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dave beadle 10 Nov 2012 23:20

uae to uk
 
can any one give advice on riding back from uae to uk ?

dave beadle 11 Nov 2012 21:44

My plan is to ship my bike from the UK to Dubai and then ride it back through Iran, Turkey for sure and then take the route has it comes in Europe. I am planning to do this mid February next year. My concerns are visas and paperwork, personal safety - bearing in mind we now don't have Embassy presence?? Any thoughts would be great and appreciated.

Jonnyoneye 11 Nov 2012 22:32

Dave,
I did this trip at the end of March/beginning of April this year. If you want to have a chat please pm me for my telephone number and I'll tell you what I know.
Cheers,
J

dave beadle 12 Nov 2012 20:58

Thanks for your input. I am just picking up on how welcoming you people are in Iran. I'm in the early stages of organising my trip, can you advise on the climate Feb/March and what route would you suggest?

Dubai355 20 Nov 2012 09:49

In Dubai
 
Hi Dave
it’s very popular route to go throw Turkey and Iran :thumbup1:.
anyhow if you need info/details about things in Dubai, am willing to help you.
Regards
Saleh From Dubai :scooter:

pecha72 20 Nov 2012 11:31

Dunno when you planned to reach eastern Turkey, but I do know that it usually has seriously cold winter, so that might be something to remember. Also northwest Iran, and parts of Europe (even in the south), may sometimes have winter weather. But eastern part of Turkey is critical.

dave beadle 21 Nov 2012 22:18

Saleh thanks very much for your note. Do you know what the implications would be for shipping bike into Dubai and exporting to Iran? Do you think there will be any issues with riding through Iran, Iraq, Turkey with a UK registered bike?
Cheers

dave beadle 21 Nov 2012 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by pecha72 (Post 401077)
Dunno when you planned to reach eastern Turkey, but I do know that it usually has seriously cold winter, so that might be something to remember. Also northwest Iran, and parts of Europe (even in the south), may sometimes have winter weather. But eastern part of Turkey is critical.

Pecha thanks for that. The issue I have is that I want to do it at the beginning of the year Feb/March time - good weather through Iran, but appreciate possible climate issues through Turkey. May have to comprise with this colder weather has once through Turkey seems to settle down temperature wise?
Have you any stories to tell ref security riding through Iran/Iraq and Turkey.
Cheers

Dubai355 22 Nov 2012 08:19

From Dubai
 
Hi Dave
no issue and its easy and simply process to enter the bike into UAE, just need your CartNet documents and then you take a ferry to Iran (Bander Abbas) then Turkey. but make sure no snow on the Iran-Turkey border.
riding throw Iraq is not recommender ay all. for your safety and nothing to see there.
Regards
Saleh

pecha72 22 Nov 2012 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave beadle (Post 401310)
Have you any stories to tell ref security riding through Iran/Iraq and Turkey.

We had no problems at all in Iran or Turkey. The people were so warm and friendly it was just incredible.. in Iran, we even got invited to stay with a local family in Esfahan, we just simply met them on the road, and they treated us like old friends. Really an eye-opening experience! Turkey was also just fantastic, though we did not stay there for long (was the end of October, so winter was coming). We did not visit Iraq. It seems like the north is somehow accessible nowadays.

In Iran, some areas east of Bam, and close to the Afghan/Pakistani border were considered a bit suspicious, and I believe they still are. Note, that our trip was +5 years ago, so things could have changed... but if you wanna read, there´s something about our trip in English here:
MOTO1 - Matkalla

Dubai355 6 Dec 2012 06:40

Nice to hear from you
 
thats nice that everything is fine at your end
so, are you crossing over to UAE? and when?
Ride Safe

dave beadle 9 Dec 2012 21:56

Hi Saleh
Just in the early stages of planning. Listening to everyone and checking out climates early part of the year. Now decided to travel back mid March has prior to that it would not be so enjoyable through Turkey and the rest of Europe is only just warming up. I'm in the process of sorting our my Carnet with the RAC in the UK. If you could give me your thoughts on the procedure and potential issues shipping my UK registered bike into the UAE. Would you anticipate any customs issues? I have already sorted a shipping agent who can ship the bike out at a very competitive price.
Saleh your input would be appreciated.
Cheers Dave

