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NothingMan 13 Sep 2006 07:12

Bmw HP2 oversized fuel tank?
 
Just wondering if anyone has heard if anyone makes an oversized fuel tank for the bmw hp2?

AliBaba 13 Sep 2006 07:14

HPN is working on it, but it will take some time..

Gecko 14 Sep 2006 16:47

I don't get it ...? Why buy a stripped down light weight high power boxer and then weigh it down with an oversized heavy fuel tank ? If you are thinking of travelling you need to beef up the rearsubframe in a big way to take any luggage on it .....but then again some people travel round the world on a yamaha R1 so I guess whatever floats your boat.... :)

Atwoke 14 Sep 2006 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gecko
.....but then again some people travel round the world on a yamaha R1 so I guess whatever floats your boat.... :)

Just wondering...are you talking about Dutch Jacob in South America? He found that if you lower the tyre pressure enough to run on your rims the southern bolivian dirt tracks are still bad....:lol2:

Jens

SQD8R 6 Oct 2006 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gecko
I don't get it ...? Why buy a stripped down light weight high power boxer and then weigh it down with an oversized heavy fuel tank ? If you are thinking of travelling you need to beef up the rearsubframe in a big way to take any luggage on it .....but then again some people travel round the world on a yamaha R1 so I guess whatever floats your boat.... :)

When I went from a 20 litre to 33 litre tank, 12GS to 12GSA tank, the gain was about 10-15 pounds. Nothing, in the grand scheme of things. An HP2 13 litre tank to a 20 litre tank shouldn't be more than 10 pounds. Yet the range will equal the 12GS. I'm looking forward to one.

mr moto 16 Oct 2006 20:41

HP2 big tank
 
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i spotted this on the touratech stand at the intermot bike show in germany last week, it,s the new big tank for the HP2 . it will give the bike a range of 550 kilometres . it will be available in the 2007 touratech catalog. no mention of the price yet . I NEED AN HP2 ! . unfortunatly i just dont have the money ..

peter04 17 Oct 2006 16:51

You can't beat a bit of Touratech. You only have to think of what you want and sure enough they start to make it. Good firm but have lost a Bit of customer relations. As I have asked the UK branch to take some stuff to a UK show and ill pick it up next week,they said no as they could not store 3 small items. As I live in the UAE I thought this was a reasonable request, as touratech Germany have problems sending thing here. Oh well 10-15 years ago they might have.

Peter

AliBaba 7 Nov 2006 17:17

Hpn
 
Volum 23-24 litres, available from the end of November (inshallah'). A way of beefing up the frame is on it's way.


http://www.merje.de/hpn_tank2.jpg

http://www.merje.de/hpn_hp2.jpg

http://www.merje.de/hpn_tank.jpg

breste 5 Mar 2007 13:41

Hi Alibaba - great pics!!
 
Just read your thread on the oversized tank for the HP2. Do you have an HP2? Do you know what the tank will cost? I am from South Africa and have been riding an HP2 for just over a year. Amazing bike! Have designed a fairing for it which works fantastically! Better than ANY road bike (including touring bike) Now all I need is the tank.....

Ride safe and thanks for the pics - looks awesome. They (HPN) are difficult to get hold of though, and their website is impossible!!

Regards
Steve Breuninghttp://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ons/icon12.gif

Vaufi 5 Mar 2007 14:12

TT has got it in the 2007 catalogue. Check Touratech AG
Not the cheapest article on the market though ;-)
1,299 Euros - which is how many millions in SA Rand?

Hans

breste 5 Mar 2007 14:28

Hi Vaufi
 
Thanks for the info - saw it on the same posting a bit earlier but I think it is UGLY compared to the HPN and VERY overpriced!! (you are right - millions of SA rands.....) Hope the HPN price will be a bit more reasonable...??

