1150GS final drive bearing
 

as you may have read on another thread our super reliable BM (no laughing simmo)as thrown its guts from the final drive bearing. we are now holed up in Comodora Rivadavia, Argentina trying to get the bike to BA.

any hints and tips on replacing this will be gladly received.

by the way Chris Scott...before you reply with some useless info, please note its not my lardy arse that´s caused it but a BMW design fault.

saw a nice KTM 950 in black the other day, it uses a chain for its final drive system....how practical is that ?

Goggs,

Saw your post on www.gsclubuk.net first. See my reply there....

Good luck

Richard

www.eastofthesun.co.uk

Hi sober ones

The schwinehundt de alec is at least 10,000kms away, surely the antique cant spread its evil spirits that far.

I believe the solution is to stuff a rag in the top of the petrol tank and light it....this will ensure no future final drive failures and no further encounters with teutonically efficient Bullshit Miracle Workers.

I was going to say you burn yours and I'll burn mine....then I though about that Welsh soccer fan that cut off his own gonads last week, so You burn yours and I'll say why didnt you fix it!

As for the chain drive, they are just so inconvenient, I mean why lube when you could rebuild!

BMW owners psychological support (BOPS) group is with you!

I suppose you could always drink lots and sing that ..on blarney moor where the twatty ducks fly backwards while viewing topless birds...song

If I can do something let me know....like watch phil do one and relay the details.

Bugger

alec

Would you say that old Simmo is... how shall I put it...all right?
Anxiously,
John

I wish he had been a soccer fan. It was something altogether more serious.

Seriously, though, what's all this about this guy who cut off his gonads? Seems a little rash, surely?
John http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/confused.gif

Some fella from Caerphilly said that if Wales beat England he´d cut his wedding tackle off. They did and so did he. I´m Welsh and was very happy, but um....well you know... not that happy/drunk/mental.

I guess you must be travelling then John?

Bet he's feeling a c**t. In fact, every time he goes for a pee...

Sorry.

No, not travelling at the moment, just doing the bike up: front end- forks, cast iron discs, lines, calipers, alternator, timing chain. Oh, and carbs. '82 airhead. All being well, though, South of France and Italy in a week or so.

Tell me- something else I don't quite understand here- you're Welsh Bob as well as Spanish Bob?

Cofion

John

PS Hey, Simmo, I've just done a search on the lines of your little ditty and was connected to an adult search site (INTERESTING!) but didn't find anything on it. How does it go- it sounds intriguing- go on, tell us, do!
J

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PS
I'm forgetting, how are things with the bike, goggstrotters? I hope things are improving.

Best wishes

John

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decisions, decisions......cut off my nads ?, set fire to the bike ?.....

used my last match when i started smoking so the fire bit is over..

as for my nads....perhaps i could cut them off and install them into the final drive bearing to replace the already worn out and shattered balls...i´m sure they would prove more reliable and durable than the ones that those ´bad motorcycle workers´ use.

the other option is to convert the all back end with a chain drive system, thereby making it more reliable, lighter, cheaper and easier to spot the encroaching imminent destruction.

i should not be bitter and twisted...only had 3 adjustments to paralever bearings, 4 oil leaks, 1 paralever bearing replacement and 1 collapsed bearing in 75000km...that equates to only 3 good quality chain sets.

then again everything was fine untill the bike spent time living next to the 'messenger from hell..100GS' of simmos in Istanbul...ever since then i have been followed around by black crows with 666 tattoed on their heads.

the bike hasn´t arrived by hearse yet so all my problems may be over before i know it....TBC

Now John be'en from wales I'd a taut youd knewed all bout ta self circumcision guy....is it possible to type in a welsh accent or do I just leave out the vowels..b'n frm wls y'd knwd l'bt tht....starting to remember that little ditty.

Got excited that my web page had been hijacked by a p**nstar when I first read your post...but no just the usual html stuff ups ..you were referring to the little song. Then i realised we have hijacked the goggstroters post in the BMW tech section, the consequences shall be grave.

Dont know the words I am afraid, the last time I heard it was when a couple of Yorkshire men were staggerring back to my place indulging in their cultural heritage, one of whom knows very well who he is! my head still hurts...But I am sure a friendly yorkshire man should be able to sing it for you, probably while making jokes about the intelligence of rugby fans..mistake noted.

BTW Bob a forein R80 was heading to Melbourne about 300ks from town it seems the gearbox has lunched it..maybe the schwindhundt de alec's evil spirits are omnipresent, then again it could be the schwindhundt de ralphino that is causing your problems...where's the stake? we need to burn that one..oh! someone has already.

which leads to a nice segway....

So how is the steak in Comodora Rivadavia? has anyone actually helped you yet? Hows your better half?

cheers

alec

http://users.netlink.com.au/~asimpson


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Goggs, before I get totally paranoid about final drive bearing trouble, how many k's did you have up on your bike before it's rear end crapped itself?