Dubai355 10 Dec 2012 07:57

Hi Dave
 
Hi Dave
end of March will be suitable time to depart Europe and the weather in UAE will be suitable as our summer heat will start end of May.

back to your question, will you ship the bike throw air fright or sea fright.
in both situation the custom clearing in the airport is an easy process and its will take a maximum of 2 hours to clear the bike. if its sea fright it will take little more time.

please advice if you need additional information
Regards
Saleh

dave beadle 27 Dec 2012 10:55

Hi Saleh
Hope you are having a good Christmas break. The beginning of the year I am going to firm things up re my trip back to the UK. I was just wondering if you could assist with one or two queries I have. Firstly, am I right in thinking there is only one ferry from Sharjah to Iran and have you any idea whether it can be pre-booked. Does it run all year? Secondly, on arrival in Iran I understand specific insurance to travel in Iran is required - is this possible to pre-book or is it something that you need to get on arrival only. If you had any contacts if pre-booking is available. Finally, I have a route in mind which I am calculating my daily distances with reference to stopping overnight. Have you done this route before and if so, could you recommend a route to me. Would it be possible to have your email address has I have contacts in Dubai and just wondered if you knew of them.
Thanks for your help,
Cheers Dave

Jonnyoneye 27 Dec 2012 12:08

Hi Dave,
Been getting settled in here over the last weeks, so have not paid much attention to the HUBB, or similar sites, but i see that you are getting your plans in place for the trip, so well done with that.
Regarding your questions to Saleh in Dubai, i may be able to add my input to his answers and i have the number of someone in Bannder Abbas who might help with the importation process there, as it is really complicated and nearly no one i found in the offices spoke any English, but this guy does.
Anyway, mail me to my private address and i'll tell you what i can.
Have a good new year celebaration.
Cheers,
J

Dubai355 27 Dec 2012 21:33

Happy new year from Dubai
 
Hi Dave
Regarding your Queries
I will send you the contact of the ferry office in Sharjah and
You must have a bike insurance to enter Iran which you can buy it
On your arrival (can be checked with the book office) I will contact them
On Saturday to have the ferry depart dates
I never been to Iran but based on travelers experiances it's
Better to have an agent to help you otherwise it's will
Take the hole day running between offices. (Johnnyoneye) is 100% right :thumbup1:
I can give you emails address for travelers did Iran route and they can recomanded some great roads and cities to visit (they don't have hubb account)

Please advice if you need any additional help
Happy new year to all
Regards
Saleh from Dubai


Quote:

Originally Posted by dave beadle (Post 405335)
Hi Saleh
Hope you are having a good Christmas break. The beginning of the year I am going to firm things up re my trip back to the UK. I was just wondering if you could assist with one or two queries I have. Firstly, am I right in thinking there is only one ferry from Sharjah to Iran and have you any idea whether it can be pre-booked. Does it run all year? Secondly, on arrival in Iran I understand specific insurance to travel in Iran is required - is this possible to pre-book or is it something that you need to get on arrival only. If you had any contacts if pre-booking is available. Finally, I have a route in mind which I am calculating my daily distances with reference to stopping overnight. Have you done this route before and if so, could you recommend a route to me. Would it be possible to have your email address has I have contacts in Dubai and just wondered if you knew of them.
Thanks for your help,
Cheers Dave


