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Martynbiker 6 Feb 2008 12:13

the solution is simple......
 
Fit an EXTRA, but small lamp, ( like the harley running lights) say on front of mudguard, or somewhere easily visible, with an extra easily accesible but separately fused switch and when your Wife needs to attract your attention, she just switches THAT on...:thumbup1:

Martyn

stevesawol 6 Feb 2008 12:18

Thats a nice find John! It's good to hear that someone has asome kit that works!

Walkabout 6 Feb 2008 17:10

Kiss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skidz (Post 172972)
what's wrong with a couple of cheeky beeps on the horn to get your attention in the mirror, followed by one of the following:
i) left arm up and down to stop
ii) point at tank for fuel
iii) point at mouth for food/drink

Yep, variations on the arm-waving approach. Often, the one behind has to more or less catch up first so that the lead rider can make out what is being pointed out. Anyway, it works if the following rider just catches up and waves in some form.

The stopping technique:
This simple way of getting the lead rider to stop also works when the following rider falls off - basically it is fail safe. :rolleyes2:
If the lead rider can't see the follower in the mirrors and making progress, then it is time to stop - it works every time.

oldbmw 6 Feb 2008 23:49

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Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 172947)
We did try bike to bike communications, but found it un-workable. We couldn't hear each other with all the wind going through the helmet and just all the wires gave me the shits.

She does the frantic waiving, but I don't think this is very safe. The stopping method is unfavourable with her as she freaks out with that one. Plus I would have had the freak outs myself thinking that she had a massive come off. Which in one case in Far Eastern Russia was actually the case. Her getting hit by an overtaking car ended the trip. Hence the search for something subtle.

Are there any UHF radios that having flashing LED's when someone is calling?

suppose your wife is in trouble. All she has to do is stop, and press the call button. it willl ring and lights will flash. You have about 3km before you get out of range, bye then you 'should' have noted her absence. Especially if you have an earplug in your walkie talkie. alternatively ride behind her.

tmotten 7 Feb 2008 05:17

Some of you guys are missing the point. She refuses to stop and let me ride on. She always freaks out that I might stuff up the u-turn, or she is uncomfortable with being alone or stuff like that.

I might just try turning the spotties on to see if I notice that. Other than that. I might also see about UHF which can also be convenient on weekend out on the beach with my mate in the car.

Walkabout 7 Feb 2008 23:28

That's a totally new slant
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmotten (Post 173209)
Some of you guys are missing the point. She refuses to stop and let me ride on. She always freaks out that I might stuff up the u-turn, or she is uncomfortable with being alone or stuff like that.


Ah well, back to the drawing board!!

You could get a switch fitted for the headlight on the wife's bike or put her out in front.

Good luck!

skidz 8 Feb 2008 09:14

I still don't understand why you lose sight of her in your mirrors - surely whenever you're riding with anyone else, the front bike keeps the following bike in their mirrors so you can see if they've stopped, got held up, had an off and so they can see you and follow your lead/directions.

If she's in your mirrors, she can signal and pull over and when you see that, forget the U-ey if that freaks her out, just pull in yourself at the next convenient spot and then she can pull out, drive up to you and pull in with you. Happy days.

stevesawol 8 Feb 2008 11:50

horses for courses
 
I guess from all the replies that there are plenty of solutions but also plenty different senarios/problems. It's obviously not an isolated problem/situation.

So a case if look at all and figure what works best for yourself.
I.e
  • Radios. (direct communication) ($$$???)
  • using radios as a pager (flash and beep),
  • Flashing the headlight (having it modified to have a switch),
  • Let the slowest rider take point (whats their nav like?)
  • Always maintan Visual contact (mirrors) ( protentially difficult )
  • keep the speed lower / ride together (more realistic daily distance ??)
no hard and fast answer....????

tmotten 9 Feb 2008 01:13

This turned out to be quite an amuzing post.

I'm not going to change anything on the stock electrical setup, seeing as that's the hard and sole of this bike so the headlight thing is a no go. I might get her to turn on her highbeam which has 2 35W spotties wired onto it.

We do ride within view so I do see her in the mirror, but I can't always see the indicator, plus the indicator is a bit dodgy for traffic behind her as they think she's going to pul over right there and then.
The waving can't always be timed right with my looking in my mirror, so she ended up waving quite a while which has some safety implications.

I'll just have to experiment I reckon.

Dodger 9 Feb 2008 02:53

I would expand on Martyn's idea and put a coloured spotlight on the bike , green for example .
[ and yes it may be illegal - but who gives a sh#t ]

John The Harley Tourer 25 Mar 2008 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidz (Post 173391)
I still don't understand why you lose sight of her in your mirrors - surely whenever you're riding with anyone else, the front bike keeps the following bike in their mirrors so you can see if they've stopped, got held up, had an off and so they can see you and follow your lead/directions.

If she's in your mirrors, she can signal and pull over and when you see that, forget the U-ey if that freaks her out, just pull in yourself at the next convenient spot and then she can pull out, drive up to you and pull in with you. Happy days.

The suggestion from Skidz is the way that my Partner and I rode for years, after a short while it becomes second nature and works perfectly !

TDMalcolm 26 Mar 2008 12:03

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Originally Posted by illustratedman (Post 173014)
I use these radio's with my mate when we go on trips, speech is audible up to 100mph and probably over. PTT fitted to the bars hasnt got loads of wires dangling, good battery life as well.

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Hi All, Lidls in uk are doing some thing like this £24.99 per unit and headset etc, £49.98 is better than £80+ and guaranteed 3 yrs cant be bad:eek3:
TDMalcolm

Threewheelbonnie 15 Apr 2009 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodger (Post 173537)
I would expand on Martyn's idea and put a coloured spotlight on the bike , green for example .
[ and yes it may be illegal - but who gives a sh#t ]

High power LED's are very bright, very small and directional. Plod and MOT inspectors might be happy with the idea they are part of a defunct alarm system, so long as they aren't blue and flashing. Check out Maplins/Radio Shack etc.

Also, you can pick up mobile phone ring alerts for a tenner. If one riders gets lost, ring the mobile and the LED device in the tank bag lights up.

Andy

SpitfireTriple 22 Apr 2009 10:44

In line with what Walkabout Dave said, could you not just get hold of a UK-spec switch? Second-hand cheap from a breaker. In Britain, and other countries, the nanny state has not yet taken the light on/off decision away from us. With a UK-spec switch (or maybe just re-wire?), your wife could ride with the headlights on, avoiding attention from your police, but flash it on and off when she needs to contact you.

Alternatively, could you re-wire the electrics, maybe adding some circuitry, to allow your wife to flash her indicators simultaneously, hazard-light style? This could have other uses eg warning other road-users when broken down on a busy road.

brittman 22 Apr 2009 15:36

wife to me signal
 
How about letting her ride in front.save you money and then youll know she's safe.just a thought


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