Michelin XZL tube or tubeless
 

Hi,

Please can someone tell me, are Michelin XZL tyres tubed or tubeless? I just dont seem to be able to find out for sure.

Thanx

Rob

if you look on the side wall it should tell you, it also depends what type of rim you have them on as some tubeless tyres have to have tubes on some rims, i.e split rims. My guess is that they are tubed, but thats only based on using michelin XS and XCL which are tubed.

Andy
Toyota H60 Landcruiser
land 101 ambie/camper
1968 morris minor traveller
www.plymouth-dakar.com

Don't know for sure but I think they are like the XZY - you can run them tubed or tubeless on the appropriate rim. Phone Michelin tech dept (look on website under 'professional usage', then 'truck tyres' for the number. They are very helpful.

Andrew.

Its a Tubeless tyre, but can be run tubed no problem
Cheers
Grif

I've had both XZL and XZY in 7.50x16. Both these types are made to run as tubeless and with tubes (depending on the rims).

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thanks for that guys

rob

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www.longroadtripsouth.com

Yep they can be run tubed or tubeless. I run them tubed as I use split-rims. They do tend to wear quite fast on tar though although the side walls are tough and I've never had an external puncture (just a few internal innertube punctures from my rusty old split rims!).

XZL'S are a great tyre and can be run tubed or tubeless, I've always run mine with tubes as they are easier to repair (poping tubless back on the rim can be a problem in the bush and improvised sidewall repairs are possible with tubes)If you decide to use tubes get heavy duty ones, for my last trip (48000 miles rtw) using 4 tyres with kelber heavy duty tubes and 2 spares with ordinary new tubes. I rotated the tyres at every service, when I ripped one of the spare tubes I replaced it with my one spare heavy duty then continued with 5 heavy duty and 1 ordinary, in total for the trip I had 8 punctures and replaced the ordinary tube twice more but never had a puncture with the heavy duty tubes, work out the statistics yourself!!! What ever you do dont use old tubes unless your ready for lots of repairs (been there done that, on a previous trip).
Mal

Safarirtw,

In your post you mention the use of heavy duty tubes. Do you have a link to the manufacturer or vendor in europe?

Tnx in advance
Ian
www.overlanding.nl

Yes of course I do, never leave home without them, otherwise you'd have a flat every time you hit the road! Will be buying new tubes soon and will be trying the Firestone/Sameer Africa one's. We're off to Tsavo East for a week and then the coast so will report how they fair.

If you can, ride them tubeless, andcarry those tubes in your spares kit.

Reading the tread it's clear that it's the tubes that puncture (because of friction with the tyre/rim), not the tyre.

And if your tubeless tyre punctures, there's those repair sets to plug the hole without taking the tyre of the rim. No sweat at all.

;-)

A good deal on XZLs if you are looking to buy
 

Hey,

I've just bought 6 tubeless XZLs from Costco (http://www.costco.co.uk/) and I think I got quite a good price for them, £399 including all fitting and balancing, which is £67 a tyre . It's certainly a LOT cheaper then the £100/tyre I was quoted by some other 4x4 outfitters.

So find a mate who is a member or join yourself and save yourself a buck. They also have industrial rachet straps for £10 for 4 and they are really good quality.

Well maybe somebody can get them cheaper but I'm leaving in a week and it was the best I could find. Good luck.

Cheers
Simon

best supplier of this type of tyre is Vass limited near bedford who do new and nearly new ex military tyres for 40-45 quid
They sold me 4 michelin type continental sand tyres and they were excelent in the sand
if you are using tubes on split rims go for a commercial bent metal valve tube as they are vastly thicker than car tubes.

Andy

I learned that the hard way, first time I ran tubeless they fitted them without flaps and yes, I had a puncture every time I left home! put me off for years but now for africa travel I would always use tubes. Take a good selection of tubes with you cos in africa they are crap and expensive, if you can get them at all.

tubes for tubeless rims
 

just one thing to add - even if it is years late on this thread - you need inner tubes for 'tubeless' rims if you are carrying spares for tubeless tyres. The holes for valves are narrower on tubeless rims - that's why Wolf rims for Landys come in tubed or tubeless variants. You can get tubes with narrow valve stems easily enough from good tyre places - but the inner tubes from Vass or similar ex-military suppliers are for tubed rims - and won't fit modern tubeless ones...

Tony

puntures wıth xzls
 

Hı

any advıce on the followıng runnıng two pıce spıt rıms on ıveco 4x4 have new xzls mıchlın flaps and tubes. Semm to be havıng puntures just wher the edge of the fllap ends as ıf ıt ıs rbbıng \catchıng agaınst the tube.

wheel 1: fırst punture was 3000 km repaıred then puntured agaın at 8000km

wheel 2: fırst punture at 7000 km the puntured agaın 8500 km put thınk thıs may be due to them puttıng old tube ın despıte us seeıng new one bought.

2 types of flap seem to be appearıng one tyhat ıs just the wıdth of the wheel and one that tends to rıde up hıgher on the sıdes.

Is one better than the other?

3 out of 4 puntures have been at 80 km hour

I am ruunıng them at max pressure 75 psı all puntures appear to be on rear wher most of the weıght ıs but thınk I am ın the weıght lımıt.


would lıke to get thıs soughted before goıng through pakıstan or am I askıng to much and need to except I wıll get puntures. The km seem low for ınternal puntures. Rıms are pıtted but faırly cleen due to goıng over wıth rotary sandıng tool

thanks Mark

They can be used tubeless and with tube. I use mine tubeless on a split rim and this way it is a breeze fixing them. You never have to dismount the rim only the tire. I have 14.00r20 I don't know if this is possible for a car. Small punctures are easy fixed with a system from rema sealfix I beleve. You just put a pug with vulcanising stuff in the hole and it is fixed! and for the bigger repairs you split the rim and take te tire off. This takes max. 15min. and put a outside tire patch in and mount the tire again. Be carefull tough never stand in front of the ring when putting air in. If the ring is not fixed properly it can burst off at any given pressure and you wouldn't be the first to get injured or killed by it!

gr.

Henk Jan

I think you meant an inside patch, correct?
Also, for the larger sizes like your 14.00s or my 395s you need a truck sized plug inserter (basically a large sewing needle with a transverse metal handle), the car sized needles are too short for the tread thickness.

Charlie

I mean an patch for the inside of an outside tyre :thumbup1: and indeed buy a set for a car if you have a car and for a truck if you have a truck