Tyre repairs ?
 

Anyone know of a website that has a step by step instructions as to how to reapir a tubeless tyre. I have all the bits to do it, except the knowledge
Thanks
Ian

Hey up mate, first off what do you have.

I take it you have a repair kit and probably a couple of tyre levers, etc. What are you using to break your bead, tyre pliers etc or high lift?

First off make sure you have a good practice on a spare with an old tyre, until you get the hang of using your tyre levers and bead breaker as you can easily damage you bead which on a tubless tyre can spell the end of it. Using a bead lube also makes the world of difference and will minimise the chance of bead damage.

Here is a link to the tyrepliers website and will head you in the right direction. I`ve got a set of tyrepliers and they are bloody good, makes easy work on the bead. After a bit of practice its not to bad, and you should be able to knock a tyre over in 1/2 hour or so.

http://www.tyrepliers.com.au/incontents.htm

Col
Thought that you might be lurking out there :-)
I have got myself a set of tyrepliers already and a tubless tyre repair kit, but I'm not clear as to how to actually repair the tyre. I've got a bag of bits, but no instructions.
Think I'll give Paul at Footloose a call and he can talk me through it.

Send me an email with your No and I`ll try to give you a ring sometime over the next few days and try to help you out. Have a good look thru the tyre pliers site to start with.

I`ve forgotten, have you got tubes or tubeless I`m guessing you have`nt thrown any tubes in and are probably tubeless. If so it`ll probably pay to throw in a tube or two as spares just incase you can`t seat the beard or somehow damage one.

You don't have to remove the tyre for a small puncture (such as a nail etc). Mark the area and remove the offending object. Tap the hole with the boring awl. Put the repair "tape" through the eye of the "stitching" awl and then:

Stick it in, twist it, pull it out, run! As Col. Mannering might have said!

I actually bought the tyrepliers' repair kit (bead breaker, two leavers and their puncture repair kit) and it comes with a good little booklet on how to use their tools but they also reproduce all their instructions on their website as previously mentioned.

Glad to see another Cornishman on the board.

enzo
http://www.bundubasher.com

Thanks for that.
I've just about got all the info and tools I need now. Just need to make the time to do a bit of practice !
Enzo, whereabouts in Cornwall are you from?

"British Public Schoolboy Adventurer" ???
Snap !
Which one?
Truro School for me 1960-67

Probably should be a PM but just a few names from the past

Surely lads,there must be a Denzil in here somewhere

Yes, your sooo right. Though I remember sordid escapades in Vicky (Victoria) Park & Cathedral Lane too.

As a member of the sixth and a prefect, Malvern was like checking into a hotel for two years - own room, TV, laundry, food and hot & cold running women! Only problem was ocking up to class occasionally - such a ong walk up the hill!

Woops! That's "rocking" and "long"!

OK - Ignoring the glory days bit guys, back to the subject

Why use tyre plyers ?

All you need is 2 bits of sturdy angle iron to break the bead - oh and a big hammer (not a problem for anyone with a landrover type toolkit :-> )

Or you could use your highlift, put the tyre on the floor, put the foot of the jack right ito the edge of the rim on the tyre and jack up against your vehicle

Just put one of them next to the edge of the wheel on the tyre with the angle uppermost and tap them inwards with the hammer

then slide the other piece next to it and do it again

Have found this works with 20 inch unimog tyres that have been on rims for years a treat - and on newer tyres its even easier easy

Then all you need is the cheapest washing up liquid you can find and a couple of tyre levers (mattsavage.com sells some really tough ones) to get into the tyre and either repair it or tube it



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Rich
LR101 300Tdi Ambi 'Tiggurr'

Yeh Yeh, thanks for that, you're dead right except .... these are my glory days !!!
It was Dinky toys and Biggles then, now I have the real thing. No more dreaming ... reality now.

Wasn't happy with Matt Savage's tyre irons - they're too soft - kept bending on me and I had to file the sides off one to get it into the notch of the LC split-ring. As said, bought the Tyreplier kit and am much happier with their tyre irons! (Also very happy with the repair kit, instructions etc.)

Their are other ways, and if you ever had a tube repaired or changed in Africa you cringe when you see some of these #jua kalis# or #shade tree mechanics# do it! So I do it myself and find the tyrepliers a really essential bit of kit that keep me from damaging the sidewalls of my tyres and they save ME from overheating and blowing my top!

Ian - as to glory days - just wait my friends, there is more, much more, to come! I'll see you when you get this side, as there's a cold beer waiting for you on the bar (as long as you bring me a couple of REAL ogi's that is!).

Already got the tyre plyers and a flat, just need to make the time to practice. Maybe tomorrow.
As for the beer ..... I'll bring the oggies and a couple of saffron buns
TTFN
Ian

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Enzo

Suprised to hear you're bending Matts tyre Irons, I'm taking truck tyres off - not your little toy 4x4 ones :-) and never had a problem with them.

Don't use split rims either so have no 'notch' issues.



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Rich
LR101 300Tdi Ambi 'Tiggurr'

If your bending your tyre levers my bet is your doing something slightly wrong, are you using a lubricant?

Rich, you should try a set of tyre pliers, you can break the beads on both sides of the rim pretty quick without much effort.

They are just a luxury item, the highlift does work well, but the tyrepliers just make life a bit easier.

"are you using a lubricant?"


Col. what are you suggesting?!

Lubricant (washing up liquid) was used but these were old split rims and the rubber had "welded" itself to the rims. After many hours of "schlepping" I took them to a commercial tyre centre and they split them for me - now there's no problems.

Rich - what are you using? I'm using 750/16's so I suppose you're using 900/16' on your FC?

And stop talking of "girls" tyres: changing a tyre, any tyre, in the UK is a completely different story to changing one in the bush!

I actually still have MS's tyre irons - they fit nicely alongside my seat and are handy for swiping crip\pled beggars off the bonnet with!

Col - don't think the standard tyre plyers do 20 inch rims - there might be an extension for them but my pieces of angle work great and were free (I'm a stingy old sod at times)

Enzo - I agree washing up liquid works great i've found to get the tyres off/on , not using it risks tearing the edge of the tyre. As for changing tyres in the bush being different to the UK please explain - OK it may be a little warmer but other than that its the same as I swap all my tyres myself by hand so I know I can do it when I need to and have had to. And the 'little 4x4' tyres was cos I use 10.5/20 unimog tyres on my truck so both the rims and the tyre are HEAVY man (wouldn't even like to contemplate having to throw around robs bedford size rims and tyres)




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Rich
LR101 300Tdi Ambi 'Tiggurr'

Not to diss your 'mog tyre changing, but a little warmer...that's the least of it!

1. finding a dust free environment to change your tube is bloody near impossible.

2. If you have to change a tyre, out of nowhere descends a mob hell bent on either helping you change your tyre or helping themselves to any of your kit - this does not exclude them from opening the doors of your vehicle to take alook inside for something nice to pinch.

3. We parked up in TZ to change a tyre and found we had parked, off road, right next to a 2m long Black Mamba. Luckily for us, but not for him, one of TZ's lunatic truck drivers had already, just, quashed the life out of him as he as still all floppy.

4. There are no hard shoulders in Kenya, the road just comes to an abrubt halt. Apart from the danger of changing any tyre in the path of traffic, there is usually a 6 to 18 inch drop off to the side of the road (caused by erosion) so pulling off the road is sometimes a mission all on it's own.

So apart from the people, the wildlife, the evironment and the crap roads I can see how you can draw a positive comparison between our experiences!