Regards
Steve http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...cons/icon6.gif

AliBaba 5 Mar 2007 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by breste (Post 128761)
Just read your thread on the oversized tank for the HP2. Do you have an HP2? Do you know what the tank will cost? I am from South Africa and have been riding an HP2 for just over a year. Amazing bike! Have designed a fairing for it which works fantastically! Better than ANY road bike (including touring bike) Now all I need is the tank.....

No I don’t have a HP2, I was thinking of buying one but I decided to rebuild the old bike I have. It’s a nice bike but it needed to many mods to suite my needs:-(


Quote:

Originally Posted by breste (Post 128761)
Ride safe and thanks for the pics - looks awesome. They (HPN) are difficult to get hold of though, and their website is impossible!!

It’s best to call them. I haven’t been in contact with them for a while but I have heard that the tank is delayed and that it will show up on the web when it’s ready.

ukKev 5 Mar 2007 20:48

If your thinking of going anywhere remote you mite want to change the rear air shock as ive been told when they blow they leave the bike stranded sitting on the back wheel . My 1100gs rear standard shock blew off road in Senegal (it took loads of abuse off road in the desert in Mauritania fully loaded & carying & 70lts of fule & water ) was a 50mile ride to the highway (fall off potholes) & was like ridding o pogo stick or bucking bronco but it still got me home 4500mile .
Kev

Ian 6 Mar 2007 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukKev (Post 128804)
If your thinking of going anywhere remote you mite want to change the rear air shock as ive been told when they blow they leave the bike stranded sitting on the back wheel .

Have any HP2 owners any experience of the rear shock on their HP2 failing?

Thanks.

AliBaba 6 Mar 2007 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian (Post 128866)
Have any HP2 owners any experience of the rear shock on their HP2 failing?

Thanks.


PG Lundmark broke a shock somewhere in Africa. You can find it somewhere in his blog: High Performance Riding


Edit, found it:
From High Performance Riding :
"Finally I have to report that the bikes have been as reliable as atomic clocks. Consumption has been as low as 4,3 litres per 10 kilometres and the highest figures were 6,7 litres per 10 kilometres. The only mechanical problem, that we didn’t cause ourselves was a broken rear shock."

That sums up North Cape- South Cape in a hurry....

AliBaba 8 Mar 2007 11:05

Getting there, slowly...
 
The new HPN parts for HP2 are available.

Right now only German text and no prices.
HPN-Motorradtechnik GmbH


http://www.hpn.de/4V_boxer/HPN0007.jpg


http://www.hpn.de/4V_boxer/Verst-Welle.jpg

http://www.hpn.de/4V_boxer/HPN0020.jpg

Chris_York 10 Mar 2007 04:46

AfricanQueens - Spezialteile für Enduros und Reiseenduros. has tank+
Welcome to Jesse Luggage Systems has alu. panS.+
maybe there will be a HP2 Adventure... evolution R80 G/S... R100GS Dakar

Vaufi 10 Mar 2007 10:11

IMHO the air damping system is good for low weight, but for travelling I'd feel on the safer side with a normal shock. Never mind the additional weight, but if the seals break on the air shock, you're buggered. With a shock leaking oil you can carry on for hundreds of miles to get back to civilisation...

breste 13 Mar 2007 09:58

Thanks for info
 
[quote=AliBaba;129143]The new HPN parts for HP2 are available.

Thanks for the info. Will try and order as soon as possible but still no idea of price.... You must admit it looks nicer than touratech or Africanqueen tank!

Safe riding

Steve

gsworkshop 4 Apr 2007 08:34

HP2 Tank Shipping right now
 
HP2 tank from HPN is shipping at the moment. The price is just less than 1300.00 Euro. They have also manage to add all the HP2 items on the English site. You can check it out on hpn

muzz 11 Apr 2007 17:47

HP2 Tank
 
I'll be sticking a larger tank on my HP2. For the extra few pounds in weight, I'd rather have the choice. If I want light, I just won't fill it to the top! The4 HP2 is so much lighter than the New Adventure, I had both but just sold the Adventure, as it is a very heavy bike still......

gsworkshop 18 Apr 2007 23:46

HP2 Tank have arrived and is as nice as it looks on the images, maybe even nicer. Very well made with only high quality parts fitted.
Price EXCLUDING German VAT will be EURO1,239.00 and some cents.
Will have it fitted in two weeks time and shall post some images here.

gsworkshop 7 May 2007 21:09

Finally the tank is fitted and taking just under 24 litre to fill it is superbly balanced and keep the optic and handling of the HP2.