Well Big Red....

and i hope you are referring to the desert here, if you park it next to mine I expect you might not make it back to Torquay!
Nice to see the psychological effects of BMW ownership starting in the planning stage...

alec

hey big red, i just got myself signed out of re-hab and i can confirm that all i did was wheel the bike out of the showroom.....¿¿

if i can be serious though the bike had done only 75000km, albeit most of it fully loaded, with some rough roads thrown in for good mearsure.

after researching the web i have found this to be common problem, even on some bikes with only 10-15000 km. the only thing to do is to carry a spare bearing and seal...or cut off your nads and set fire to them.

look at this poor sod (Not my bike)

http://img78.exs.cx/img78/6213/whoops2kc.jpg

talk about final drive trouble!

*image stolen from http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.za/lifest...ult.asp?Id=303

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Thanks Goggs, I think I can relax.
OK, I think that Simmo should write his name on his bike in big letters to make sure I don't accidentally park next to the rotten mongrel and catch it's filthy diseases. Yuk!
I'm on my fifth BM now, all of which I've admittedly flogged before getting up to 70,000 k's, and I haven't had a final drive bearing problem yet, (apart from the last one, an R1100S, which had a shaft drive problem at around 35,000k's, sadly enough, a few weeks after the new owner bought it. Not sure if it was the final drive bearing though.)
It hadn't given any signals of trouble previously, (honestly!) and I have heard that it was the result of being packed with the wrong kind of grease from new. It wasn't a huge or expensive problem at home, but I can imagine it being a drama on the road somewhere a long way northeast of Nar-Nar Goon.

And, Goggs, I can imagine that being stuck in Argentina with a buggared final drive bearing is a complete pain in the wherever, but it can't be bad enough to cut off any gonads, no matter who wins the futbal. I'm sure that your Espanol is improving, anyway.
Have you got it sorted yet?

Grant

forgot to mention it on this post but it´s in another.....

bike is sorted out, Javier of ´Dakar Motos´, part of HU community here in BA was fantastic, we did it together and after 5 hours, lunch in a restuarant and again attempts of liking ´mate´ we got the ole girl rolling again.

if you run an 1150 my suggestions are....change oil every 10000km (or earlier as you wish, only 250ml of oil) and avoid using synthetic oil. mineral is the one to go for EP90, it´s cheap and the recommended one.

hey simmo me old cocker spaniel, i´ve been experiencing that strange phenomomon of the back end of the bike wanting to go anti-clockwise and overtake the front on loose surfaces....the same thing you experienced in the snow of eastern turkey....i believe it to be the demonic spirits of the cardon god exorcising itself to corrupt any BMW virgin who should come near.

"He who wishes to see a demon should take the after-birth of a black she-cat, the offspring of a black she-cat, the first-born of a first-born, roast it in the fire, pulverize it, then fill his eyes with it, and he will see a demon. He must pour the powder into an iron tube and seal it with an iron signet, lest he come to harm."..... or ride a BMW.

simmo, lets face it your bike is posesed....first drown the beast within and then burn it, BOPS will help you dislodge the demons within you

A place where the drink is called "mate" fantastic, having a few mates with your mates...hic.

As for the schwindhunt I will have to get Tres Mon onto the job!

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb...ML/000596.html



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Hi Goggs

If you could have waited till yesterday you wouldn't have gone short of nads, we beat Ireland, we won the Six Nations and we won the Grand Slam.

Yeeee haa. 'Tydi'r sgwâr ddim digon mawr i hogia ni!

Just thought I'd mention it.

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/biggrin.gif John http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Yeah, 1150 and especially 1200 have more unreliable finals.

Old trick on 1100GSes is to change final drive oil every engine-oil change interval - every 10K kilometres. And i've seen the 1100GS that has 250K miles on the clock with stock final drive. Maybe this method helps on 1150 too? It's really easy and cheap to do it yourself, and i change gearbox oil at the same intervals too.

Cheers, Margus

still here in Buenos Aires, a genuine oil seal from england arrived today and still oil flows freely !!

any ideas what might be causing this to continue leaking ??....i will check the bevel box breather again tomorrow to see if it is clear, apart from that i´m lost on ideas.

off for some vodka now, it´s all i can think of doing!!

Vaat you neeed iz ze spezial toolz bob! Rang Phil the local Schwinhundt expert. He said that you must make sure the seal goes in dead flat. Its a tight fit so he had a special tool made to do it...which you probably dont have...he said if you put it in on an angle it wont work and you will have to fit a new seal..woops another hunderd dollars and 2 weeks...Make sure what ever you are using to seat it is very flat, otherwise it may not be seated correctly. Pulling it back out and refitting it usually stuffs the seal.

i suggested running a nice glob of slastic around the edges but that was met with the usual mechanics cry of stunned silence and references to geese and my being one!

Long Live the O-Ring chain.

Watched a mate throw away a 998 testastretta in a bears race on the weekend, last lap, last corner, dicing for 1st....they come apart quite easily!

Apple juice chasers go quite well with vodka and it makes being smashed feel healthy.

Oh and is it true that the final drive bearing in an 1150 is the same as that in an R75? If it is i am sure that it will provide BOPS with some more ammo.

good luck

alec

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