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*Touring Ted* 1 Jan 2007 23:14

XT600E Jetting with opened up exhaust
 
Hey all

Ill be fitting a straight through unbaffled exhaust onto my 2003 XT600E. The manufacturer claims 6hp gain which may or may not be true but the original is way heavy and very restrictive.

Anyway, its gonna probably run lean now sure any tips of setting the twin carb set up on the XT ?

Pilot jet should be ok but should I change both main jets on both carbs (asuming they both have one) or is the needle clip sufficient ?

All info appreciated. Thanks, ed

Bill Ryder 2 Jan 2007 17:06

More sound less ground to ride.
 
Really loud bikes annoy lots of people in this world, If you want less weight just pack lighter and go on a diet.

*Touring Ted* 2 Jan 2007 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryder
Really loud bikes annoy lots of people in this world, If you want less weight just pack lighter and go on a diet.

Yes I agree and thats one reason why I may not. Im not the type of person who likes making lots of noise and being antisocial. I really do want more power out of the poor XT though so will try to get a can with a removable baffle so I can be more social in built up places.

Sadly, more power usually means more noise.

Brian Williams 2 Jan 2007 19:36

Try fitting an Arrow silencer and CRD header-pipe, this set up is much lighter, looks good and is not too much louder than standard but gives an increase in power which can be used without waking the dead !!

*Touring Ted* 2 Jan 2007 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Williams
Try fitting an Arrow silencer and CRD header-pipe, this set up is much lighter, looks good and is not too much louder than standard but gives an increase in power which can be used without waking the dead !!

Did you need to rejet at all ? Good power increase ?

ta, ed

Aussie_Dan 2 Jan 2007 21:08

I fitted a straight through Staintune pipe to My XT and also replaced the stock paper air filter with an oiled foam Unifilter.
The dealer that i was taking my bike to for servicing checked the air/fuel mixtures with their sniffer probe and they were perfect. No re-jetting necessary for me!

gavxt600e 2 Jan 2007 21:47

you got me thinking too. I botched up my own silencer for my '03 xt6e and im convinced it's made the bike slower at higher speeds but it sounds great. I stuppidly never even considered the fact that the jetting might be the reason. And this after jetting 2 stroke motocross bikes every weekend for years and my current 4 stroke honda. DOH. I must check the plug and do some trial tweaking

*Touring Ted* 2 Jan 2007 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by gavxt600e
you got me thinking too. I botched up my own silencer for my '03 xt6e and im convinced it's made the bike slower at higher speeds but it sounds great. I stuppidly never even considered the fact that the jetting might be the reason. And this after jetting 2 stroke motocross bikes every weekend for years and my current 4 stroke honda. DOH. I must check the plug and do some trial tweaking

The stock pipe is VERY restrictive. I cant see how the bike would not need rejetting or tampering, especially with a straight through pipe on. It may run but not to optimal and probably lean which will lead to overheating and glazing.

YAMXT 2 Jan 2007 22:46

I fitted a Leo Vince muffler to my 2003 XT600E and it runs fine without rejetting. Nicer noise not sure whether there was a power increase but pipe is not straight thru either. A mate of mine has fitted a YZF450 muffler to his with out too much trouble and no rejetting. His is a bit louder than mine. Ride it first and if you must tamper with the jetting go ahead.
Andy.

Brian Williams 2 Jan 2007 23:46

I just put in a larger main jet in secondary carb, didn't do a dyno run but spark plug colour was fine and bike runs sweet. I did also had the head gas flowed and fitted a Wisco 620cc piston and had cylinder rebored to fit.

gavxt600e 3 Jan 2007 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by YAMXT
I fitted a Leo Vince muffler to my 2003 XT600E and it runs fine without rejetting. Nicer noise not sure whether there was a power increase but pipe is not straight thru either. A mate of mine has fitted a YZF450 muffler to his with out too much trouble and no rejetting. His is a bit louder than mine. Ride it first and if you must tamper with the jetting go ahead.
Andy.

I did basically the same as you're mate only i used a yzf250 silencer.
Turned out neat i reckon. Doesn't hang wayyy out like some of the pipes you can buy for the xt600

http://images.kodakgallery.com/photo...8711_0_ALB.jpg

xtphreak 4 Jan 2007 22:13

1995 Xt600e
 
I got a Super Trapp ISD off ebay to replace the stock muffler/frame ... what a design?

anyway, the can has 8 discs in it, maybe a skosh louder than stock, but not obnoxious, mellow like a thumper should be when on the gas, putt putt when idling.

Also K&N filter, stock airbox.

no rejetting!!!

I was surprised.

Either the pipe or the filter would have expected to cause it to go lean, but the plug looks fine.

