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jordanrtw 19 Dec 2017 12:10

On a Dr650 and stuck in Vienna
 
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of anyone in Europe that has parts for a dr650. I had the bearing in the sprocket carrier let go on the autobahn which then chewed up the cush drive setup and destroyed my wheel hub. Trying to track down quite a few bits and any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jordan

BUCKLE62 19 Dec 2017 12:24

just seen a back wheel assembly on ebay uk 95 pounds ?? f that helps


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mollydog 19 Dec 2017 18:54

You probably know, lots of DR's down in Oz ... I'd get on the DR forums and ask for help. Have a new Hubb sent out ... pay the freight to get it to you quickly.
(cheaper than Hotel I guess?)

Curious about the history of your DR (I ride one too!). How many miles on your DR? Year? Done lots of off road with loaded up bike?

I ask as my DR is over 60K miles and the hubb bearing still feels SMOOTH as do
both wheel bearings. I usually replace the Cush drive rubber inserts every 10K miles or so and ALWAYS relube all bearings at every tire change. Otherwise, I have no explanation as to WHY your hubb bearing failed.

Some feel over loading and rough off road terrain can be hard on that bearing.
within my 60K miles I've been down Baja 5 times, so lots of off road on her.

I'm sure someone will step up to help in Oz or USA. Go one the
DRriders forum and visit the BIG DR650 thread on ADV Rider. Thousands of DR riders on both forums.

Good luck, bier

Warin 19 Dec 2017 21:32

DR650 wrecking in Australia
SUZUKI DR650 2015 - Metropolitan Motorcycle Spares - Motorcycle Wreckers - Australia
The Motorcycle Wreckers

Shipping a whole wheel will not be cheap - but will be a quick fix on your end.

mika 20 Dec 2017 00:51

wreckers in Germany
 
Hi there,

the DR650SE was sold in Germany, Austria and Switzerland until 2001, so you should be able to find a used wheel with a wrecker in one of this countries. But make sure before you send them money, that the wheel is not from the pre96 models.

Vienna is not that bad of a place to break down, even in winter :-) ... go and see the xmas market and have a glühwein.

good luck
mika

Wauschi 20 Dec 2017 08:49

Jordan, I do have access to DR850 parts in Graz.
Unfortunately I can't tell if 850 parts fit your 650.

Feel free to directly call or mail me if you think there is anything I could help you with. A couch and workshop is also available in Graz.

Wauschi

jordanrtw 20 Dec 2017 10:56

Hi Buckel, do you have a link for that eBay ad? I couldn't find any dr wheels in the UK. Thanks.
Mollydog - the bike is a 2011 with 22xxx km. I've put it through a few thousand of Australian corrugations and a lot of hours of offroading in Australia.
I had last inspected, greased and looked over the wheel bearings 2000k ago and all was fine to my eye then. It was a rather dramatic bearing failure with a cracked race so im wondering if the bearings I'd bought (nsk) were part of a batch if counterfeits that have been found a lot in Australia. If so that could explain my failure.
Mika - I've been trying to find wreckers in the above. Do you know any shops specific to motorbikes. Ive made a dozen calls and people get frustrated with my broken German haha. And you're so right. Luckily I've got free accommodation for the moment so I can enjoy the markets and eat all the delicious food.
Wauschi - thanks very much for the offer. I may well come and take you up on that. Ill have a look see at the dr850 and see if anything is compatible.
Thanks everyone,
Merry Christmas for the coming week.
Jordan

motorang 20 Dec 2017 10:57

Hi Jordan, hi Wauschi :D,

our friend Thomas lives near Vienna and offered his help, too (trailer and all), but does not have parts.

I live in Graz, about 250 km from Vienna.

Depending on what is really broken a sprocket carrier may be sufficient?

There are 2 on ebay Austria for the XF650, as I have read above they may fit:
http://www.ebay.at/itm/SUZUKI-XF650-...item3615c51c38 (ebay 232293473336)
http://www.ebay.at/itm/SUZUKI-XF650-...item361d9a8424 (ebay 232424899620)

I will called the sellers company if they have a complete wheel for you as well, but that was already gone.
They run a breakers yard and do a lot of parts sales, so maybe the wheel was just too bulky to put it on ebay.

This is their shop in case you need anything else:
http://www.bike-recyc.at/index.php?id=2
On ebay: http://stores.ebay.at/BIKE-RECYC-AUS..._sid=108469357 (already filtered for DR650)

850 parts seem to have a bigger rear axle, so may not fit.

Andy

motorang 20 Dec 2017 11:02

Ah, I have a breakers list on my website, but not sure all the contacts are still alive:
Die motorang-Seiten: Motorrad-Gebrauchtteile

Some of them are more Yamaha guys as that is what I ride.

