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Yamaha Tech Originally the Yamaha XT600 Tech Forum, due to demand it now includes all Yamaha's technical / mechanical / repair / preparation questions.

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Old 19th November 2008
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Xt 600 E

I have recently bought a many owner but low kms 2002 XT600E {10000 KM}
Once warmed up {10to 15 mins }running the engine runs quitely .The bike runs cleanly in the first 3 gears gets to 4th and wont rev out cleanly {about 110 km on the speedo ,5500 to 6000 rpm}and just about makes 140 kms after a good run up in top gear .I was expecting around 150 km flat out .
Am i expecting too much .i have cleaned the air filter and done the valve clearances and fitted a new plug .{which showed the bike mixture to be pretty good .Would a k&n filter allow the bike to flow some more air to allow me that extra 1000 rpm in 4th .I would like to add I live out in the desert 30C to 40c Plus at 1500 feet ,I noticed a slight improvement at sea level

Any help appreciated .
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are you with knobbles or street tires? Second question, check teeth number of sprocket and rear, maybe previous owners replaced them to have better acceleration. Sprocket should be 15, not sure about rear.
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Had exactly the same symptoms as you, here in England. The air filter is definitely way to go. But don't need to buy an aftermarket one if your existing filter is a genuine 4PT one. This should have little metal tabs that hold on a wire mesh cover. Once cover removed, cut out the paper element and push fit in it's place a suitable piece of material and refit mesh cover. I use a thick nylon scouring pad as my filter; but then i don't live in the desert and have to worry about sand getting everywhere!!!!!
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are you with knobbles or street tires? Second question, check teeth number of sprocket and rear, maybe previous owners replaced them to have better acceleration. Sprocket should be 15, not sure about rear.
Thanks for the reply ,I have standard tyres and 15/45 SPROCKETS. The bikes not been touched on that side {still standard }er ,I`m waiting for a K&n at the moment ,hopefully will allow engine to rev above 5500 in top gear .
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Old 22nd January 2009
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Thanks ,bit hard to get bits out here ,have managed to get a K&N ordered as sand is a real headache out here !!




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Had exactly the same symptoms as you, here in England. The air filter is definitely way to go. But don't need to buy an aftermarket one if your existing filter is a genuine 4PT one. This should have little metal tabs that hold on a wire mesh cover. Once cover removed, cut out the paper element and push fit in it's place a suitable piece of material and refit mesh cover. I use a thick nylon scouring pad as my filter; but then i don't live in the desert and have to worry about sand getting everywhere!!!!!
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I use Pipercross foam and the engine breathes better than with the Yamaha filter. I noticed even response through the rev range once i fitted an 'Arrow Paris-Dakar' exhaust. I don't know how fast my XT600E will go: i tend to treat it gently prior to going on my 1/2 RTW this summer.

I have stock 15/45. My understanding is that only the rear should be changed because of stress on the engine with 14t and being too close to the 'engine' with the 16t.

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If you fit a 14T sprocket on the front, the extra strain is on the chain, not the engine. Each link has to turn through a greater angle when the chain passes around the cog, and in the long run this will reduce chain life. I can't see any way that this would stress the engine unduly.

(And it's the better option IMO, as it's cheaper, and the reduced chain life is irrelevant, as most chains will be replaced as part of a C&S change long before they are worn out.)
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I definitely would not be fitting a K&N air filter if you are in the desert.
They are very good for air flow, but not good at filtering in dusty conditions.
Don't just take my word for it, do some research.
I would recommend the standard paper air filter or a foam one with a pre-filter for desert conditions.
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Pipercross

I agree that K&N's are NOT good for dusty sandy conditions, don't do it!

Have a look here. I have just fitted one to my 1999 mint condition XT6E.

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As far as I'm aware they are suited for use in sandy/desert conditions.
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More helpful info about Pipercross -

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