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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the fact that the engine is water cooled yet. That's the biggest beef I've got with mine. It hasn't failed yet but I wouldn't trust something with the ability to leak to cool my engine. Air is everywhere - worst case you take a break and wait for it to cool down. Water, once it's gone it's gone and that ain't gonna happen right next to a well with a Yamaha dealership attached to it. Also: the stock seat is the worst thing I've ever put my arse on. It started to hurt after less than an hour, after half a day in the saddle my legs and shoulders were starting to get numb. Get it replaced asap.

I've bought a red 2009 model last year, which has replaced the R1200GSA I've owned for a year. Before that I've had a 3AJ that I absolutely loved. Since we ride two-up with my wife I must say that I very much like the twin discs. Compared to the 3AJ's single disc it's an enormous improvement, but I can see how riding solo would render them unnecessary. I haven't had any other problems with it yet but it's still too new. One thing I know for sure: the also brand-new GSA started to rust after about a month, which was the main reason why I got rid of it it after a year, and there's no rust on the Tenere yet. Totally unrelated piece of advice: when dealing with BMW never approach them personally but get a lawyer right away. Those f******ds tried to convince me the rust on a brand-new GSA was my own fault since I wasn't washing the bike often enough.

Anyway, back to topic. I didn't like the plastic either when I first saw the bike but like many here have said: it's capable of doing pretty much anything, even two-up, with only minor modifications. Height isn't an issue for me (6'2"), and neither is weight - after all it's somewhere between 150-200 pounds less than the GSA. When travelling two-up it's massively overloaded anyway. I also don't mind the exhaust pipe and don't think the engine is too weak. Great mileage, between 50-60 mpg US.
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Well I love mine, apart from the seat which is bloody awful..... I bought a second hand seat & had it reprofiled .... haven't had much time to try it out yet...



But I've owned a 3AJ in the past (my favourite Tenere) & I am currently rebuilding 3 3AJ's (yeah I know)..... I also own a 660 4YF Tenere...... the new Ten is far superior a machine to all of the previous Ten's ... If I was going on a long ride somewhere it'd be the new 'un.... & when I do my trip to Timbuktu.... (next year I hope) I'll be taking the new one......

However, I wouldn't swap any of me 3AJ's for one.... noooo way
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Hello to all,
Guys I’m new in this forum. I have been reading some of the opinions about the XT660Z .. And I think all of you have are quite right J)) ..
I had XT660Z 08’ last year.. I was thinking of getting KTM 990Adv (my mate has got KTM950.. and almost every time I call him he answers from garage – repairing .) .. hence it looks like I’m going to stick to XT and I think I’m going to buy it back again..
My last Tenere was fairly new and I did not have any issues with it.. (bought it on 3000- sold it on 7000miles)
I heard that Tenere’s may suffer from electric problems..
Can please someone tell me what they are (or/and any other ‘likely to happen’ issues..)? The bike I’m getting should be 98-99 again fairly new..
Just would like to do some sort of check list before my holiday starts. Hoping that the list will not be too long J))
BTW: Is anyone going down South for ride? (Spain, Portugal in the Summer?)
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This post was originally about the xt660z/x (new version), not the xtz660 (old tenere)

I've ridden a 1992, and I think theyre great for gravel and offroad"touring" Havent really head about any specifik problems with them, at all. Well actually, the fairing is made of some crisp plastic, that easely brakes when crashing. But thats the only thing.

A friend of mine owns the 19920 one I've tried, and it have around 90.000km on it, and got a new piston and cam chain last summer. We suspect it has actually run 190.000km, as my xt600 (2003) have 86.000km on it, and no oiluse, pistonslab or anyhting,and I use mine for everything.

<10.000miles is NOTHING for theese bikes.

