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swingarm pivot

Trying to remove the swingarm on a '02 XT600E. I've stripped everything off it but I can't get the swingarm pivot out. The left hand nut is off but the pivot won't slide out. Am I missing something or have I just got to hit it harder?
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Sounds like you may have something seized there, once the nut is off it should slide out easy. I assume you've removed the rear shock already. When you move the swingarm up and down, does the pivot rotate with it? If it does your swingarm bearings and your pivot are probably all seized up. In that case hit it harder might be your only option.
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shock is removed, bottom linkage disconnected from frame. Swing arm moves freely and pivot doesn't rotate with it. Time to break out the big hammer!
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Wiggle the swingarm up and down and side to side as you tap it with a hammer, try to take the weight of the swingarm off the pivot.

Can you have a look for me and tell me if your bike has this gap?



It seems like a design fault on an off road bike to me, easy place for water to get into the swingarm bearings. I didn't notice it taking it off, but I definitely didn't loose any seals before putting it back on.
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I'll take some pics tonight
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Hi Spider,
I had a similar problem with a VFR, the centre stand pivot simply would not budge, it turned out it was simply rusted in.
To remove it I first heated the casing surrounding pivot bolt, Then I sprayed into the centre stand pivot tube plumbers "Pipe Freeze", sealing the end to keep the liquid in as long as possible. Thus expanding the casing whilst shrinking the inner tube, did the trick where now't else would work. A slide puller would be better than bashing with a hammer as this tends to keep the forces of impact, evenly, in the desired direction.

good luck and hope this helps.

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Hit it harder but use a drift which is shaped to fit into the depression in the end of the shaft. I used an old very large Phillips screwdriver which located in the end of the shaft to ensure that it didn't slip out and also to stop the hammer damaging the threads.

Everything was bone dry inside although not rusted. Once properly lubed it slipped right back in nice and easy
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Here's the pic, looks like the same gap you have Ralph. I walloped it tonight and it just isn't shifting.
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Soak it in wd40 or simular any time you have a chance, wont hurt for sure, and it might jut help.

It seems like some regular maintanance would have helped, but too late for that now
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Thanks very much for that pic. It's a silly design, but someone else on here has the same on their 4PT, so it doesn't look like I'm missing anything.

Since your pivot shaft is not rotating with your swingarm when you move it moving up and down, the shaft is not stuck to the swingarm, so there can only be three places left where it can be stuck. Through the frame on the left at the nut, through the frame at the other end, and through the engine casings.

Put a socket and breaker bar on the hex at the right hand end of the swingarm pivot (brake pedal side) and see if it will turn and break loose.

If still no joy, can you tap a flat headed screwdriver between the frame and that hex at the right hand end of swingarm pivot and lever it out? That may work, but you'll take the paint off the frame and need to touch it up afterwards.

Otherwise try soaking the swingarm pivot in release oil at both sides of the frame and leave it a few hours before trying again.

Last resort try tapping very gently with a hammer on your engine casings (next to the gap we are talking about, use a cloth to protect the engine paint) whilst hitting the gear lever end of the swingarm pivot hard with a hammer.

Are you in the UK? Whereabouts?
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Have you taken out the axle that goes through all of that?

Get a hammer, a solid piece of round metal with less diameter than the axle and bang it out...

I bet it's those metal bushings that are f-ed up against the axle but the swingarm rotates over them instead of the right way(swingarm bushings rotating on the axle).


Just bang that damn axle out...


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I know how stuck those things can be, I would spray the center section where the bolt passes through the engine case with penetrating fluid and really let it soak in, then try to get the bolt turning before banging on it, the bolt head is recessed in the frame but even if you have to modify an old socket with a grinder and get it to fit the bolt head of the pivot, it's a 22mm or 7/8th, make it a six point socket if you have one, take a breaker bar and see if you can't tweak it loose, then use a tappered drift that fits the centre hole on the threaded end of the pivot bolt and tap it out. good luck.

I noticed your seal has popped out just like on my bike, I plan on modifying a washer of some kind to try hold that seal in, I really think these XTs get the short end of the stick when it comes design details, no oil drain screws on the front forks, I just noticed the pinched tube drain hose for the airbox never had it's tip cut off and hasn't been draining anything.

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I've ordered some Plusgas so I'll hang fire until I can try some of that.
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I just noticed the pinched tube drain hose for the airbox never had it's tip cut off and hasn't been draining anything.
Sorry in advance if im not reading this right, but here goes:

The drainhose from the airbox needs to be plugged/shut, you then remove the plug to release whats in there (oil/water), and put the plug in again.

If the plug is left out, the bike will suck unfiltered, dirty air (and water) trough that hose, around the filter into the airbox, and into the carb/engine.
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no oil drain screws on the front forks
Small screw on the front of your forks right down the bottom.

Do you have a copy of the manual for this bike? its all in there.

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