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gvdaa 17 Jan 2006 18:47

Direct route from Nema to Timbouctou
 
Does somebody have details about the direct route from Nema/Oualata to Timbouctou (north of lake Faguibine). Does it mean starting from Nema and driving cross country to Timbouctou? Or is there something of a piste, passing some well known wells along the way?
Thanks,
Gerbert

amagattverde 17 Jan 2006 20:42

Hi

And it´s safe? I think,it isn't. In 2004 some problems with outlaws

Before leaving Nema, ask to the police, but attention to the extortion...

The solution will be to follow Bassikounou, Nampala, Leré, Tombouctou.

More details in:
http://www.mosquitto.ttverde.com/ind...=118&Itemid=25

Amaga

ursula 17 Jan 2006 21:27

hi Gerbert
see also
http://www.desert-info.ch/forum/view...highlight=nema
more infos about wells, pistes and stuff
Ursula

gvdaa 1 Nov 2006 14:28

We made it directly from Nema to Timbouctou, taking the route north of Lac Faguibine. Two weeks ago. It took four days in our two Toyota lanbdcruisers LJ70. Nema, Nbeiket Alhouach, Basriye, Timbouctou. One of the many smuglersroutes in this area, although we did not see any other traffic. The route was a bit disappointing, not very spectacular scenery. And many stories about bandits and Belouar (Algerian leader of GSPC). But we noticed nothing. Entry formalities in Timbouctou, in Nema Police and customs did not want to stamp our passport, so we left without stamps.

boz39 13 Nov 2006 12:57

Direct route from Nema to Timbouctou
 
hi Gerbert,

can you give me details about the direct route from Nema to Timbouctou (north of lake Faguibine) ?

you say it took four days for you, but how km ? do you have wpt ?
do you think it's possible in rain season (by motorcycle) ?

you can join me at boz_39@hotmail.com

Christophe

gvdaa 13 Nov 2006 15:38

I only have the following waypoints:

Achemmim: 16,42 6,57
Nbeiket el Ahouach: 16,53 5,43
Basriye: 17,03 4,50
Well (I do not know the name): 17,13 3,37

It's about 500 km in total. A lot of sand, so almost double gasoil consumption compared to tarred road. I suppose it can be quit muddy in the wet season. The landscape was very green in october, because it rained a lot this year.

boz39 27 Nov 2006 01:01

Thank you for the waypoints.
I saw the track on maps except for the part of the last well to tombouctou.
Maybe we try to pass by Ras el ma and to follow northern bank of the lake.

Christophe

gvdaa 27 Nov 2006 16:10

I think driving directly along the north side of the lake from Ras el Ma to Timbuktu is a good idea. The landscape is more beautifull there, I read in the Lonely Planet. We wanted to do that route, but did not find the right piste near Basriye, and therefore decide to continue north-east.

Jose Brito 28 Nov 2006 14:33

Hi Christophe,

I'm planning also to do Nema-Timbuctu directly in middle January 2007.
We will be a single 4WD with 2 or 4 persons.
When are you planning to go?
If your in a single car and if the timing is OK, maybe we could join for this crossing?


Cheers,
José

kaspars 29 Nov 2006 08:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by José Brito
I'm planning also to do Nema-Timbuctu directly in middle January 2007.
We will be a single 4WD with 2 or 4 persons.
When are you planning to go?
If your in a single car and if the timing is OK, maybe we could join for this crossing?

Cheers,
José

hi Jose,

I am also planing the same route, and also in mid january - 2 persons on a rangerover
May be we can fit together?

Kaspars

Jose Brito 29 Nov 2006 15:53

Hi Kaspars,

Sounds great!

We can arrange for details directly.
Send me an e-mail to: jcbrito ## mail.icav.up.pt
(replace ## by @)


Cheers,
José

ocejon4x4 4 Dec 2006 18:36

Nema Tombuctú
 
Hello. I need to know information of the route between Seal and Tombuctú. We will carry out the journey starting from August 25 2007. Tracks and up-to-date information are welcome. Thank you Luis B. Spain

moro 11 Dec 2006 13:19

I'm planning to do the same route
 
rouglhy the same time (maybe a few days later then Jan 15th). Two people, land rover 2a (not very fast)
cheers
moro slovenia


Quote:

Originally Posted by José Brito
Hi Christophe,

I'm planning also to do Nema-Timbuctu directly in middle January 2007.
We will be a single 4WD with 2 or 4 persons.
When are you planning to go?
If your in a single car and if the timing is OK, maybe we could join for this crossing?


Cheers,
José


Matt Roach 13 Dec 2006 12:51

Hi,

We are doing the Nema Timbuktu route on two bikes (KTM 640s) in late December (hoping to arrive by the 31st Dec). If you are planning on doing this a bit earlier than mid Jan we would welcome the company.

We would also buy you plenty of beers if you could carry our extra fuel!

cheers
Matt

fons 26 Dec 2006 16:29

still places available ?
 
