Definitely!
When travelling in veeery hot weather by car with no AC, my wife and I carry our "sissy summer kit": we spray water all over us and move our Spanish "abanico". It cools you down inmediately, feeling great relief from the heat. In our experience, it works much better if all items are pink...:eek3:

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I would advise against soaking with water at all. More than once I've seen soldiers who have been soaked in water from peoples water bottles, so reasonably warm. On one occasion he went unconscious and started to fit (end of career by the way), almost certainly as a result. On all occasions the soldiers concerned were more poorly than they probably would have otherwise been (compared to others at similar times on the same exercise and in similar weather conditions)

We used to be issued sweat rags. It's a lightweight fabric square, basically a large hanky, that you wrap loosely round your neck and keep wet. Also stops your collar rubbing

Recurring news item
 

Still not a sticky.

Since this thread was started there has been a case of hyperthermia that occured during the making of a documentary TV programme (for the Brits, channel 4's "Walking the Nile").
The events leading up to the event, including the final hours of the life of the deceased, were broadcast as part of the first of the four episodes.

The Adventure Blog: Journalist Dies While Walking The Nile With Levison Wood

As an aside, after the broadcast an amount of shock and horror was expressed from some quarters at being exposed to death on documentary TV, rather than via the more usual, everyday, news outlets.
But, perhaps some people, even just one or two, learnt a thing or two from that extra publicity?

I should perhaps add that soaking will only work well if there is a wind, as when you are in/on a moving vehicle.

Water On Raghead
 

I used to do a fair bit of weekend walking in the Omani Jebels.Even in the winter temps could be over 36Deg and usually 28-32Deg. Used to start at 5-6am and finish by 10-11am when it was to hot to safely do more.I always wore an arab Shamag(raghead) around my head and found that when I started to get really hot a good dousing with water on the head to keep the 'rag' wet really helped. I also always carried an electrolyte drink as well as water.

Once or twice I overdid the exertion and was very debilitated - not recommended!

Recommend the raghead for outdoor use in these kinds of places. People may think you look like a poser but - do they really know?bier

Coincidentally, I intended to mention the ubiquitous shemag in this other thread, and then forgot to do so in my general enthusiasm for silk scarves.
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Thank you for the recommendation. Was in the desert last month near Mhamid, and boy was it hot. I managed to get tubes of them for £2.50 each from wiggle. Bargain. However, I put them in the bike luggage and they turned to powder, the ones stored in my rucksak didn't! Cautionary words, although I could still use the powder, what was left of the tablets didn't want to come out. They did when I smashed them with a tyre lever. :-)

Have had the same prob but powder is powder ;-)
Got 3 tubes to last me this week: warm and getting warmer.
Don't normally come here this early.

Just as another anecdote about the heat:
We recently had a blow out on the very hot Tarmac in Sudan, cruising in our 4x4.

Changing the tyre, getting tools out etc probably took ca. 45 minutes, though we weren't clock watching.

We had to get out again after 5 minutes with the spare tyre to replace the valve: too long waiting to get used.

But, that day, our 2nd in Sudan after the cool mountain temperatures of Ethiopia: we each drank 4.5 litres of water and pee'd TWICE... that's ridiculous!!
I wonder if we were already dehydrated leaving Ethiopia and hadn't noticed.

More importantly here probably is that we are in an aircon 4x4 with little physical activity required, except for that midday tyre.

You can think up the sums yourselves for when you're out in the dunes having a (beached) whale of a time....

keep your fluid and mineral levels up!!! It's terrible to read of such incidents of bikers dying so quickly.

Hearts out to the friend and families.

Pretty hot here in Nouackchott too. Got stuck in gridlock traffic after coming into the city yesterday, well above 40C. Had already been on the bike for 4 hours and expecting to park at hotel, in 30 mins and it took 2.5 more hours. Had to get off the bike at one point and lie on kerb in shade to avoid passing out. Locals offered cold water which I poured on my head and body armour, to get back my senses. Was over 30 mins before I could ride again. Makes you realise how dangerous it could be in this heat stuck in the desert.

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Above 40C you won't notice if your sweating or not because it evaporates so quickly.
Piss straw colour twice a day, minimum.
Caffeine drinks such as coffee or cola will make your pee clearer so may give a false impression of how dry you are
Don't wait to drink until your thirsty, by then you are already well into a fluid deficit. Drink regularly, your not drinking because your thirsty, your drinking to stay alive.
These guys didn't dehydrate and get heat stroke in 40 minutes, they were already into the advanced stages when their friend went for help. This will have been developing for sometime.Look for the early signs such as headache, lack of concentration and irritability.
Be aware that if you've had a close call with heatstroke, your still at risk of going into organ failure for several days, so stay somewhere you can get help if you need it.
when your working hard, digging out etc, strip down to loose light clothing, then put your stuff back on when you need it. It's a fag but you need to try and stay cool.
If your getting a bit desperate, piss on a rag and wrap it around your neck and/or pack it in your groin to aid cooling (if you can piss!!)
Don't start on a deficit (because you've been out on the lash the night before for example)
Drink plenty when you can, i.e when your at a water source, so you have a good positive balance on board when you start. Once away from the source, don't drink large volumes at once as you'll just piss it back out again, little and often.


That's my advice off the top of my head born of 23 years as an Army medic, and seeing plenty of full blown heatstrokes

A similar tragedy to 2012 just happened near El Mhamid.

https://www.bladi.net/chaleur-tue-fr...ra,114518.html

ICYMI, worth scanning the preceding for advice if desert riding in the hotter months.

Holy thread resurrection! Still, 8 years later, it is still valid.:Beach:
Nice one Moggy1968

I don't suppose the autopsy result will ever make it into the headlines but it sounds as though he may have had issues other than just the heat getting to him.

There's a lot of good sense about dehydration and its effects been posted over the life of this thread and its all worth taking on board but in my experience it's often quite hard to recognise it in yourself until it's almost too late. If you're doing something physical you can easily mistake it for exercise fatigue. In a hot climate you often won't get the sweat dripping from everywhere indication as it evaporates so fast.

I think you are right. It's been unusually cold in southern Morocco this last week or two: rain, gales, single-digit temps in the Atlas, and only low 30s around Mhamid.
But as some may know, that sandy start out of Mhamid can be a freak out on a big, heavy moto (and is why the TMT was not routed that way).