Boarder between Pelenque Mex and Flores Tikal Guad area??
 

What I need to know is there a boarder that crosses in to Guadamala from Palenque Mexico in to Flores Tikal area? it would be nice from this area if its possible.

If so can you bring a motorcycle across doing the paper work from this crossing...its a Canadian bike.

Thanks for any in fo....John.

Yes, there are border crossing over the river.

This is funny because I was just re-researching this today.

There's info from a rider on this site from 2004 that you can get via a search.

I'm planning to do one of these Mex/Guat crossings in Dec.

There's also info if you Google it.

Sounds neat...

Thanks for the info.

John.

For a motorcyclist there is no practical border crossing into Guatemala near Palenque.Sorry. There are points to cross the Rio Ucumacinta, but these are all via boats not well suited to carrying vehicles and these are used mostly by backpacking tourists and locals with no cars ,etc. The closest such crossing is at Frontera Corozal (aka Fta. Echeverria) which is 174km south of Palenque via highway Mex 307 which parallels the Guatemala border all the way south and west to La Trinitaria which is on the Pan-american highway Mex190. At Fta.Corozal there was no customs facility in 2003, this would require all Mex. paperwork to be done in Palenque or Villa Hermosa-- a real annoyance and bother esp. if you decide not to cross after all. Then on the GT-side in Cooperativa Bethel they are also unlikely to be able to handle all the particulars of importing a bike temporarily.The gravel road does go from there to Flores ,etc.
Your best bet is to follow Mex 307, it is a great route, all paved , with lots of possible side excursions in Mexico, visit Bonampak ruins, ,Lagos de Montebello Park etc. Hotels (cheap)in Fta.Corozal, Benemerito de las Americas,Tziscao ; Gas available en route no problem.Then enter GT via the Panam at Cd Cuauhtemoc, and if you have your mind set on doing gravel , then you can pick up highway 7W from Huehuetenango east to Sacapulas, S.Cristobal Verapaz and to Coban and points north or all the way east on 7E to Rio Dulce and paved highway CA 13 north back to Flores and Tikal then to Belize

Is it possible for a bike to cross from El Pedregal, Mexico to El Naranjo, Guatemala? They are located almost due east of Palenque on the way to Flores.

Cameron, I know which potential crossing point you mean, but I haven't checked it out personally yet.The closest I have been to it was Tenosique at the end of Mex 203 . The only information I have is speculative from what I have found in my Quimera Mexico Road Guide (second edition,2002, ISBN 968-7811-16-1)which shows a marker for a border crossing point connecting the secondary,improved ,road from Tenosique, south of the Rio San Pedro, to the track which goes to La Pita GT which is south of El Naranjo,GT. about10km. Pedregal is shown as north of the Rio S.P. accessible by a different road only .Then my aged official Guatemala fold out road map of 1996 shows no road to the border but does show the all-weather road from El Naranjo to La Libertad and thence Flores.My Guia Roji atlas(ISBN 970-621-368-6) tenth edition 2003,shows nothing of use for GT but does show the road from Tenosique as gravel and ending at La Estrella within sight of the border. As yet I have been unable to locate a website of the Mexican government that might give details to any of the border crossing customs points (Aduana) . The question is still if there is an actual officially manned entry/exit facility for road traffic , and open what hours?

From the info I remember, there are 3 established river crossings in that area.

Frontera, Benemerica and one up in Campeche that goes up the river for a ways into Guat.

My goal is to do the Frontera crossing in Dec...or learn why it can't be done with moto.

Thanks Sjoerd,

Ill take the Panam crossing like you mentioned.

Cheers JV.

Take the Panamerican Highway through Ciudad Cuathemoc / La Mesilla border. What type of bike are you riding on?

I crossed from Guatemala into Mexico and had no problems, but that was 3 years ago. The other side around i don't know, but give it a dry! The road from Palenque to the boarder is good and it is not to far! But bargain hard for the price to cross the river with a boat!
There are many lanchas around and they will take you! There is a short option just across the river, but steep up the other side you might not make it without flipping back down, but the other option is to go about 5km down the river and there it is easy to leave the boat and the immigration office from Guatemala is there as well!

Good Luck, Appie!

Looking for anymore info on this crossing from Guat to Mex. Fta. Corozal to Palanque as is the shortest route. Adjuana office on both the Mex. and Guat side? Cost of the boat to cross the river? thanxs, Jason

I'll be there in about 2 weeks and will report back.

Lone Rider,

I will be there about two weeks after you.
Looking forward to your report!

Mike.

