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Old 18 Feb 2014
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Replacing crankcase and bearings XT600 (parts compatibility)

Hi, I've finally got a bit of extra cash to I'm going to replace the damaged crankcase and bearings on my 34L. There's a few crankcases on ebay Germany, what versions are compatible with the 34L? I'm guessing it's all kickstart models but not the electric starts?
Also, I was going to buy the bearings from CMS NL but their listings only show a 49R (which as far as I know was the USA designation but from the same year) so I'm guessing the engine and bearings are the same? Just need to get confirmation before I buy parts! Thanks!

edit: Here's a quick overview of the bearing numbers for the 34L. Read through the whole post as there is important information in it!

Bearings:

Main Axe:
LHS: 93306-00431-00
RHS: 93306-30540-00

Drive Axle:
LHS: 93306-30535
RHS: 93306-00426

Crankshaft:
LHS: 93306-30630-00
RHS: 93306-30702-00

Balancer:
LHS: 93306-30525-00
RHS: 93313-92513-00 (OBSOLETE)

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PM sent.

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Got it, thanks.
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Balancer shaft bearing

Jesus, the RHS balancer shaft bearing is an obsolete part, it usually costs almost €160
Here it is(n't) on CMS: Bearing, Cylindrical (5y1) Yamaha - 9331392513 93313-92513
I've checked numerous other sites and can find only one for sale on ebay for €50 plus postage which is a lot better than €160 so I'm wondering should I snap it up or.....
Has anyone used a non-Yamaha bearing here? I realise it wouldn't be as good but at a fraction of the price...
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Id go with OEM if your going to hang on to it, wont need to replace them again until 2050.

Buy them whilst you still can, there will be a day soon where all OEM parts will be obsolete.

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I took my bearing to a local bearing supplier and they measured the internal and external diameter of the bearing, went round the back and brought one....really cheap.....I rebuilt the motor and still good...
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I guess it's a case of You always end up paying at some point... I'm going to have to put it further down my shopping list and concentrate on getting some more essential items for now.
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What do ye think of...

I'm looking at a crankcase from a 2NF which was a resticted version of the 2KF (smaller intake manifolds). Here says that the alternator must be changed but I'm presuming that's only if I was changing the whole harness to accommodate side stand switch etc.
So, looks good to me, just waiting for a few more photos from the seller. Here's a pic - I'd appreciate your comments/suggestions!


Having trouble adding the photo, so here's a link:
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Not sure on the alternator? i know its slightly different on the 34L but your changing all the internals anyhow right? the cases will be the same.

What`s wrong with current cases?

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Some bolt-holes cracked, others have been stripped and repaired. There's a piece of the case which stops the cam chain guide from moving too far but it has been broken off. It's behind the fly wheel so presumably got knocked off when a previous owner/mechanic tried to take off the fly wheel.
Surprisingly it's 100% functioning (for now), just not pretty and the threat of something going wrong is floating at the back of my mind...
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LHS crankshaft bearing

Anyone know the part number for the LHS crankshaft bearing? It's not on the microfiche but I thought I had come across somewhere on this site (or maybe another site) but I can't find it now!
RHS part number is 93306-30702-00
Can anyone confirm the correct bearing?
Thanks!

edit: I had an incorrect part number in there earlier, deleted...

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Doesn’t show the number on any of the fiches, but you can see the bearing on item #2

Very strange? ill get back to you on that.

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I think part #2 is actually the counterweight/crank, I don't think the bearing hasn't been given a part number..

edit: ignore me, just re-read your post and realised what you actually meant...
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? might be of use

hi I have uploaded 2 pages from my tt600r parts .it uses a xt600 engine ,have a look at ebay 380482205661 it looks as if the crank ,bearing and cam chain cog are sold as one from Yamaha, have a look at kedo.de ,they do both sides lh 90057 and rh 90058, I hope it helps steve

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Thanks Steve, just got an email back from Kedo to say the same. I was hoping to use Yamaha parts if I can - not if I have to buy the whole left side for 900 quid though!
While searching I did come across people saying they were able to remove the cam chain sprocket to replace the bearing but never talked about what bearing they used as a replacement.
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