You hear everyone say that their kind of bike is indestructabel, and very reliable, but I really truly believe this to be true for the whole "XTxxx" series.
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I agree matey..
Also if someone wants to blame these bikes – he should also point out what else (better) is on the market according to him.. talking about new motorbikes. I can’t think of better bike..
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I love mine. Yes I could have brought something else with the money I have spent on it but as I have said in other forums, it would not be a Tenere. This one is my thrid.

The main things I have done is the suspension, excels and exhaust. The rest of my mods are because I could afford to and have made it mine. As someone else has said, I too was looking at a 990 but I am forever happy with the Ten.

While I have a few more things to do to it, GPS, UHF and such, here she is,
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Pretty much decided now to go for the Ten; just looking out for a decent priced one (lots of used ones on ebay seem like silly money!). Of all the bikes I have been considering, it is always the Ten which keeps putting it's hand up.
AussieMasada: what exhausts are you using? Is it a 2 into 1 set up? Any other tips for putting it on a diet? Cheers.
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Pretty much decided now to go for the Ten; just looking out for a decent priced one (lots of used ones on ebay seem like silly money!). Of all the bikes I have been considering, it is always the Ten which keeps putting it's hand up.
AussieMasada: what exhausts are you using? Is it a 2 into 1 set up? Any other tips for putting it on a diet? Cheers.
I have had no regrets with mine and I hope you find one soon. I am using a single can from TK Exhaust in Australia. Terry Kelly hand makes them and I dont think you can fault his service or product, 10/10. As far as diet goes, have a look at JMo Heroes Legend build on both ADV and XT660.

The mods I have done have made the Ten the perfect bike for ME and as I am a shit rider, made it much more capable than I ever will be.
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Pretty much decided now to go for the Ten; just looking out for a decent priced one (lots of used ones on ebay seem like silly money!). .
Yeah !! That's the reason there isn't one in my garage.. The used prices are VERY high.. Unrealistically so.. I certainly see a lot of Ebay been relisted and relisted over and over. You expect to lose at least 17.5% - 20% of the price immediately when you buy a bike new (You lose the VAT) and some people are only prepared to lose this after 3 years of ownership...

Yamaha should throw a 0-3% interest finance deal on this again and i'm sure it will start selling again from new. If it was still the introductory price, I think I would buy one (£1000 cheaper)

There obviously aren't a lot about second hand hence the high prices... I reckon the prices will CRASH in a year or two though when people realise they aren't shifting that well...
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<10.000miles is NOTHING for theese bikes.
You hear everyone say that their kind of bike is indestructabel, and very reliable, but I really truly believe this to be true for the whole "XTxxx" series.
I agree with Jens.
If you want to compete or ride not far from civilization one might choose KTM690Enduro. It is lighter, stronger, with far more better suspension and brakes.

but

If you are riding alone in the desert and your life depends on reliability of your bike the choice (at least for me) is one: xt. I reckon that the XT660Z Tenere is not an exception in above mentioned matter. I have made 90k on xt660x and did nothing but regular maintenance.

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If Yamaha built the new Tenere just how WE would like it, it would be slammed down by the biking press and most of its owners for being overpriced and too dedicated.

The reality is, the people who buy these bikes very rarely do any real overland travel on it. They like it to "look" overland and for to do okay on a farmers track when they go camping at the weekend and be well behaved and reliable for some biking holidays.... That's the real market !!

Make it more hardcore and capable for hardcore over landing and it just wouldn't sell because it would be too expensive.

Like Dick says, it would be a dream if they released different versions with better suspension, lighter components etc but again, it's too expensive because only about 10 people would buy it. The REAL overland market is still far too small...

In the motorcycle industry, if you want a a bike to ride off-road you buy a dirt bike, if you want a bike to go road touring on, you buy one of those !

I think the 660 Tenere is a good bike and probably the closest thing to an "out of the crate" overland bike there is at the moment.. You can't have it all in one package !!
I think you wrong on this one Ted

The new Tenere ticks all the boxes. the suspension is good for the price of the Bike and it still copes at 70mph off road with no real problems.

does two up touring with luggage and still returns 70plus to the gallon.