Andy

motorang 20 Dec 2017 11:18

Jordan,
check this one:
https://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-...lge-226899635/

In Vienna!

https://cache.willhaben.at/mmo/5/226...1881591101.jpg

Andy

motorang 20 Dec 2017 17:51

The rescue mission is on its way. We connected via Whatsapp.

Tom and Jordan will be picking up the broken DR650 this evening, and meet the seller of a set of wheels tomorrow noon near Vienna, assuming that the rear wheel will perfectly fit Jordans bike. :thumbup1:

This is what guardian angels look like these days - meet Tom:

http://motorang.com/tauerntreffen201...128_140120.jpg

Andy

Wauschi 20 Dec 2017 18:09

Andy, you are an outstanding role model. Tom, is the hero of the act.
Jordan, enjoy your ride. Maybe you want to share details of you journey.

Greetings
Wauschi

mika 20 Dec 2017 18:38

The rescue mission is on its way.
 
The rescue mission is on its way.

:clap::clap::thumbup1::thumbup1: :freezing::freezing::freezing::freezing: :mchappy:

well done guys !!!

greetings out of the South American summer. mika :scooter:

jordanrtw 21 Dec 2017 07:48

My Rescue
 
I cannot say thank you enough for the response I've received. My Dr and I are being looked after better than anything I could have imagined. My thanks to Andy and Tom and everyone else who has pitched in to help. Should all go to plan we will hopefully find the wheels this afternoon. Fingers crossed my swingarm is recoverable.
As for my trip - this is part 1 of my attempt at looping the world on a bike. Starting in London im aiming for Cape Town over the course of about 6 months. Part 2 will then hopefully be undertaken after I've finished my degree and involve some variation of Anchorage to Ushuaia.
My blog about this trip and the occasional comment about other places ive traveled is found at jordanwandersaround.com
Currently a little sparse, but I am hoping itll fill out as I go.
Thanks again to everyone,
Hopefully back on the road soon,
Jordan

mollydog 21 Dec 2017 21:53

Hey Jordan,
Hope you can get the new hubb and wheel set up and replaced soon. :thumbup1:

We have a few knowledgable DR650 guys here on HUBB, even more on
DRriders forum and probably the Aussie DR forum. I would study up best you can while your sitting waiting on parts.

It's weird, but lots more failures seem to happen to Oz based DR's than anywhere else in the world. NSU problems, gear box failures, Hubb bearing failures ... all fairly common among Oz DR riders based on my reading the forums for 10 years.

In USA and Canada we hardly hear a peep about any of these problems. Here in California there are LOTS of DR riders and many do off road. Most USA DR riders simply commute on this "Cheap and Cheerful" bike, so that explains some of the contrast vs. Aussie DR650 riders.

Also, I'm sure you know of the many RTW DR650 riders, most have Ride Reports on ADV Rider. I recommend reading them ALL if you have time.

In my unorganized riding group (60 odd riders, all sorts of bikes) We have 5 DR650 riders ATM. Most of these guys own 2 or 3 other bikes so only ride the DR part time.

But the DR is a BIG favorite for dual sport off road work riding the Black Rock Desert (Nevada), Death Valley area, California Sierra Nevada mountains and Baja (just a short run to the border for us) .

Among these DR riders we've had almost Zero problems over the last 10 years. One NSU failure (this on a friends bike with a dark and history of abuse), NO rear Hubb bearing failures and one blown engine from Lack of Oil (long story behind this ... but basically, owners fault 100%).

Some have done Hubb bearings preventatively however, and that is not a bad idea ... if you install the bearing CORRECTLY ... some have got this wrong.
(see Oz DR650 for insight)

I hope you will consider posting up your travel reports here on HUBB as well as your Blog. In my experience, not many are willing to chase down a Blog ... too many to follow.

If you post your ride reports hare on HUBB travel tales then EVERYONE IN THE WORLD can see it. Sort of "one stop shopping". Easy to follow with notification sent out every time you post an update. This is what makes HUBB work and makes it possible for the kind of help your getting from the community in
Austria.

What Goes Around Comes Around! :D:D:D:D

motorang 22 Dec 2017 06:05

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4588/...78500618_h.jpg2017-12-21 14.41.20 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr


This is the gone wheel hub destroyed by the cush drive - and the replacement.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4641/...df7ce921_h.jpg2017-12-21 15.08.58 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

Jordan is very happy

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4739/...d44f3e70_h.jpg2017-12-21 15.36.17 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

And a replacement swingarm is waiting in Romania for him. The drive chain/sprocket holder ate into that considerably as well.

Andy

jordanrtw 22 Dec 2017 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 575801)
Hey Jordan,

I hope you will consider posting up your travel reports here on HUBB as well as your Blog. In my experience, not many are willing to chase down a Blog ... too many to follow.

