, but that changed many years ago. The same thing was that at that time also Toyota Land Cruisers are not allowed. It is from the same time, may be 20 years or more ago.
So please check with the agent you are dealing with if he is up to standard. In any case it will be hard to get a car shipped in through Alexandria, there are two ports in Alexandria, so find out in which port your car will be shipped two. One is difficuilt the other is worse. So I hope you plan enough time to get your car out. Be also aware how much staff you have in your car. By law only 100kilos of load is free, the rest you will have to pay coustums on. So please check everything before you start off.

I wish you all the luck you can get, and that everything will go smooth
have a nice travel

tango,

We are shipping our cars into Alexandria Old port this month, have you any ideas how long it takes to get the cars out once the ship arrives (container), we dont seem to be able to get much response from the Egyptian agents!!!!!!

Andy

My car is a diesel and I imported it new from Japan permanently without any problem at all.

diesel engine cars
 

ago first for the private cars they are allowed since years to be registered there is no problem, I ve driven several once of them over the years, those informations you have were correct but years away.

For the other questions how much time it take to get the cars out of the port, you will never find a correct answer, nobody could tell.
I know quite a few persons who have done that over the years and you always hear a different story. Please also consider that you have still Ramadan until the 20th of September than 3 days of vacations the feast, where no body will be working.

Under normal conditions you have to calgulate 1 up to 3 days, plenty of stress and some gray hairs and paying always and every where money, sometimes for reasons you would never know.

Please be also aware to have enough Fire extinguisher as those are necessary for registration and they are expensive in the harbour

best regards
Tango

Thanks for the info about the fire extinguishers Tango, we have 3, hopefully that should be enough.

Our cars are not leaving uk till 21st sept, so hopefully all the Ramadam celebrations will be over & done with by the time they arrive!
We did the land crossing from Libya last year, so understand a bit about the Egyptian beauracracy!!!!, Although organising the shipping IN has been a nightmare so far, and we still have to get the cars shipped back out!!!

Actually last night I said 'what the hell, forget the shipping I'll drive there again', but on reflection, I changed my mind and will be shipping, the time 'lost' driving from UK is my problem with work commitments etc.

However, Im sure it will all be put to the back of our minds once its sorted & we are in the desert again

Andy

shipping
 

shipping the car back out of the country is much much easier. I made it twice . ofcourse when you are out in the desert all the problems will be forgotten real soon.
Normally I had a good agent in alexandria, but I don't find the contact right now. whit his employes it is an easy run of an day. With himself with you it takes only hours.
They have an office in alexandria and the head is called (if I recall right Mostafa....) it is better and cheaper to deal directly with him and not with the head office in Cairo as they also make airport clearence.
I'm afrait I couldn't help you with the name of the company nor the full name of the person.
May be some other time when I come across him, I'll post it here. So still other can get the advantage of that
good luck you will need everything...
By the way if you are not happy with your agent, may be you run across a person called Sheikh Ashraf, he has a very good raputation. So if you shift the car back from alexandria he might be of great assistance that what one hears. I had no shipping done with him.

True in Egypt no Diesel
 

Hi
I came a cross your Q, my answer is, in Egypt they don't Use Diesel as we have in Europe, they Use Gasoline, and your car will not be driven in Egypt if it is Diesel ,
however Petrol in Egypt is very cheep you maybe consider petrol car,
I also will be traveling by Car from Europe to Egypt
I will start from London UK to Marseilles than Ferry to Tunisia and drive to Alexandria crossing Liybia, I only now search for the carnet documents

Dear Andy
I also plan to drive From London to Alexandria, could you please tell me about Carnet in Tunisia and Liybia and Egypt, where to get Carnet in borders, as RAC in England asked for allot money to do Carnet for Egypt
also if you know anything about pets, as I would like to take my 2 chocolate Labrador dogs with me in, ferry from France to Tunisia says they have kennels in ferry,
but i'm not sure about Arabic countries in borders will they allowed me or no.
kind regards
Giovanni

Not quite sure what you mean that the car wont be driven in Egypt if its a Diesel???:confused1:

We had no problems last year with our diesels, and are on our way back to Egypt right now, again with diesel Landcruisers:clap:

You need to speak to paul Gowan at the RAC regarding carnets, (lots of info on this site if you search), and dont forget to arrange the visa, guide, policeman accross Libya before you go!

Andy

Giovanni,
No carnet needed for Tunisia, Mandatory guide in Libya will sort Libyan Carnet
Egypt carnet required from RAC, or from motoring organisation from the country in which your car is registered, RAC is 800% vehicle value, although you can get an insurance through them for this (still expensive though).

We tried all sorts of ways to get round this last year, phoning allsorts of countries but no luck (not even ADAC) as they all say that it must be from country of vehicle registration.

We couldnt get Libyan Transit visas either, although I hear that some lucky people have managed, so, budget for a Tourist Visa.

Yes it is a very expensive trip all together ( but at least we are getting 2 uses of our carnets by going back to Eg before they expire)!!
Andy

ps cant help with the pets bit

Errr... wrong.
Diesel is plentiful in Egypt and called "Solar" if you need to ask for it or find out which pump it is. What do you think all the trucks use?

And bear in mind that if you take your diesel LC (or any other car) into Syria, you'll get hit with a US$100 PW Diesel tax.

diesel engine
 

dear all,

for egypt you have to have a valid carnet from the orginial country and you have to make sure that it is written that it is valid for Egypt otherwise there is no way to get into Egypt.
For Libya you can get your Carnet at the border everyone will get that for you will cost around 100euro/car (if you already have a carnet you will safe that)
Tunis no Carnet is needed.
To get a Libya Visa on the Frontier for crossing that will not exsist. You have to contact a Libyen company to write you an invitation and with that and with the necessary papers from the country you can get your visa finally at the frontier
Syria it is right you pay an extra fee for diesel engines around 100Us$ even if you cross the country in 1 day the fee is always the same.
Traveling with animals is very risky you will face plenty of problems crossing each frontier, so please do your self and the animals a favour and leave them this time at home
best regards
and good Travels
Tango

Hmmmmm

I've travelled with my car and my dog since more than 30 years (each year) in countries such Lybia,Egypt,Syria,Algeria,... without any problem.
And I think it's better to cross these kind of border post because they don't like to open the rear door and see my dog lookin at them...
RR.

diesel engines
 

dear roro,

please consider that times have changed 30 years ago is a long time. Since 1 year plenty of things changed. So hear are some facts.
Libya Closed the border to Egypt completely not only for animals but also for humans.
The schools in Egypt were not opened after the summer vacation and are still closed as the people are afraid. The is rubbish lying around in Cairo as the goverment killed all the pigs in town who used to eat plenty of that...

what do you think they will do with your dog...they will welcome him...for sure...

everyone is free and can do what he likes..I yust give you a hint that times changed and that you might have less problems if you travel without...
for sure there is no general rule for that. Some one will pass like always the second one will have major problems

good luck for you all out there
tango

Is that so?
I know there was some confusion last year about the border being closed, but do you have a reference for your information? Or is it just gossip?

I said it was closed that is not the case now. Now as a tourist you can pass, but the egyptains they are not allowed to cross only going to Libya by plane. So the situation now is that the frontier is open again

best regards
tango

so as no egyptains are allowed to cross, what about animals! I ve no informations on that: So if you think of taking your peds with you, you should think twice because I don't know if the animals will be respected more than egyptains!!!

tango