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Meike Huelsmann 9 Jan 2015 00:03

Banjerito in Baja ?
 
Can sombody say if there in a Banjerito in the south of Baja? We would like to leave our bikes there for 10 month and come back and get a new TIVP for our next journey.
Do you have any idea where we could getthis done?

juanvaldez650 9 Jan 2015 00:17

The TIVP is max 180 days. Bike has to leave country before that or lose deposit.

mollydog 9 Jan 2015 01:08

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Originally Posted by Meike Huelsmann (Post 491498)
Can sombody say if there in a Banjerito in the south of Baja? We would like to leave our bikes there for 10 month and come back and get a new TIVP for our next journey.
Do you have any idea where we could getthis done?

Yes, the only Banjercito office in Baja Sur is in La Paz at the port.
Where are you now? Do you already have TVIP for your bikes ... or not? I'm not sure if you can get your deposit refund at Banjercito in La Paz or not ... they may force you to go all the way to the border ... not sure on this.

As you probably know, you DO NOT need a TVIP for Baja and there is NO record of your bike when you enter Mexico from USA. You only need the TVIP when you travel to Mainland or come into Mexico from the South.

If you already have a TVIP then normally you would EXIT Mexico within the 180 period in order to get your deposit refunded back to you.

BUT! You can turn in your TVIP up near the border, then return to Baja and leave your bikes there as long as you like.
Once the TVIP is cancelled, you are FREE to do what you like with the bikes ... in BAJA only. Many Gringos store bikes and cars in Baja for YEARS! It may be possible to turn in your TVIP in La Paz Banjercito office, I just don't know. ASK! They are friendly enough!
Let us know the answer!

Meike Huelsmann 9 Jan 2015 01:56

Thanks
but we have already a TVIP, we are Germans and shipped the bikes to Veracruz.
Now we are going to Porto Angel and we are hoping to leave the bikes somwhere in Mexico but if that is not possible we are driving them up to Texas, but Baja would be much nicer for us, since we have not seen it.
But I reckon we don't have enough time to ride up to La Paz and try it, because by that tiem we don't have tine to ride to Texas..
It is just too uncertain so I guees it is better to find out for someone who has more time

Meike Huelsmann 17 Jan 2015 21:46

We have just called the Banjercito in La Paz and ask them if we could turn in our TVIP there and they said no. This can only be done at the border!
Just FYI

mollydog 18 Jan 2015 07:12

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Originally Posted by Meike Huelsmann (Post 492399)
We have just called the Banjercito in La Paz and ask them if we could turn in our TVIP there and they said no. This can only be done at the border!
Just FYI

Thanks for verifying this! No surprise at all. The whole TVIP system is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Oh well, make the best you can! beer

If you are riding North, to USA and if you have the time ... I would recommend taking the Ferry from Topolobambo (near Los Mochis) over to La Paz, Baja and then ride up to the USA through Baja.

It's a MUCH NICER ride than riding on mainland Mexico. I've done both routes several times, Baja is really worth it. But if you must go to Texas ... then it is quite a distance out of your way.

If you do ride on mainland, maybe divert to see Copper Canyon? Interesting terrain. Highway 16 is a great road. Very long.

bier

mollydog 29 Feb 2016 18:23

That's good stuff! Let us know if you can get your TVIP there!
I've been to the Migracion office in Ensenada (same general location IIRC) but did not but use the Banjercito services there ... in fact can't remember if they had them there when I was there 8 years ago. We only got tourist visas there, no TVIP.

Note that there is a main Banjercito/Aduana office in Tijuana, located right at the border. Of course migracion is there as well. All located in the new, modern office buildings built in the last few years.

Tony LEE 29 Feb 2016 21:01

FMM at the borders and TIP at the end of the hassle free zone which varies from east to west

IanJ 1 Mar 2016 09:56

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Originally Posted by thepinproject (Post 532010)
No luck! We went today to Banjercito and they said NO. Only at the borders in Tijuana. In Tecate, they said no system.

We hope we will make it in La Paz. Whats the chances they will refuse again?

We got the tourist card from Tecate though!

Greetings Pin

We went through the Tecate in Nov 2007 and discovered the same lack of Banjercito. We were told that we would have to go to Tijuana or Mexicali and that while Ensenda had a Banjercito they were geared towards the yachts that visited not moto's (or that was my memory). It looks like not a lot has changed.

In the end I went up to Tijuana and got the import permit there. I have a vague memory of being told about La Paz but I was paranoid about going that far and finding out it wasn't true.

Getting to the Banjercito in Tijuana is easy if you are coming in from the USA (It's part of the immigration complex at the border) but it's a pain in the backside from the Mexican side as the road signs wants to send you back into the USA. However I have some good news, here are the GPS coords for the Banjercito.

N32 32.424 W117 01.943

If you have a GPS with routing that should get you there or use google maps.

One caveat, I'm assuming that it hasn't moved location, this was from 2007.

I hope this helps.

Regards

Ian J

mollydog 1 Mar 2016 19:50

It has moved Ian, and you're correct it's a PITA to get there from the Mexican side. Best park bike and WALK over.

Everything's changed since 2007, new building, slightly different location, new roads and routes up to and through border area. The new buildings are pretty nice. Several govt. offices located there including Migracion, Aduana/Banjercito and some others.