SQD8R 10 May 2007 13:23

Hi gsworkshop,

Any issues or complications with the installation? Anything you would do different to avoid issues? Thanks.

Dale

gsworkshop 10 May 2007 15:20

Installation as smooth as butter. Instructions is well written just a few small points omitted on less important stuff but eventually one figure this out for yourself. No modification needed and all clamps, nuts & bolts supplied to do the job well. Only hitch was that we broke the silly torx key supplied by BMW to loosen the HP2 seat.
One real useful piece of information is to use the small plastic rings below the white nylon spacers on the front mounting of the top cover. These are made to grip the bolt thread and keep everything together to aid the installation of the spacers hidden by the cover where it is impossible to hold them in place in any other way.
If you get stuck you can mail me as I took some pictures that will help clear up some points.
Even though I am sure it will help, you do not need to have the HP2 workshop manual or special tool to remove the large metal ring holding the fuel pump in place.

crash a-ron 10 May 2007 16:10

More pictures?
 
GS Workshop-

Do you have an idea when Klaus will start shipping tanks to the rest of us? I'm in the USA, so not only is it expensive to phone Klaus, I have to stay up into the very early hours of the morning to call when he's around...and to be honest, my German language skills are terrible.

Thanks a million for posting about the HPN tank- it is great to actually hear from someone who has actually touched the mythical HPN tank!

Any chance for more pictures?

Cheers-
Aaron
Seattle, USA
HP2 (hopefully with HPN tank soon!)
R80G/S (with HPN tank)

gsworkshop 11 May 2007 22:39

I am running out of of space to post more images, have to delete others to post more. Grant can't you grant me some more image space please?

You will just have to mail Klaus, I will send a message to anybody interested with his e-mail address. Be patient tough, and it is a good idea to resend your message if you did not get a reply in one week. Small company with real personal attention to their clients, problem is that they have more clients than they can handle so things does sometimes take time.

michael cummins 17 May 2007 13:12

hpn tank
 
looking forward to seeing more pics on the install. How long did u have to wait. I have like everyone else been sending faxes/emails with no reply as yet. Good to know how many kms you get out of the tank.
rgs
mike

gsworkshop 17 May 2007 14:00

Keep sending your mails, once Klaus is onto your order it does not take long but make sure you send a reminder every week or else your order might get to old and he does not get back to it at all.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A SMALL PRICE TO PAY FOR THE QUALITY OF WHAT THEY PRODUCE. The moment they start to expand their business and employ a 100 staff, quality drop and they will just become another TT or supermarket.

Terminal Tom 31 May 2007 07:45

Long range tanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by breste (Post 128761)
Just read your thread on the oversized tank for the HP2. Do you have an HP2? Do you know what the tank will cost? I am from South Africa and have been riding an HP2 for just over a year. Amazing bike! Have designed a fairing for it which works fantastically! Better than ANY road bike (including touring bike) Now all I need is the tank.....

Ride safe and thanks for the pics - looks awesome. They (HPN) are difficult to get hold of though, and their website is impossible!!

Hi Steve i recently purchased a set of carbon fibre long range tanks for my KTM from a company in SA.I dont know if they are manufacturing for the HP2 yet but here are their details.:thumbup1:

Simon Li
Down Town Cycles
downtowncycles@telkomsa.net
Tel(mobile) +27 (0)825739872
Fax +27 114025759


Regards
Steve Breuninghttp://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ons/icon12.gif

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gsworkshop 31 May 2007 16:59

Hi Tom
The tank I fitted was for Dr Steve Breuning, he will surely add a post here soon to tell us how the tank perform on longer trips.