If you post your ride reports hare on HUBB travel tales then EVERYONE IN THE WORLD can see it. Sort of "one stop shopping". Easy to follow with notification sent out every time you post an update. This is what makes HUBB work and makes it possible for the kind of help your getting from the community in
Austria.

What Goes Around Comes Around! :D:D:D:D

Hi Mollydog,
By posting them here do you mean the riders tales section or the travel stories function?
Also, I completely understand what you mean. Having delved through those forums for months the Dr650 bikes in America seem to be plagued by far less incidents. I don't know why mine went but fingers crossed I'm healthy now and able to continue without any further issues.
Graz here I come I think.

Jordan

jordanrtw 22 Dec 2017 14:06

Austria - Suzuki DR650SE SP46 Front wheel, rear rim, tires, used 43 tooth sprocket
 
1. Complete front Wheel D650SE SP46
Komplettes Vorderrad DR 650 SE SP46
Rim / Felge OK
Bearings / Lager OK
Brake disk/ Bremsscheibe 3,35 mm
Tires Hidenau K70 90/90-21 like new, never riden on.
Reifen Heidenau K70 90/90-21 54S, noch nicht gefahren, Dot 22/14, NHS Schlauch wahrscheinlich neu, hinten war er jedenfalls neu

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4691/...bf64bc83_h.jpg2017-12-22 08.19.15 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4596/...22898cea_h.jpg2017-12-22 08.20.14 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr


2. Rear DR650SE SP46 rim as hub is damaged and missing 5 spokes, which were easy to remove and in useable condition. Rim was straight although no longer centered with missing spokes.

Hinterradfelge DR 650 SE SP46
Tagasago J17 M/C X MT2.50
noch montiert mit zerstörter Nabe
5 Speichen fehlen, die waren leicht rauszuschrauben
Felge ohne Schlag (jetzt, wo einige Speichen fehlen natürlich nicht mehr ganz zentriert)

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4600/...12ef421f_h.jpg2017-12-22 08.27.31 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4601/...0a01ef2c_h.jpg2017-12-22 08.28.21 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr


3. Rear tire - not used but once mounted and dismounted. Manufactured 2015.
Hinterreifen Heidenau K74 120/90-17 68T unbenützt, 1x montiert und demontiert, DOT 50/15

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4597/...80f8351f_b.jpg2017-12-22 08.17.43 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4729/...135d24a0_h.jpg2017-12-22 08.18.19 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr



4.
Sprocket - 43 tooth, serviceable condition, Sunstar

Kettenblatt DR 650 SE SP46, 525, 43 Zähne, Nr.4628 Sunstar
guter Zustand

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4733/...7fa2660c_b.jpg2017-12-22 10.11.03 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4687/...ce23dfea_b.jpg2017-12-22 10.12.25 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4591/...4316db57_h.jpg2017-12-22 10.14.14 by http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1000799, auf Flickr

Please contact me and I will arrange contact with Thomas who is storing them for me in Maria Enzersdorf, Vienna, Austria.
For Prices - please provide a fair offer and it will be considered.

kawazoki 22 Dec 2017 16:53

Jordan.....If you`r plans changed and road takes you to Serbia...I have rear swing arm from Suzuki SP 46 in excellent condition and its free....PM.

safe ride

mollydog 22 Dec 2017 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanrtw (Post 575825)
Hi Mollydog,
By posting them here do you mean the riders tales section or the travel stories function?
Also, I completely understand what you mean. Having delved through those forums for months the Dr650 bikes in America seem to be plagued by far less incidents. I don't know why mine went but fingers crossed I'm healthy now and able to continue without any further issues.
Graz here I come I think.

Jordan

I think you could post up your stories in either forum, but I was thinking the
"Ride Tales" forum actually.
Wow! what a response you've got here! I guess the DR650 is not dead in the EU after all!

Good luck, safe travels.
bier

jordanrtw 22 Dec 2017 23:17

Thank you everyone
 
Hello!
So the DR is back alive and on the road where she belongs. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone that offered advice or suggestions and a particular thanks to those who stepped up to help a stranded and struggling traveler as he went.
Thomas, Andreas and the rest of the Austrian riders who had input in getting me back on the road were absolute legends and Id be stuck here twiddling my fingers for much longer without them.
Thank you all!
Jordan

mika 23 Dec 2017 02:07

ride report
 
hi jordan,

pls post a ride report here on the hubb ... a lot of good people are willing to go far out of their way to help a traveler ... as I have expierenced a long time ago and I am trying to give back here in Bolivia to other travelers.

enjoy your ride. all the best.

mika :scooter:beer

AnTyx 19 Jan 2018 09:48

Glad to hear that biker karma came through!

In case someone with a similar problem but no guardian angels finds this thread - a good source of parts in Europe is motomike.eu. For example: https://www.motomike.eu/en/faction/s.../DR/Feldx/650/

That's what my local shop uses to order parts, including some pretty damn obscure stuff. :)


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