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which of theses stoves would be best???
been looking at stoves and the choice is so vast its getting annoying these two seem very good but which would be best any views on this. The planned trip is rtw and there are two of us travelling thanks in advance
Primus Eta Power MF Stove Camping Fishing Outdoors on eBay (end time 12-Jun-10 22:11:50 BST) or Primus OmniFuel Stove - Uses ANY Fuel! on eBay (end time 23-May-10 16:32:01 BST) |
Personally I'd rather use one of these Coleman UK - Unleaded Feather™ Stove
Nearer to 'home' I use a coleman gas one, but for a longer trip I'd use one of the above. |
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I recently did a week long trip to the pyrennes and central France. The only bit of equipment I had problem with was my brand new primus omnifuel stove. It wont simmer reliably on kerosene. I think it may be better on petrol, but if i have to use that I would have been better off with the SVEA123 petrol stove which has almost no moving parts to go wrong. I ended up using my £10 backup gas stove. You do really need to be able to simmer to cook many one pot recipes. |
I would agree with Dave. The coleman unleaded stoves are very efficient and compact.
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+1 for coleman, this time an exponent. starting in wind or cold is sometimes a fuss but it ran reliably on unleaded from the bike for any of my longer camping trips.
for shorter (overnight to a week) trips i use my trangia 27 with the gas conversion. this is so fuel efficient for a propane stove that one mid size can lasts two meals a day for a week. it boils so fast, and heats canned food so fast your not ready for it! dont be swayed by a big name brand, there are a lot of stoves out there without the big price tags. |
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My experiene is thus, I had a msr wisperlight for 15yrs and never had a problem with it (i think i cleaned it once) bought a primus omni and 6 months of use later and it needs rebuilding after every 2 hours of use. It can take up to 30+ minutes to boil a ltr of water.... We just traveled from the UK to SA and i am rebuying a MSR...
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+1 Coleman..
Any of them that run on unleaded. They're brilliant. You can carry them fully fueled, they don't leak. Mines been going for 4 years and NEVER been cleaned and only run on unleaded. Pretty compact and will boil a massive 2L billy can of water in 10 mins. I have the 533 sportster dual fuel and it burns at full power for 40 mins off a single filling. I can't imagine anyone needed anything else !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put a cap of fuel injection cleaner or carb cleaner in a full tank every 100 fills and it keeps it all clean and clear. |
+1 Coleman
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yep I have a coleman a well
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Another one for the Coleman - maybe a tiny bit more bulky than the competition and heavier but its easy to use no need to connect pipes, fanny about with seperate bottles or anything just pull it out light it up and your cooking a meal or boiling a cuppa in a jiffy.
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looks like its a coleman then just a case of which one now the peak 1 442 looks good for the money
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Many thanks for the constructive comments its very refreshing to use a forum which offers help (not criticism) when basic questions are asked. I have spoken to a few salesman about stoves but few really use them (for more than a demo at least) and cant always give you the info you want thanks again.
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Well after much searching reading and very nice offers of stoves for sale I opted for the Coleman 442 feather £27 from a well known auction site hopefully it will arrive in time to try it this weekend on a short trip to Norfolk does anyone know the make of the saucepan that it seems to fit into very well......
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A wise choice.
I went camping a few weeks ago and came to start my 533 and for the first time it had a fault! I filled it up and when I pressurised it the on/off valve was leaking and nothing came out of the ring! Well, I thought it's given stellar service for 15+ years I can't complain. At least I can get all of the parts still. But guess what? In the morning I tried it again and it ran perfect! I usually leave it with fuel in it and pressurised all winter but this time for some reason I'd left it empty and unpressurised. That's all I can put it down to. It seems to be back to it's reliable self now and I trust it enough to use it again on my next month long trip. No wonder they haven't altered the design over the years it's bombproof. I'm sure yours will give you 20 years of service. I'd suggest leaving it pressurised though. |
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Zebra Stainless Steel Billy Can 14cm, Cooking Equipment My larger 533 dual fuel fits into the 16mm diameter Zebra but it's just too big for the 14mm. Your feather might slide perfecty into the 14mm. Measure it's widest part when it arrives (inc the pump) and see. The Zebras aren't cheap but they are great kit and should last a lifetime. |
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or do what i used to do, if its going to be put away for the winter then drain it, make sure its dried out properly, put a spoon of engine oil in the tank and pull out the pump and vaseline the leather washer. then 1st time its used put a spoon of red-x in the tank and it'll clean it out nicely. i used mine for about 7yrs without cleaning or spares. |
It's good to hear that you can store these stoves pressurized.
I always store mine unpressurized. I worry that the pressure would exert constant force on the seals and make them fail sooner. |
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Optimus Nova- dropped, squished, never had a problem-:D
ran it on diesel and petrol great burner with quick disconnect- I recommend it |
I have an MSR XGK II
Sounds like a rocket burner when it is going, probably because it goes like a rocket burner. In nearly 20 years I have cleaned the jet twice (mine is the early version without the shaker jet) and put vaseline on the leather pump washer once. I store it with the pump in the bottle, without emptying the fuel. It takes a bit of practice to get it to simmer but will do it, it just takes a bit of getting used to. I have run it with kerosene/parrafin but, travelling with the bike, I just use unleaded these days. MSR have a completely new version out now, and there are no doubt better stoves on the market, but it is a bit like an old friend. My mate picked up a mint shaker jet version on ebay last year for not much money. Worth a look. |
with the coleman single burn being around for so long you can pick up used one for 15 bucks or so. the 100 bucks you save mean 2 more days on the road.
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Another great option is the Kelly Kettle with saucepan attachment. Never run out of fuel and never worry about rain or wind. I have one as a back up to my MSR multi-fuel and my Coleman CampingGaz stoves.
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I go with Optimus...
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+1 on the NOVA stove
Just a thought for you to think about: I had (and sold) the Nova Plus- the fuel line is the simmer control and since it lives most of its life in the bag, it acquires a curve- try rotating a curve..... not gooddoh it became a real nuisance. I gave up on it and went back to the standard Nova with the foldaway handle- Perfect:thumbup1: Gas is not always easy to find so I prefer using petrol- an occasional mix of unleaded fuel + injector cleaner keeps it sweet ( as does daily use of its clever magnetic jet cleaner) |
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