Lo-IQ 21 Sep 2008 00:39

I've got one
 
and generally think it's the business...

not sure what else to say but the tank works a treat might even put a African Queen under seat tank on as well.

I've done the install myself and pictures can be found on the UKGSer* ::::* For BMW GS Enthusiasts site if you search for me. I'm sure you'll find it.

I also swapped the shocks and added progressive springs and now the bike is :funmeteryes:

oziexplorer 2 Oct 2008 15:57

The Africa Queens Tanks work OK
 
With 15L each side, plus OEM Tank = 43L.....
ALMOST my perfect bike; not quite there yet
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ding_Dam_9.jpg


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ding_Dam_8.jpg



http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...ing_Dam_10.jpg


http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...02AQTank12.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...P02AQTank3.jpg

muzz 25 Oct 2008 16:53

Nice one Ozi, I got the AQ tanks for mine. They are in Singapore at the moment, I'll be riding down from Bangkok next week to get em fitted, will post a few pix in a few weeks.... Safe riding cobber!

oziexplorer 20 Nov 2008 03:39

Thanks Muzz.
Could you please do me a favour and take a picture of the parts that come with your tanks ?
I think that mine were missing some parts, in particular, possibly an alloy bush/sleeve for the front (ie lower-front) mounting position of the tanks.
Also - check for gaskets between the fuel fittings that bolt onto the tank; both upper and lower, plus the central tank mount that's semi-circular in shape.

My fittings have since begun to leak, and have now caused all sorts of issues, as the fuel leaks onto the cylinders (Yuk!)

So, I recommend that you get some gaskets custom-made to ensure that this doesn't occur.

I found that the quick-disconnects tended to leak sporadically so I went to fuel line "barbs", that aren't quick disconnectable, but they will NOT leak when used with suitable hose clamps.

Also, DO NOT fill the tanks to the brim; they will siphon from the upper nito the lower tank when the bike's on the side-stand
Another owner on Adventure Rider Motorcycle Forum also mentioned to me that this also occurred with his bike, and the AQ guys don't publish it as a known issue.

If you're not going to put the bike onto the sidestand for the first 10L or so, then you could arguably get away with this issue.

The issue with the tanks is that they're low-volume-hand-built (very well, I might add), and some detailed finishing work was short-cut I think to get them out into the market.

Once you have the tanks sorted, it makes riding the bike a little more demanding in slow going, but then the trade-off is that you're not worrying about fuel range.

With all the brackets, etc installed, it only takes about 15-30 minutes to install the tanks, so you don't have to have them on the bike if you're ionly doing short runs (around 180-220km; depending on your right wrist....)

I'm now looking for a nice "clean" saddle-bag mounting system for my HP2.

I'll be checking back to see how yours come up.

Cheers,
Dave

george t 20 Nov 2008 14:06

overheating?
 
guys what is your experience with the AQ tank / HPN tank and cooling / overheating of the HP2.

I have the standard tank and my bike temp. go to Max when I hit traffic after a good run on the motorway (durring the summer).

The AQ tank appears to restrict airflow on the side mounted (under the side tank) oil cooler,

The HPN tank comes with a repositioned oil cooler..does that work better?

I have also seen a thread (on ADV rider) on fitting two oil coolers on the HP2 (the second oil cooler is from the Mega Moto.. ) anyone tried this?

could you share your experience on the impact of the fuel tanks on the cooling system.

thanks

g

oziexplorer 21 Nov 2008 02:45

As yet, I haven't experienced any cooling temperature issues using the AQ Tanks.
They do look like they close it all in, but in actual fact, the design of the tanks allows for wind to be directed into the tank/frame/engine cavity

Felixzip 25 Dec 2012 00:35

A question...!!
 