Jonnyoneye 28 Dec 2012 15:04

Strangely enough, i was so relieved to get out of the port of Bander Abbas after all the delays, that i didn't realise that i didn't have insurance, until i was well on the way to Shiraz and i had no idea about how to get any, so i just carried on.
I was stopped in the centre of Shiraz by the Iranain Black Coats, who are apparently a bit feared, but they were very pleasant and after checking the bikes documents like C de P and my passport, waved me on my way, with no mention of insurance.
The same applied in Iraq, with no one asking or offering me it, but the same could not be said when i entered Turkey, where they would not let me leave the border crossing until i had taken out extortionate insurance cover for 15 days, but it was late on a Sunday evening and to be honest, i was just glad to be away from there and back on the road.
Bottom line is, you should legally have it in Iran and probably Iraq, together with the C de P for Iran and obviously a visa for there as well. Turkey you need a visa also, but you buy that at the border, the Iranian one you need to organise well before you travel.
Sharjah ferry details areas follows:
AL HILI MARINE SERVICES LLC
Ground Floor
Al Ikhias Tower
PO Box 27522
Sharjah

Tel: +97165288575
Fax: +97165288574
E-mail: info@alhili.com

Website (Iran): www.valfajr.ir
E-mail (Iran): catamaran@valfajr.ir

Other details at: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ae-ferry-63508

hosseinthebiker 30 Dec 2012 14:47

advices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dave beadle (Post 400130)
I am just picking up on how welcoming you people are in Iran. I'm in the early stages of organising my trip, can you advise on the climate Feb/March and what route would you suggest?

david welcome to iran
in that time of the year weather is getting warmer and totally you will not have a problem with that,except a bit rains in north west
Also dont forget to pick up your carnet its important

In my mind you can follow this route in iran
bandar-e-abbas,kerman,shiraz,yazd,isfahan,sanandaj,urmia,an d finaly turkish border which is easy to cross

any help and question are welcome

Hossein

FF1078 17 Jan 2013 09:57

I'm joining Dave on this journey. Has anyone had any problems importing a bike to UAE with clothes in the panniers? E.G. helmet,boots,jacket and trousers etc?

Dubai355 17 Jan 2013 23:01

Welcome
 
You and Dave are more than welcome to UAE
Based on our experiance it's fine just inform the shipper and do
A list of the parts and gear which will be in the panniers
Take care
Glad to help you out any time
Regards
Saleh

Quote:

Originally Posted by FF1078 (Post 408050)
I'm joining Dave on this journey. Has anyone had any problems importing a bike to UAE with clothes in the panniers? E.G. helmet,boots,jacket and trousers etc?


dave beadle 17 Feb 2013 21:36

Hi John
Hope you are well.
Things are going okay at my end re trip. I've read a blog that you are coming back to civilisation sometime February! I would like to catch up via the phone if possible has I've got a few questions I would like to ask you.
Cheers for now,
Dave

bodii88 5 Oct 2013 09:31

try this route

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zylXFpwBaIN0.k3e7ci-EpHcE


then take a ferry to italy then continue your trip to uk :smiliex:

craneguy 10 Oct 2013 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodii88 (Post 438955)
try this route

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zylXFpwBaIN0.k3e7ci-EpHcE


then take a ferry to italy then continue your trip to uk :smiliex:

I thought it wasn't possible to get a motorcycle transit visa for Saudi as a non-GCC resident?

Don Corleone 3 Dec 2013 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodii88 (Post 438955)
try this route

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zylXFpwBaIN0.k3e7ci-EpHcE


then take a ferry to italy then continue your trip to uk :smiliex:

You'd miss all the fun on that route. Honestly, there is nothing to see in SA! Iranian borders might be a pain in the neck but the scenery is outstanding. My 2cts contribution.:oops2:

Jonnyoneye 29 Dec 2013 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Corleone (Post 445717)
You'd miss all the fun on that route. Honestly, there is nothing to see in SA! Iranian borders might be a pain in the neck but the scenery is outstanding. My 2cts contribution.:oops2:

I totally agree. Iran and it's people are both superb in my opinion. Well worth a visit by any means, but on the road you seem to meet such ordinary and different people than those you might encounter at an airport.

I can also vouch for Iraq and it's people ..... well, the ones that I met anyway. Interesting country and very friendly people, with the only real hold ups at checkpoints (many), being that all the guards wanted to see, touch and rev the bike, once or twice well into the red line, which I had to put a stop to, because an R1 engine re-build in the mountains of either Iran or Iraq was never really going to be possible methinks and I wasn't carrying a spare :-)


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