I check by installing new plug.

put plug wrench in pocket.

go out and when engine is warm, I run 65 mph on highway ... as flat as I can find, for several miles without speed changes ... then I hit the kill switch and pull the clutch at same time, coast into a spot where I pull the plug and inspect.

http://www.blueridge.net/~us/firstch...ide/1204xt.jpg

Aussie_Dan 5 Jan 2007 23:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by tedmagnum
I cant see how the bike would not need rejetting or tampering, especially with a straight through pipe on. It may run but not to optimal and probably lean which will lead to overheating and glazing.

I guess this all depends on the particular bike in question and how rich it was running in the first place. I was told that from the factory they come set-up to run very rich, so leaning them out a little bit won't hurt.

thundernuts 21 Feb 2010 06:32

XT600 Hotdog
 
I have been running a 96 XT600e for about 5 years with a straight-through 2 inch hot-dog pipe which maybe cost about $30. It sounds incredible, a real low-down thump, no sewing-machine whine like a 4 cylinder.

No complaints from the neighbours at idle, and i usually kill the motor at the of the street to preserve my neighbourly relations.

Otherwise, the carb is completely stock, although, the rubber carbuerator manifold recently deteriorated which made the bike run poorly, but since this has been repaired it runs incredibly.

The iridium plug showed a bit of a blackish and perhaps oily coating, although this has since been attributed to the a very blocker aircleaner.

After cleaning the carbuerator and airfilter, replacing the manifold, replacing the swingarm engine mounts (which had incidently completely disintergrated) the bike runs flawlessly, now approaching 75,000km and no rebuilds, almost no smoke. Have used fully synthetic oil and changed oil and filter every 3000km.

Was going to sell after years of use, commuting 300km per week, but it is now my newest favourite toy once again.

Even with tall gearing and heavy chassis, 0-100km/h in under 6 seconds is impressive and very satisfying, even if there is not much puff left over 110km/h, and 75,000km on the clock :scooter:

thundernuts 21 Feb 2010 06:38

Carby mixture
 
There is a mixture adjustment screw facing down underneath the carb below the idle screw.

Stock adjustment is 2.5 turns out from full in.

My mechanic has suggested turning in slightly more, maybe half a turn to richen up a bit for the straight-through pipe.

thundernuts 21 Feb 2010 07:08

i disagree that straight-through mufflers on big thumpers are anti-social.

If anything, i believe they are an essential safety feature.

Commuting on my thumper, if anything, i don't scare motorists because they can hear me coming, i don't silently appear out of nowhere.

I have had almost no issues with motorists cutting me off when driving behind them in a low visibility area.

(The high visibility jacket and high-beams might help too :thumbup1:)

I think there's something about the noise of a big thumper with a straight through pipe that sub-conciously demands much more respect and space on the road, than say, a silent two-stroke scooter.

Anyway, at least we don't use Harley straight through "drag" pipes that are 20 times louder than a thumper and definitely mucho more anti-social.

BlackDogZulu 21 Feb 2010 11:24

I did a Christmas toy-run ride-out last year, and spent a lot of time riding next to a Harley on drag pipes. Much as I like a nice fruity pipe, this was awful. It was a hard-edged hammering sound that quickly got unbearable. If you've ever fired up a bike with no exhaust headers on (just to test it, like) you will know the sound. The trick with an exhaust is to get it loud and yet mellow. Reverse-cone meggas used to do this on Brit singles and twins. Haven't seen any for sale for years, though.

dan66 25 Feb 2010 11:43

Glad I spotted this thread!
I was on my way to the gaeage to fiddle with my '03 XT. A previous owner removed the baffles from the stock 'pipe and I fitted a K&N filter. Was followed all around Spain and Morroco by an irritating burble and pop on closing the throttle. Just been saved hours of messing.

Dan :clap:

G600 25 Feb 2010 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by thundernuts (Post 277488)
There is a mixture adjustment screw facing down underneath the carb below the idle screw.

Stock adjustment is 2.5 turns out from full in.

My mechanic has suggested turning in slightly more, maybe half a turn to richen up a bit for the straight-through pipe.


Turning the mixtures screw IN makes the mixture RICHER? Not the other way around?:confused1:

I thought the carburetors sucked gas out of the “mixture” hole so more open equaled richer..( opposed to the air-screws in simpler carbs, like 2-strokes)..

Jens Eskildsen 25 Feb 2010 15:05

Its a CO/fuelscrew, therefor:

Screw out = more gas (richer)
Screw in = more air (leaner)

If it was an air screw, like on a typical two stroke, for instance your're moped, its the other way around, cause then its a airscrew.

Fuelscrews are often in the front side of the carn, airscrews on the back (typicalle behind the idle/rpm screw)

pursang 28 Jun 2011 12:11

When I bought the Arrow pipe for my 99 XT600E I was told there was no re-jetting required, I bought the bike used and recently when I had the carbs apart for cleaning I noticed the Pilot screw was set at 1-3/4 turns out from seated.


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