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straggler 25 May 2017 19:08

Austria vignette
 
Hi all,

I'll be driving through Austria later this year and want to avoid using the roads that require a vignette. I know that the motorways need one but I see that 'S' roads also do. Are those roads easy to spot eg do they have the letter 'S' on the road signs?

Thanks!

Temporaryescapee 25 May 2017 19:50

I recall it was reasonably clear when i was there a couple of years ago. I also remember you could buy for short periods only so it was not the issue it is in Switzerland where you need to buy by the year.


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g6snl 25 May 2017 20:23

From memory a 2 or 3 years ago you could get 10 days for about 4 or 6euro not alot really to spoil your budget

Donmanolo 25 May 2017 20:26

They're actually quite cheap, a 10 day vignette for a car (you mention driving) is only about 8 euros, a bike is obviously a bit less.
It's only required for motorways (clearly marked) and occasional sections of high-speed roads that can be avoided. Note that there are tunnels and bridges that require an additional toll.
I usually just plan my route carefully using viamichelin. It's no big deal.

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Tourider 25 May 2017 22:19

It's 5.10 Euros for a 10 day vignette. It won't break the bank and it's a nice little souvenir.

AnTyx 26 May 2017 12:40

Yup, an Austrian vignette is even cheaper than a Slovenian one (nevermind the ridiculous Swiss one), and it's a better souvenir than a flag on your pannier!

straggler 26 May 2017 20:02

Thanks all. I'll have a look at my satnav to see if I can set it to avoid the S roads.

The vignette is cheap but I'm not in a hurry and enjoy not using toll roads.

PanEuropean 30 May 2017 21:40

Straggler:

Be aware that there is one road in Austria (way high up in the mountains, towards the west end of the country) that is spectacular, but you have to pay a toll to ride on it. The toll, if I recall correctly, is pretty hefty (maybe about 20 Euros?). This has nothing at all to do with the Austrian vignette, it is a daily toll for this one spectacular mountain road.

Personally, I suggest you get the short-term vignette for your moto. The cost is pretty minimal, and you will likely find it more convenient to occasionally use a tunnel or a section of motorway to transit between one interesting riding location and another. The motorways are also a very quick and easy way of bypassing cities that you are not interested in entering.

Michael

sushi2831 31 May 2017 05:45

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Originally Posted by straggler (Post 564206)
I know that the motorways need one but I see that 'S' roads also do. Are those roads easy to spot eg do they have the letter 'S' on the road signs?

Hello

I dont know what you mean with S roads.
But, it is easy to avoid the toll motorways, the sign has a different colour (like all other counties) and often also a reminder for the vignette.

The problem in Austria is the toll on passes and tunnels.
North to south, east to west they block all the strategic routes and cost more the the 5.10 euros for the 10 day vignette.
But, with good planning, you should be able to find a free route through Austria.

Even if you are on the motorway and have the vignette, tunnels and e.g."Brenner" are not included.


sushi

Bones667 31 May 2017 09:37

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Originally Posted by PanEuropean (Post 564464)
Straggler:


Personally, I suggest you get the short-term vignette for your moto. The cost is pretty minimal, and you will likely find it more convenient to occasionally use a tunnel or a section of motorway to transit between one interesting riding location and another. The motorways are also a very quick and easy way of bypassing cities that you are not interested in entering.

Michael

I agree with PanEuropean - the cost is minimal and you will then have it if you need it. If you go on into Slovenia be sure to do the Vršič Pass as it's a stunning ride (Just be careful on the cobblestone U bends on the mountain roads :mchappy:

Endurodude 31 May 2017 19:47

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Originally Posted by AnTyx (Post 564258)
Yup, an Austrian vignette is even cheaper than a Slovenian one (nevermind the ridiculous Swiss one), and it's a better souvenir than a flag on your pannier!

Not to derail, but I'm off to Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania and Hungary - will I need vignettes for any of these countries as well?

Oh, and I also like the Austrian vignette as a momento (and my expensive Swiss one :innocent:).

Donmanolo 31 May 2017 20:33

assuming you're on a bike then: no, yes,no and yes, respectively. :))

The Slovene one is about seven euros for 7 days and is totally not worth it unless you're really in a hurry to leave the country . It would be a pity to miss the mountain roads in the north west , particularly the vrsic pass.

Endurodude 31 May 2017 20:41

Sorry - yes to the bike. I keep forgetting we're a broad church!

I'm glad I asked now; I assume these are all available from petrol stations and the like? Or are they like Switzerland and they're available at 'borders'?

Donmanolo 31 May 2017 20:50

Yes...! Slovene vignettes are available in any petrol station . Same thing for Hungary , only there they don't give you a physical sticker, they just input your numberplate into their system and give you a receipt . You can find an online map of which sections of motorway need them ( usually avoidable), but don't panic if you see a 'matrica' (vignette ) sign on some sections of national​ roads too, there's a different system that applies only to trucks and HGVs.