Far as I know, Tecate has never offered TVIP service but you can get a FMM (tourist visa) there. Tecate is better to exit Mexico but you CANNOT cancel your TVIP there. So you've got to stop at either a main Banjercito office or find a Kiosk along the road near the border. (they have one like this just outside Nogales right on main road, hard to miss)

Not sure what other options are for canceling near Mexicali or how to get there on Mexican side. Bit of a pain unless they've made it easier.

RickMcD 2 Mar 2016 16:45

Tvip
 
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Originally Posted by mollydog (Post 532124)
Far as I know, Tecate has never offered TVIP service but you can get a FMM (tourist visa) there. Tecate is better to exit Mexico but you CANNOT cancel your TVIP there. .

Tecate used to be THE place to get TVIP. Very easy. Did is several times in 2001, 2003 and 2004, but now. :thumbdown: Still like it coming back from the Baja vice TJ. Now my favorite (if going down mainland) is San Luis Rio Colorado outside Yuma. Very easy there also. Last couple of times down, I got the TVIP on the internet and didn't even slow down going thru border. :thumbup1:

Sjoerd Bakker 2 Mar 2016 19:30

For Pinproject and Tonylee and EVERYBODY finding this in later research .

The recurring question , confusion , worry and insistence about getting the TVIP at the BORDER in northern Baja is not necessary and pointless in 2016.

Please do understand and accept the fact that the TVIP is available at the BANJERCITO desk at the PICHILINGUE FERRY TERMINAL in BCS .It is a fixed feature of the ferry terminal located 18km north of downtown La Paz.
. This has been the case for many years and it is the reason why TECATE does not issue the TVIP , it would be pointless duplication for services which are in limited demand there.
Getting a TVIP at Tijuana or Mexicali , although possible, is also pointless if you are heading to La Paz and the ferry to the mainland . No need to fear that somehow they will not issue TVIP at the ferry dock, it is an established part of their service package.

If you are entering Baja but are going to mainland Mexico by land you can postpone getting the TVIP AND FMM until you reach San Luis RC, very easy to do it that way and legal .

What you absolutely MUST obtain at the border is the FMM ( tourist card) .Without that FMM you will NOT be able to get the TVIP at Pichilingue nor anywhere else not at or near the border .And, without the TVIP you will not be permitted to board a ferry to mainland Mexico at Pichilingue.

Also be aware that BANJERCITO has an actual banking arm with locations in various towns in Mexico to serve mainly military personnel. These banks have totally nothing to do with anything related to TVIP but the name leads many Google searchers astray with hopes of having found a new source for TVIP. Wrong .

From Mollydog 's experience ( and others) we know that TECATE doesn't cancel TVIP . Therefor if you landed in BAJA with a ferry you should head for either Tijuana , east end Mexicali or San Luis Rio Colorado , SON to have your TVIP cancelled and to collect your deposit refund . Or you could continue your mainland Mexico sojourn to exit at any point along the border where you then cancel.
Of course if you are coming into Baja by road from interior eastern Mexico and intend to cross into California USA you should think ahead , choose the easy solution and cancel the TVIP at San Luis RC before going into Baja where you do not need it. The San Luis RC border facility is totally easy to to locate a block north of Mex 2.
The east end Mexicali crossing is a bit of a maze to find from Mex 2,but if you go to googlemaps and type it into the search it will show up ON THE MAP . For anyone capable of reading a map and following actual provided roadside direction signs it is a simple matter of just riding there , none of that robotic unthinking zeroing in on a set of GPS coordinates dictated by a follower tool .Think ! Read a map . The border crossing is north of Mex 2 in east end industrial zones of Mexicali and has street- side
direction signs to it , how hard can that be !

And Rick , even though you may get your TVIP and FMM over the internet you are still obligated to STOP at the border crossing and go inside to the counters to have your entry validated and have the ENTRADA stamp put in your passport

VicMitch 19 Mar 2016 01:21

The reason they don't tell you about the tourist card is that 98% of the traffic into Baja stays in Baja.

yuma simon 19 Mar 2016 14:15

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Originally Posted by RickMcD (Post 532201)
Now my favorite (if going down mainland) is San Luis Rio Colorado outside Yuma. Very easy there also. Last couple of times down, I got the TVIP on the internet and didn't even slow down going thru border. :thumbup1:

Sorry to hijack, but if you are coming down through here, PM me if you have time to stop for beer next time through...

mollydog 19 Mar 2016 17:09

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Originally Posted by VicMitch (Post 533591)
The reason they don't tell you about the tourist card is that 98% of the traffic into Baja stays in Baja.

This is true, and most stay in the big border cities: Tijuana, Mexicali, Nogales and so on. Very few explore further South other than tourists. The border region generates hundreds of millions of revenues annually for both
US and Mexico and their citizens.

Nonetheless, Mexico's own law does require a tourist visa after 7 days (iirc). But of course with day tripper tourists this is never enforced anywhere within 200 miles of the border.

Roughly 75% of border traffic are Mexican workers who "commute" from a large border city over to USA daily or weekly for work. Constant traffic.

Most have expedited visa which (in theory) shortens wait times to cross.
So if you wonder why there is a 2 to 3 hour wait at some borders (Tijuana, Mexicali), the reason is Mexican workers.

Common sense would tell us that US immigration/customs would have at least
ONE LINE (out of the 20 lines) that says US PASSPORT HOLDERS ONLY. But when fear and the militarist police state take over ... common sense is abandon. :oops2:


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