This will be the bike we use for our south Americian Trip.


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I think you wrong on this one Ted

The new Tenere ticks all the boxes. the suspension is good for the price of the Bike and it still copes at 70mph off road with no real problems.

does two up touring with luggage and still returns 70plus to the gallon.

This will be the bike we use for our south Americian Trip.

ahhhhh don't get me wrong on this Dazzer.. I LOVE the 660 Tenere. I think it's the best thing out of the box at the moment and It will be the next bike I own.

But no one can say that the designers/money men sat down at a table and said "Lets make a bike which is purpose built to conquer the third world"

There's loads of things which could be improved on the Tenere to tick even more boxes. But it would make it too expensive and too dedicated for it's target audience. For a start, its VERY heavy and the suspension is budget (but yes capable).

At a guess, 9/10 Tenere's never make it out of their own county, let alone country. Just look at all the models for sale on Ebay/Autotrader. Low mileage, no scraches, lots of fancy touratech bolt ons etc.

It's a fine bike and I'm grateful that Yamaha did as much as they did with it because I don't think it really makes them a lot of money.
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Well, I did eventually buy a second hand, low mileage '09 a few months ago. Took it around Europe last month and it performed very well, did everything I asked of it from long boring motorway stretches to tight twisty alpine roads to a steep, rocky, rooty hiking track (long story). Never complained, never missed a beat. Gave me the confidence to ride it to Malaysia next year.
I am not saying it is the best bike out there, but for me at this time for my purposes, it is the best bike for me. It seems no matter what bike you research (and I researched a lot before buying the Ten), all of them have "issues" to some degree. For me, the Ten ticked most of my boxes and the rest can be added and the "issues" cheaply and easily remedied.
I think it is a great bike, and I wouldn't change it for anything else right now. If you feel the same about your BMW / DRZ / KLR / KTM etc. etc. that is great. Wouldn't it be boring if everybody rode the same bike?
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At a guess, 9/10 Tenere's never make it out of their own county, let alone country. Just look at all the models for sale on Ebay/Autotrader. Low mileage, no scraches, lots of fancy touratech bolt ons etc.


I put this down to a Lot of these bikes were sold to first time buyers, who wanted a Adventure Style Bike.

Thus The reasion for so many low mileage fully loaded ones for sale.

This work's in our favour

I bought my Tenere when it was 18 months old with only 2800 miles on the clock and it was fully loaded with BLING. The chap I bought it from had moved on to a Real Adventure Bike { His Words } a BMW

I paid £3900 for it then sold all the Bling which I had no use for. I Then fitted a better engine guard and pannier frames. I end up with £3500 in a less than 2 year old bike with under 3000 miles. Perfect
It's now almost 3 years old and as covered over 17.000 miles and still on the original C and S

Cheap to run and fun to ride at a real world price

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At a guess, 9/10 Tenere's never make it out of their own county, let alone country. Just look at all the models for sale on Ebay/Autotrader. Low mileage, no scraches, lots of fancy touratech bolt ons etc.


I put this down to a Lot of these bikes were sold to first time buyers, who wanted a Adventure Style Bike.

Thus The reasion for so many low mileage fully loaded ones for sale.

This work's in our favour

I bought my Tenere when it was 18 months old with only 2800 miles on the clock and it was fully loaded with BLING. The chap I bought it from had moved on to a Real Adventure Bike { His Words } a BMW

I paid £3900 for it then sold all the Bling which I had no use for. I Then fitted a better engine guard and pannier frames. I end up with £3500 in a less than 2 year old bike with under 3000 miles. Perfect
It's now almost 3 years old and as covered over 17.000 miles and still on the original C and S

Cheap to run and fun to ride at a real world price

Dazzer
You just summed up why I'm going to buy one

You're gonna have a blast in South America.
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