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PanEuropean 5 Jun 2017 20:25

Straggler:

Earlier today I rode through a short section (about 20 km) of Austria, entering from Germany and exiting into Switzerland. A vignette valid for 10 days - that being the shortest time they sell them for - costs 5 Euros for a moto. So, don't worry about the cost of the Austrian vignette.

By the way, Austria has much cheaper gasoline than either Germany or Switzerland - so, try and arrive with an empty tank, and don't forget to fill up before you leave Austria.

EnduroDude:

A motorcycle DOES NOT need a vignette for Romania. Only vehicles with four or more wheels need a Romanian vignette. I don't know the story for the other three countries you mentioned, however, if you do need a vignette, there will be lots and lots of signs advising you of this as you approach the border crossing into the country.

Michael

chris gale 6 Jun 2017 21:08

The Slovenian vignette is now 15 euros for seven days!! As for Austria if you are heading towards the Balkans then they will screw you whatever route you take unless you stay on minor roads. I intended to cross over the vrsic pass to avoid the two tunnels but got clobbered for an eleven euro toll just outside villach, to go through a tunnel.........robbing buxxers.
As for the Slovenian disc don't even think about not buying one as they check coming in and going out........ Nearly got clobbered last year so bought one this time and was glad I did :nono:
If you are coming in this direction give the vrsic pass a miss, lots of repairs going on and it wasn't up to much....... Try the Predel pass instead, a much better route and better surfaced......Mostly.

Tourider 6 Jun 2017 22:28

The Vrisic Pass starts and ends in Slovenia, perhaps you mean the Wurzen Pass that connects Riegersdorf in Austria with Kranjska Gora in Slovenia?

Donmanolo 6 Jun 2017 23:16

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Originally Posted by chris gale (Post 564909)
The Slovenian vignette is now 15 euros for seven days!! .

Uhm....no it isn't, unless you're unfortunate enough to be in a car.

While it's true that they have their Gestapo at nearly every motorway entrance and exit , the vignette is only for ( easily avoidable ) motorways!!
unlike Austria where there are tolls for some mountain roads , bridges and tunnels on top of the vignette thing.

https://www.dars.si/Dokumenti/Vignette_308.aspx

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AnTyx 7 Jun 2017 11:36

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Originally Posted by Bones667 (Post 564483)
If you go on into Slovenia be sure to do the Vršič Pass as it's a stunning ride (Just be careful on the cobblestone U bends on the mountain roads :mchappy:

See, I was worried about the cobblestones too, but they're actually incredibly grippy! The cobblestones are not there just to be pretty - they were put in so horses' all-metal horseshoes don't slip in winter conditions. For bike tires in the summer, it's all the grip you could want.

Same thing on the way up to Edelweiss Peak at Grossglockner in Austria (the 20-euro road mentioned by someone above).

AnTyx 7 Jun 2017 11:40

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Originally Posted by Endurodude (Post 564518)
Not to derail, but I'm off to Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania and Hungary - will I need vignettes for any of these countries as well?

Oh, and I also like the Austrian vignette as a momento (and my expensive Swiss one :innocent:).

Slovenia for sure, it's something like seven euros. The shape of the country means it's tricky avoiding the highway, and probably not worth it. Pro tip: Ljubljana only has a fairly small Habsburgian town center and a lot of communist bullshit around it, but Maribor is really nice!

The rest of them... didn't drive a bike through (did Romania by rental car, already had a vignette on it), but the Internet tells me that yes, you do need it. But in some countries not for a motorcycle! For example, in Czech, you need it for a car but not for a bike.

AnTyx 7 Jun 2017 11:43

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Originally Posted by Donmanolo (Post 564519)
The Slovene one is about seven euros for 7 days and is totally not worth it unless you're really in a hurry to leave the country . It would be a pity to miss the mountain roads in the north west , particularly the vrsic pass.

Well sure, but once you get down to Kranjska Gora and are heading towards Bled, let's say... sure, it's possible to go via the villages, but you're only annoying yourself sitting in traffic, and the vignette is cheap enough. I've seen people do vignette-avoidance as a sport, but most of the time I find it's best to have the option and exercise common sense based on the conditions on the day. Nobody says you have to use the vignette once you've bought it!

chris gale 12 Jun 2017 20:43

The Slovenian vigenette IS fifteen euros for a bike am here now and just bought one .Cars are substantially more . Their police are active on the border and I saw a number of foreign cars being pulled . Have no idea where seven euros came from it has not been that for at least two years
Looking at my map it was the wurzen pass :thumbup1:

chris gale 12 Jun 2017 20:55

I am officially locking myself in the toilet, the cost is in fact Seven euros and a few cents, was looking at the wrong receipt. Fifteen euros was the toll at the robbing Austrian tunnel.
My apologies to other Hubb members........ Sound of door shutting dohdoh


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