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*Touring Ted* 16 Jul 2007 15:30

XTZ 750 Super Tenere - Discuss
 
Hey all.

Iv been looking for a second bike. Something better on the tarmac for commuting etc. I want to keep my XT600E as pretty as possible before its long trek.

Well iv been looking at the 750 Super Teneres. I dont know much about them so any info would be great.

Looking at a 1991 with 30k miles for about £1000.

As reliable as the XT600 ? Good road bike ??

Alfow 16 Jul 2007 15:52

Super tens
 
I had a 1990 with 28000 miles, stainless system, braided hoses and tall screen. I bought it with no tax or mot for £500, straight through the mot, happy days.

I used it all the way round ireland, just under 2000 miles over 2 weeks, 2 up fully loaded with rain every day!

Fantastic bike in my opinion, fast (130), smooth and comfortable. Rode from anglessey to Swindon in one hit, approx 400 miles, only stopping for fuel and was able to walk at the other end!

Fuel economy isn't great but it depends on how you are riding and what you are carrying of course. They are known to have problems with the emulsion tubes in the carbs causing poor starting and bad economy. Simple enough to fix, £45 and half a day if you are a bit useful. Also valves need shimming around 30k, depends on how it has been ridden and looked after but worth checking if they've been done.

All in all i'd reccomend one, much cheaper than an africa twin and just as useful. Probably not the best thing off road unless you are big enough to tell it what to do, heavy with a full tank.

Wish i'd never sold mine!

oldbaldrick 19 Jul 2007 10:44

Excellent bike.
Early models are known to have voltage regulator problems. They use a small unit (similar to the XT600 E) bolted to an alluminium heat-sink under the L/H side panel. From about 1994/5 they used a bigger, finned unit (similar to many other bikes - CB250 Super Dream etc) under the seat. It's easy to upgrade to this later type with a small mounting frame and by extending the wires.
Haggle the price and enjoy.

crashbroonie 19 Jul 2007 23:20

From a newbie!
 
Hi just joined the HUB buthtis post struck a chord with me as i've owned a super-ten and an xt600e. I bought my 600e and had many happy miles on her. When I met my partner back in 1994 I decided I needed more power for 2-up touring and so bought the Super-ten.

The 750 is a great bike with plenty of power and will cruise happily at 110 mph, it's also quite flickable in the twisties BUT, after owning many more bikes since then, from Ducati Monsters to BMW1100's, the one that still tugs at my biker heart strings is the xt600. It's just so flexible and easy to throw around and for me that compensates for the lack of top end power. As others have already said, just sit back and relax, so what if it takes another half hour to get there, the experience is everything! OR a I just getting old?!!! (Don't answer that).

Seriously tough the XTZ750 is agood bike but for me, it is not as consumate as the XT600e. I am selling my brand new (6 month old) Bandit 650 because I want to but another xt600e, I wan't a real bike again. Power isn't everything!

Walkabout 19 Jul 2007 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashbroonie (Post 144124)
Hi just joined the HUB buthtis post struck a chord with me as i've owned a super-ten and an xt600e. I bought my 600e and had many happy miles on her. When I met my partner back in 1994 I decided I needed more power for 2-up touring and so bought the Super-ten.

The 750 is a great bike with plenty of power and will cruise happily at 110 mph, it's also quite flickable in the twisties BUT, after owning many more bikes since then, from Ducati Monsters to BMW1100's, the one that still tugs at my biker heart strings is the xt600. It's just so flexible and easy to throw around and for me that compensates for the lack of top end power. As others have already said, just sit back and relax, so what if it takes another half hour to get there, the experience is everything! OR a I just getting old?!!! (Don't answer that).

Seriously tough the XTZ750 is agood bike but for me, it is not as consumate as the XT600e. I am selling my brand new (6 month old) Bandit 650 because I want to but another xt600e, I wan't a real bike again. Power isn't everything!


Crashbroonie,
Welcome to the HUBB, there someone had to be first to say that to you!:welcome:

Ted,
That's the answer then; stick with the XT600 (and the car that you mention elsewhere!) and save even faster toward the big journey!!

*Touring Ted* 20 Jul 2007 02:36

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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 144129)
Crashbroonie,
Welcome to the HUBB, there someone had to be first to say that to you!:welcome:

Ted,
That's the answer then; stick with the XT600 (and the car that you mention elsewhere!) and save even faster toward the big journey!!

My XT600 aint going anywhere my friend. Just thinking about a bike I could use as a commuter and road cruiser. Id easy sell it for what I paid if not more.