Hi,
I will be in Mauritania around 20th. Jan. Any place available to go to Timbukuto?

email: enyacc at yahoo.com

smokinrider 26 Dec 2006 18:07

ill be in mauri mid late jan, want to get to tombuktu love to hook up with anyone else heading in that direction especially. pm me with dates and locations, im leaving uk tomorow. cheers

Matt Roach 9 Aug 2007 14:37

Does anyone have more detailed points for Nema - Timbuktu?
 
I never ended up doing this piste last year as I headed south instead of east, but plan on heading directly from Nema to Timbuktu (not via Nara) in Jan 08. In addition to the points listed previously on this post, I have the following waypoints:

N16.08.057 W 6.50.200 - between Nema and Bassikouno

N16.00.206 W 5.47.404 - 50km SE of Mali border near Bassikouno

N16.21.917 W4.33.043 - Lerneb

N16.45.636 W 3.00.323 - Timbuktu

Does anyone else have anymore detailed waypoints for this route?

cheers

Jose Brito 20 Aug 2007 12:33

Hi,


Here are some some extra-coordinates that I've collected last Januray.


Cheers,
José


Km N E Description
0 16 36.667 -7 16.763 Exit of Nema. Leave paved road to a fast piste heading south over a reg alternated with sandy areas
21 16 26.800 -7 19.800 Pre-paved road over floodplain
27 16 24.100 -7 20.500 Piste turns E/SE
76 16 16.500 -6 59.100 Bangou village. Piste is now sandier and heads SE
96 16 9.300 -6 52.100 Exit of small village and Kir wells
112 16 4.000 -6 45.700 Exit of Kataouane village
130 16 2.100 -6 36.700 Gneiba el Mazroufa village at right but keep E
143 16 2.400 -6 30.600 Piste progressively harder turns SE. Police checkpoint within 1km
157 15 58.800 -6 24.600 Hard piste
171 15 54.200 -6 18.500 Top of hill. Keep E/SE in sandy piste
194 15 53.700 -6 6.200 Top of hill. Piste still sandy
216 15 51.100 -5 55.400 Exit of Bassikounou. Turn right to firm sandy piste heading SE
237 15 43.300 -5 47.200 Piste sandy but firm heading SE
252 15 37.300 -5 44.200 Exit of Koussana village
266 15 30.700 -5 35.000 Exit of Medala village
284 15 33.100 -5 31.300 Fassale village. If exit formalities from Mauritania were not fulfilled in Nema, there are police and douane checkpoints in the village
296 15 31.360 -5 29.650 Exit of Douamkara village. Piste heads NE over floodplain
305 15 33.030 -5 24.410 Mali border post after Faita village
322 15 35.700 -5 17.300 Alfess well at left
337 15 39.200 -5 10.400 Exit of Boundoubadi village. Hard and fast piste
360 15 43.600 -4 59.000 Small village. Well at left
309 15 42.600 -4 54.600 Lere. Douane and police checkpoint
427 15 44.600 -4 32.200 Passage through dam wall
443 15 46.950 -4 25.320 Passage through dam wall
450 15 48.230 -4 21.980 Passage through dam wall
461 15 50.940 -4 17.530 Passage through dam wall
482 15 54.360 -4 8.380 Passage through dam wall
498 15 55.500 -4 0.000 Exit of Niafunke. Fast piste
509 15 57.700 -3 55.430 Passage through dam wall
543 16 8.000 -3 45.200 After crossing the river turn left at Douane checkpoint and follow pre-paved road
667 16 46.520 -3 0.730 Tombouctou

Jose Brito 20 Aug 2007 12:36

The above coordinates are as follows:

1st column: km
2nd column: latitude degrees
3rd column: latitude minutes
4th column: longitude degress
5th column: longitude minutes
6th column: description of waypoint

Cheers,
José

Matt Roach 20 Aug 2007 17:37

Jose, you are an absolute legend!

If we ever meet on the road, i will definately buy you a few beers!

Two minor questions:

1. I had thought this piste was only about 550 kms - did you take any specific detours to get to 667 kms?
2. I assume there is no fuel on this route - did you see any villages selling any fuel from containers on the piste?

cheers

Jose Brito 21 Aug 2007 15:14

Hi Matt,

1. I had thought this piste was only about 550 kms - did you take any specific detours to get to 667 kms?

At the exit of Nema and around the border of Mauritania-Mali we were trying to find the correct piste. This should represent about 10 km extra (15 km at the most). Don't know about this 117 km diference.....


2. I assume there is no fuel on this route - did you see any villages selling any fuel from containers on the piste?

There is fuel from drums in Bassikonou for sure. After Lere there is fuel in every large village.



If you can came to Mauritania in late October, we could check out that beer!



Cheers,
José

Zoltar14 22 May 2008 21:21

Mapsource says it's 570km, so that is closer to 550.
I noticed two of your waypoints seemed to be off course. That's wp 2 and 3.
Anyway, thanks a milllion for the wps.


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