What Car/4x4 ??? Help
 

hello there im sure this is an oldy but here we go!! I want to do a trip to south america of around a year i like go get off the beaten track but im not one off there people who gets lost in the jungle and starts eating monkey to survive!! hehe i should thinnk it be better a 4x4 because i do like the dirt!! but my budget is not the bigget and i rather spend the money on petrol/diesel than a expensive car!!! also important is it likekly to get spares for the car!! i have had a few thoughts: land cruiser the old ones, land rove? suzuki samurai, panda 4x4. anything will do as long as it last, not to expensive (€4000-5000) what do you think?? thank you

TOYOTA Hilux - Diesel -no contest:thumbup1: but then I'm biased, I've got one - Diesel deffo 4 Africa- Sth America don't know -
Giving 32mpg, a pickup so can sleep in the back- a ton load carrying capacity- tried and tested engines and transmissions- I trust mine-
Landy owners - please, no pelting!:blushing:

Given your criteria that seems pretty good advice and I don’t have one so I’m not biased:thumbup1:
Rust is the only major killer of HiLux’s IMHO. Have no knowledge of spares availability in South America though.

Suzuki. Amazing things off road, simple, robust, cheap. But absolutely horrible to travel any sort of distance in:funmeterno:

Pajero
 

how about a mitzubishi pajero late 80's modle is that any good saw a couple of them quite cheap but nobod seems to mention them??

You know, it doesn't really matter, as long as it's not too 'new'. The less electronics the better, no computer, no electronic fuel injection and you'll pretty much be right in anything...

The Zapps travelled all of South America in a Graham Page from 1928, reasonable ground clearance but 2wd, wooden spokes in the wheels and a top speed of 50km/hour...

woow
 

thats amazing what they did!!! might read the book!!! love the old car

stirring
 

And avoid Landrovers like the plague. They're RUBBISH!

Now, now Mark:nono:

You love it really !!:clap:

You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment:thumbup1:

diesel
 

hello there guys great replyes so far!! i have another quiestion witch popped up??? disel is it:thumbup1: or :thumbdown::stormy:for south america???? is it good to get to??? can anyone tell me the rough prices??? any answere to any question i'd be grateful thanxx

citroen c15
 

hello there guys!! been looking at a cotroen c15 disel!! they are cheap got plenty of space in the back!! and there archaic build means that it be aasy to fix?? anyone got one or knows some storys about them or any onether citronen!!1 be happy to hear from you guys!!!

I have no idea about the citreon, but the key thing is to check to see how common they are in S. America.

With your budget you are probably better off trying to contact some people in S. America and then aim to buy a vehicle over there - that way you save on shipping costs and also by getting a local vehicle you can ensure that you can get local parts.

Didn't Dangel do a 4X4 Citroen C15? I know they're archaic but they do seem to last for ever. And with a production run from 1984-2005, I guess there's plenty of spares, both new and scondhand still available.

I found a Brazilian page with the C15 on so that'd suggest they're in some parts of South America. Chile has its own Citroën plant, they used to produce a modified 2CV, so I imagine they were available there too. And I've seen photos of Visas in Ecuador and Uruguay too. I guess being a cheap and rugged vehicle they made sense for SA roads.


I've got a book somewhere about a round the world trip made in a bunch of Citroën Visa 4X4's for France 3 (I think) and as the C15 is a Visa van. Well it suggests it's very do-able. When I'm back at home I'll look up the title if you'd like, there's stuff in there on the vehicle preparation.

Oh and Citroën Visa, Axel, LNA and C15. Citroen 's small cars of the eighties. might be of use.

Brilliant little van with an excellent diesel. Visavision

I expect the 4x4 is horribly rare, better to go with weight-stripping and underbody plating to get offroad capability. Maybe taller tires and a little lift?

If you are going for 'small and French' you could look at picking up a R4 van in Columbia (i think they were made there?) another awesome mini.

The EdF round here in Brittany had a whole load of the 4x4's, but they seem to have disappeared recently, I guess all sold off. The ground clearance doesn't seem bad on the standard though, I'd guess with different tyres it wouldn't be bad.

When did they stop making the R4? I thought it was early 90's? The perk of the C15 would be the fact they only ceased production 4 years ago, so spares should be available.

Admittedly you would need more motivation than practicality to go for a R4... but what a car! I don't think spares would be a problem in SA judging from their past prevalence. You could also nestle in the bosom of local enthusiasts, so to speak.

But yes, C15 - a good van.

Hi there,

observing from the saddle of my motorcycle for the last 11 months in central and south america (Colombia, Equador and Peru till Lima), i definetly would take a toyota hilux pickup. They're everywhere! And toyota dealers all over.

It seems as common as an enfield in India. well not that common, but close...

suerte,
Sander

Definitely, every year at the school I used to teach in then students would raise money to equip one and then head off in convoy to Morocco for a rallye raid, distributing school equipment as they went. It was called the Quatre Ailes, a French pun.

Sorry I am late to the party, but I choose Toyota Hilux or landcruiser HANDS DOWN! They are plentiful. Parts are easy to come by, and rarely would you need parts. My buddy actually just flew down and bought one that was half way kitted the way he wanted and took off. When he was done, he gave to a very grateful family and flew home.

preparation for citroen c15
 

hello there im quite settled on the idea of a c15 i have had a look on south americas ebays (or something similar at least) and there are plenty for spares i should think!!! now my attention goes to the preparation im gonna be building a bed in the back and some space for storage auto of wood!! so its gonna add some wheight af around 150 to 200 kg!! now to my quiestion does anyone have an idea if its needed to upgrade suspension or got some better tyres for south america!! i wnt to get a bit of the beaten track but not to much!!! thank you!!!