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Does anybody knows which manufacture does this gas tank for HP2 E please..!
Attachment 9098

anonymous1 26 Dec 2012 23:56

HP2 Tanks & Bits
 
G'day Felix,


I bought a HP2 Enduro in May 2012 (Absolutley love it !) After 10,000 K's in all terrain and reading up on as much as possible. I too have been looking at larger tanks as well as other bit's n pieces to get it a more ergonomic. I also like the look of the tank you posted and have spent hours searching the net as I imagine you have for the maker without luck.

George T's remark on overheating is a valid one, I also experienced high temp's in traffic on hot days (lost again) I think the HPN tank with the repositioned oil radiator (30% cooler or so they claim) is a damn good option albeit an expensive one.

I've come up with a list of mods I would like to do and I do understand these are personal choices.

HPN Tank & radiator.
Megamoto or sport gauges with taco.
Change the stock final drive ratio: From 2.82 to 2.91 possibly 3.0.
Full Arkrapovic exhaust system.
Ohlins or White power back n front.
Screen & heated grips.
Panniers & rack with rear frame support.

Then again (Yes I can just about hear some of your thoughts) it would be cheaper to buy a used GS and leave it stock standard !

Cheers Dave

george t 7 Jan 2013 16:45

hi HP2ers


in respect of the larger fuel tanks for the HP2 I had been looking around the options for a while and I think the HPN is the better option.

The touratech option (and I think the AQ is similar) is basically two side fuel tanks that link to the main one, great idea as you can potentially take them on and off depending on your requirements.

In practise people have told me that it is a bit fidly to use and there is always a leak in the system of fuel connectors (between the three tanks)

I have seen the HPN fuel tank is all HP2 conversions here in the UK and nobody seems to complain about it.

I haven't got a large fuel tank, simply because the trip I was thinking and planning never happened and I traveled all through eastern europe (and as far as turkey) with the stock fuel tank and a five litre plastic jerry in my tail pack (touratech soft tail pack for HP2) which I only had to use once or twice.

If I was going on a trip now I would consider the underseat tank conversion which is much cheaper than the HPN but it only gives additional 6 to 7 lit.


In terms of other changes on the HP2, I have the following:
Wilbers rear shock and front progressive springs,
Akrapovic exchaust and remus headers
Wunderlich screen
Unifilter - air and pre filter
Touratech tail rack, sump guard, oil cooler protectors,

I would like:
auxhilary spot light pref. an LED
led tail light and indicators
upgraded forks, either new cartridges (options from ohlins and marzochi) or new WP 48 or even Marzochi 45 gold, forks

or even change the HP2 for a twin 800cc to 1100+cc Dual purpose or offroader that is lighter than the HP2 (don't think it exists yet)

HunSolo 23 Jan 2013 04:53

HP2 mystery tank
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felixzip (Post 405142)
Does anybody knows which manufacture does this gas tank for HP2 E please..!
Attachment 9098

The tank pictured is made by Boano in Italy. It carries 7 US gallons of fuel, looks good, is flimsy fiberglass, takes some funky plumbing to unite the three chambers, was built for the Megamoto for use with an attached front fairing, is I believe no longer available, and is probably not the best use of your money. I have one that needs a little work if you simply won't be discouraged.

george t 8 Sep 2015 22:06

Two and a half years later, I wonder how many of us still travel their HP2s. ???

HunSolo 29 Nov 2015 10:20

Still lots of dedicated HP2 riders. I can't imagine the day when I don't have one. What a bike!

Leolou 6 Aug 2020 11:18

African Queens Tank HP2
 
Hi,
it's a long this post is sleeping.
I m the owner of an AFQ tank but without install diagram or photos it's very hard if someone can help me it will be great.
Thank you

Leolou 6 Aug 2020 11:44

AFQ
 
Ozie if you have any pictures of your install?

berin 26 Aug 2020 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leolou (Post 613467)
Hi,
it's a long this post is sleeping.
I m the owner of an AFQ tank but without install diagram or photos it's very hard if someone can help me it will be great.
Thank you


Have you contacted AQ? They are still there and may be able to send you some fitting instructions.


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