Walkabout 20 Jul 2007 09:18

So many bikes, so little time
 
Ted,
There are some good looking Teneres on ebay right now; heres 3 for starters:-

1994 YAMAHA XTZ750 SUPER TENERE BLUE/WHITE on eBay Yamaha, Motorcycles Scooters, Cars, Parts Vehicles

Quite near your place, that one.

1991 YAMAHA WHITE XTZ 660 TENERE/DAKAR on eBay Yamaha, Motorcycles Scooters, Cars, Parts Vehicles

YAMAHA XTZ 750 SUPER TENERE ENDURO/COMMUTER on eBay Yamaha, Motorcycles Scooters, Cars, Parts Vehicles

*Touring Ted* 20 Jul 2007 12:15

Thanks Walkabout. Im actually watching the top one at moment.

I do fancy one but I should be saving (see my other thread "I want to go now" lol)

Hustler 20 Jul 2007 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedmagnum (Post 144180)
Thanks Walkabout. Im actually watching the top one at moment.

I do fancy one but I should be saving (see my other thread "I want to go now" lol)

Edward, I'm afraid one of these threads needs to be deleted.
Both cannot happen, at least not in a satisfactory timescale.
But you already know that.

*Touring Ted* 20 Jul 2007 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hustler (Post 144188)
Edward, I'm afraid one of these threads needs to be deleted.
Both cannot happen, at least not in a satisfactory timescale.
But you already know that.


I have to disagree. I am a motorcycle mechanic and soon to be working as a motorcycle salesmen.

Over the last 5 years, I have bought and sold about 30 bikes privately.

EVERY bike I have sold, I have made a profit on.

I buy them, ride them, tart them up to a high standard and sell them with 12 months MOT and looking like new.

Its part of the plan my friend :D

Hustler 20 Jul 2007 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedmagnum (Post 144194)
I have to disagree. I am a motorcycle mechanic and soon to be working as a motorcycle salesmen.

Over the last 5 years, I have bought and sold about 30 bikes privately.

EVERY bike I have sold, I have made a profit on.

I buy them, ride them, tart them up to a high standard and sell them with 12 months MOT and looking like new.

Its part of the plan my friend :D

I sit corrected. I'm impressed, buy loads then.

Sagarmatha1000 20 Jul 2007 16:16

Is that profit solely over the original purchase price or inclusive of all parts spending to tart them up?

*Touring Ted* 20 Jul 2007 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagarmatha1000 (Post 144207)
Is that profit solely over the original purchase price or inclusive of all parts spending to tart them up?

Por ejemplo.

I bought an 1999 Africa twin in 2005. Cost me £1750 as it was filthy, had 60,000 miles on the clock and needed a bloody good service. The throttle was sticking, tyres were worn and the frame was flaking.

I stripped her down and touched up the paint on the frame. I did a full top end rebuild and put on new tyres, brake lines , pads , cables, clutch plates and sprockets etc. I rebuilt the calipers and tuned her up nicely.

I think I spent about £500 on parts. She looked like new and ran like a brand new bike.

I rode her for about a year, had some great trips and sold her for £2750.

Thats one of my better deals.

I also had a XR650R that I used for a year and sold for exactly what I paid for her (inc servicing and spares), I bought an XT600 Tenere for £450 and sold that for £900 6 months later.

When I've finished modding and tarting up, i sell all the left overs on Ebay. Think i've made about £1000 in the last 2 years on spares and leftovers. You should see my Ebay account :rofl:

Sadly these days I dont have the free time that I used to for these projects so only do once or twice a year now.

If I bought a 750 Tenere, i GUARANTEE I would at least break even on it when I sold it :)

Sagarmatha1000 20 Jul 2007 17:32

Now that sounds like a hobby I can get into, although I've already got 1 bike needing a post-crash rebuild and another 2 sat doing nothing much at the moment.

I take it that's not buying them from eBay originally, is it?

*Touring Ted* 20 Jul 2007 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagarmatha1000 (Post 144224)
Now that sounds like a hobby I can get into, although I've already got 1 bike needing a post-crash rebuild and another 2 sat doing nothing much at the moment.

I take it that's not buying them from eBay originally, is it?

I bought most of the bikes on Ebay or found them advertised on Ebay and made cash offers.

Buy in December/January when biking is not popular and people need the money for XMAS and sell in spring when demand is high.

Its not easy and it takes up most of your free time. I used to do a lot more often than now as I only used to work 3 day weeks :)

I research the market work out what I can realistically sell them for. The 750 teneres on Ebay are quite a good standard already so I think they will go for top whack so I might hold fire until the winter. I prefere to buy tatty ones which I can make a good profit on.

I dont think anyone could make money out of doing it. I have spent thousands on a workshop full of tools and kit over the last few years and have a large double garage to work out of. Im very lucky in that respect.


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