In 1993, I put my KLR650 on a small boat at Tenosique and floated down the river to El Naranjo, where they were able to process my bike and I was able to ride to San Benito/Flores.

I can't give any more up to date info than that, though.

I did the same crossing as Albert, two years ago and had no problems. Had to stamp out in Bethel. Never went in that way though, would be interested in hearing from someone that did.

I crossed 2 days ago, Frontera Crazol - Bethel, without a problem.
It had rained the night before and also that morning. The slopes down the river banks are very slick when wet.
I paid $40us for the lancha and approx $10us for extra labor to load and unload the bike.
If you had a light bike, you might be able to handle this without extra help. Mine weighs 600lb.
If it were dry, you could ride up the bank at Bethel. When wet, knobbies may not even work.
The entire world helped loading the bike... http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif The lancha pilot took along 2 guys and we four were able to push the bike to level ground at Bethel.
The trip took about 30 minutes and a lot of floating debris was navigated while going up river.
Customs at Bethel was very quick and easy. Two officials were on duty and they said [there is no fee at Bethel]. I asked about my bike and a 'sticker'. He then wrote Bethel into my passport, again saying, there was no fee at Bethel.
I went thru the border at Beize in '99 and received a 'sticker' for my truck at that time. Who knows....
I enjoyed this crossing and it was a lot more fun than the normal BS of lines and paperwork tossing that can happen at the more traveled borders. I will do this one again, someday.

BTW, I did ask the lancha pilot (and crew) about La Technica and learned that this would have been down river, and a longer trip. Also, I had no knowledege as to if Customs/entry could be handled there.

Have fun...

Thanks for the report, will be going that way in mid Feb. , as I said earlier we went almost straight across the river to were you left from. There would have been almost no way for you to get a 600lb. bike up, what we came down, but I'll be trying it with my 300lb ATK. thanks again, and let us know if you have trouble exiting. Dan

Lone Rider's pictures are here:
http://www.trailpilgrim.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1050

Sounds like fun Lone Rider. I opted for the Belize route. I did get a sticker from adjana when I entered Mexico. I just stuck it in my pocket and havent been asked for it the few times Ive been stopped(just passport). Id be interrested to know if you have any problems not having this sticker. If you make it up to the US boarder my advice would be to drive straight through to the US and not ask any questions.

Jason, nobody will care if you just drive out of Mexico, only US cutoms will stop you, but don't do it unless you intend to return within the remaining valid time on your permits ,or if you intend to NEVER return to Mexico. Failure to have a permit, and failure to cancel the permit before its expiry date will show up without fail if they run your papers on a roadside check or when you return on a next visit. They have the legal right to confiscate your bike, jail you and impose a heavy fine , and prevent you from entering again. The days of tons of paperwork getting filed never to be looked at again are gone.All your legal movements across the border into the interior,are documented on their computers. In Sept .'04 I had a friendly chat with the aduanista at Tecate and she showed me the onscreen list of all the times I had visited Mexico since their computer tracking started. If you want to enjoy Mexico play by their rules.

I still have my MX sticker on the bike from an earlier trip in Oct, so no problemo.

The only place I've been asked to show the vehicle paperwork is at the 20 km/mi checkpoints.

I'm been in MX both with and without the sticker afixed to my bike. It's the paperwork permit that's important. It's not uncommon for stickers to be stolen.

Bethel issued me no permit for my bike, only wanted my passport. Again, I asked, but they had nothing for me. This may create a problem when I exit Guat via a more normal land border. If so, I'll report back.







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Good post, Senor Bakker.

Even if you leave MX and the permit expires, you may turn in the paperwork at another time. This only takes a little more time to get your new permit processed. I actually think it helped me one time by them already having my 'facts' on the old, expired permit.

The KEY to this is having the same moto, because your VIN numbers will be checked.

You can even lose your paperwork, but you better show up with the same moto.. http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif

I do have experience, from years ago, of trying to re-enter MX after a permit has expired and without the original vehicle. I was lucky, but it wasn't much fun. Total case of ignorance on my part.

The last time I left mexico(to the south)with the plan of returning ,on the way home. They made me buy a "doble entrada". I don't remember how much it was.
Hopefully the worst case senario in exiting guat. is they make you buy the permit to leave.
Dan

"it's not uncommon for (Mexican temporary vehicle import) stickers to be stolen"

This makes no sense as the stickers self-destruct when removed and you have to remove the dyes from your windscreen with gasoline. Plus they are numeralized to match the numbers on your paper permit.

Pure vandalism, I suspect. I was been told told by one official to not apply the sticker. But, the 20? pt checkpoints want to see them.

Life is interesting, no?