Daft Question! Petrol stove-best way to fill
 

Hi, just purchased Coleman 533 stove.

How do you fill when on the road?

Don't fancy trying to fill it at the pumps, or siphoning from the bike tank and won't have jerry can!!!

Options and opinions welcomed.

Phil

50ml syringe with a 20cm long 2mm hose. Suck out of tank and squeeze into stove

I pull the fuel hose off the carb or the tap and drain straight into the filler hole. On my bikes the fuel tap has always been easily accessible. Otherwise, I'd put a hose in, perhaps with a tap at the end.

I used a syringe with my old Juwel stove, but the plastic syringe didn't much like the petrol and became hard and brittle.

buy one of those "sigg" 1.5 litre or equivalent fuel bottle. The neck is wide enough to fill from a gas pump.. the added benefit from this is that if your bike ever runs out of fuel in the middle of nowhere you have an option besides pushing it http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif

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But seriously, if you can access a fuel tap on your bike I would recommend carrying a length of clear fuel line. I would recommend that you make sure the stove is empty of fuel before stowing it back in with your luggage.

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Thanks for the replies all.

Trouble is the fuel tap on my bike isn't particularly accessible and is only vacuum operated (ie, it has no "tap")!

I wondered about using a length of tube from the carb drain stub and run the engine to get flow.....

Think the syringe/fuel sack may be safer tho!

Phil

I used the syringe trick, but after about five weeks on the road the rubber components of the syringe were trashed by the petrol. I ended up siphoning (a.k.a. drinking - yurk!) the petrol. Therefore I have great interest in this topic.

I too have tasted petrol (and diesel, kero etc...) and don't particularly like it!

Don't fancy taking a syringe, extra gear with little use other than filling stove...
Don't fancy something that needs excess hose, fills with muck etc...

Another thought is a Q/D fuel filter at a convenient place on the fuel line?

Phil

Seems like your question was not that daft after all Shandy.

I used my syringe idea a couple of times now and it worked fine but yes I would believe that the perol will eat the rubber etc after a while...back to the drawing board. I will keep using the syringe anyway till it falls apart and then report back to this thread. (fortunately the Funduro tap hose is easily accesible)

I had a separate fuel tap in-line on the hose from the tank, and a short piece of hose from it long enough to fill a stove tank. Worked a treat - just remember to plug the end of the hose or it gets full of crap.

If you have a vacuum tap, you can still do that - MOST vacuum taps have a "Prime" position for when you run out of fuel and drain the system completely. Without a prime setting, you'd have to crank for a long time to fill the carbs - and possibly kill the battery.

If no prime setting, just run the bike for a minute.

I carry a clear syphon hose under my bike seat, though with an outboard motor fuel bulb in the middle (Squeeze rubber thing, in case they are called something else). Saves getting a mouthful of fuel and can also be used to fill the tank from cars, drums etc.

.... or you can do as a friend, find a decent bike with two fuel taps and take the fuel from him.

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Ok, thanx for your help all!

No tap so no 'prime' position....

Like the Idea of priming bulb, but prefer to have that bit less clutter if poss!

Like the idea of using a mates bike with 2 taps - but I'm sure they'll be no one around when needed!

Maybe an idea to put a straight joint in the petrol hose to fill the stove and break and suck the vacuum pipe to get flow???
OR
Fit a "Y" piece into the petrol pipe with a lenght of hose and dummy end?

Experimentation time - not the sort of thing you can riks failing in use though!

Phil

Update; Ordered a Tee piece and some fuel pipe spring clips from Honda (T piece as the one that supplies fuel to both carbs).

Decided to split the fuel line and run a length of hose to somewhere convenient with a bung in the end.

Phil

Phil

I suggest you put a tap betweenn the T piece and the bung..............hate to hear that the bung bounced out 125 km back down the road.....

John


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Thanx for the tip, must had to admit, that thought had crossed my mind, figured I'd never lost the bung from the airbox/breather drain pipe, guess this is a tad more important tho!

Doubt you'd get 125 km tho!!!

Phil

Or you could have a long enough pipe to lift the end higher than the tank http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hi!
I didn't think f this problem till I was on the road. I got a 5ooml plastic coke bottle, cut it into a long handled ladle with the top as the 'bowl' of the ladle, the handle being the long side of the bottle. The tank has to be quite full and it takes a minute or two, but it works fine without pulling the pipes off the tank repeatedly which is messy and probably not good for the petrol pipe.
Matt

MSR or Sigg fuel bottle
 

As said above, the MSR or Sigg fuel bottles work the best for me. They come in a variety of sizes.

stove refilling
 

I have fitted both my fuel lines to the carbies with Touratech quick release hose couplings. I can then disconnect one of them and control the flow with the gas tap. Why both? The BMW tank is very easy to remove (for maintenance) and the quick disconnects make it even easier. Takes about 20 seconds to take the tank off without tools.

The QD hose sounds a good idea, trouble is the 650 Alp has an auto "tap" and is off or on with vacuum only, still fancy fitting a "Y" piece and run a length of hose with a bung, currently looking for a bung and (as someone mentioned) an inline tap for safety for an 8mm pipe. Any ideas????

For the time being I purchased a fuel priming bulb from ebay (£3.50) and a length of pipe, works OK but bulky.

Phil

I've been using a colemans stove for a few years and currently use a Trangia
1ltr fuel bottle. It has a good valve fitted to it. Carry a spare pump washer kit. They're cheap and nothing is more annoying than having fuel and not being able to get any pressure in the thing.