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Metzeler Tourance - Where can I get some?

My new XT600E has some Pirrelli MT21 Rallye offroad tyres fitted. I don't really want to ride on tarmac with these knobblies. I have been told that Metz Tourance tyres are my best bet the trouble is I can't find anywhere to supply the damn things! Can anyone please tell me where I can get hold of a set in the UK? Preferably somewhere that you have personally used. Most sites list them in their products but try and order them and you are told they are out of stock and hard to get hold of...
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Help!

All I seem to be able to get locally is BRIDGESTONE TRAILWINGS and I have heard some terrible stories about these being fitted to XT's. My second choice is Dunlop Trailmax but again they appear hard to get hold of in my sizes - 90/90 21 and 120/90 17 (both S rated - no need for fast tyres cos I don't ever go faster than about 70Mph).
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I think the Dunlop 607 would be a good choice, is is a good alround performer with excellent wet weather qualities.
Try a 130/80 17 as a option for the rear.
Stay away from the Bridgestone Deathwings if at all possible.
Pirelli supply a Scorpion AT which is quite good, they also have a ST as well but I have never tried them.

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If you are still stuck I have a set of part worn 607s in the garage.

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I've got Tourances on my XT which are only really useful for occasional and hard packed trails. They are quite a road bias tyre and the hubby got 11k kms out of his before he needed to change the rear tyre but he says they always felt a bit dodgy on the XT so he's gone back to using Trail Wings.

I've got Trail Wings on my other bike - a Yamaha Tricker - and in my opinion they are better tyres for off road because the aggressive tread is much better on the tracks.

Once my Tourances are worn down a bit more, I'll be going back to Trail Wings.
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My local BMW dealership fitted Tourances to my F650 Dakar. I think it is the standard tyre for that bike. So it might be worth trying your local BMW dealer.

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Thanks for all your help...

I have decided to go for a Michelin ANAKEE Rear tyre (120/90/17) S rated
and matching front tyre.

They seem easier to get hold of than the Tourance.

Cheers guys.
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I have decided to go for a Michelin ANAKEE Rear tyre (120/90/17) S rated
and matching front tyre.

They seem easier to get hold of than the Tourance.

Cheers guys.
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Check out the Michelin Web site, good info including tyre pressures, they recommend a 130/80 17 H rated for your bike!
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Is it really a good idea to fit tyres a completely different size than those put on by Yamaha? My owner manual gives the following sizes:

120/90 17
90/90 21

I'm going to show myself up here by asking what these measurements represent. Depth, width etc..

You are right though, Michelin does indeed recommend fitting ANAKEES -

130/80 17!!!!!!!

Can someone please kindly explain why they would do this and advise me to either take the advice or ignore it.

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Bridgestone Trial Wing 302

Does anybody have some experience with Bridgestone Trial Wing 302?

I bought Yamaha TT600R with new TW 302, as I'm going on a 15 000 km trip this summer, would they be a good choice for Central Asia.
If yes I would then buy another pair of the same for reserve.

Bridgestone says this:
The DTC technology in the rear tyres contributes to long mileage and fine cornering grip. TW302 is the only Trail Wing pattern with DTC technology, making the TW301/302 combination one of the premium lines of Bridgestone's trail wing.

But when I look at tham they don't seem like a "long life" tire.

The problem with my bike is that dimensions are

Front 90/90-21
Rear 130/80-18

That means that I have a very limited choice even here in Europe, probability of finding those anywhere east of Bulgary is very small.
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Is it really a good idea to fit tyres a completely different size than those put on by Yamaha? My owner manual gives the following sizes:

120/90 17
90/90 21

I'm going to show myself up here by asking what these measurements represent. Depth, width etc..

You are right though, Michelin does indeed recommend fitting ANAKEES -

130/80 17!!!!!!!

Can someone please kindly explain why they would do this and advise me to either take the advice or ignore it.

Thanks
Neil,
It is a common alternative, I a 130/80 it on a Honda Dominator and Transalp, both come with 120/90. The Dominator had both sizes listed in the manual.
I believe the reason is the 130/80 when fitted on the rim has the same or similar profile as a 120/90; the extra width (130) goes into the height making 90. That’s the theory, in practice I have never felt any difference. The 130 does look a bit larger on the bike but not by much, it may have a slightly larger foot print.

If it's recommended by the tyre manufacturer you should not have any issues re type approval or safety.

Off road, tyre size, brings in some different issues.

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Then I shall go ahead and fit em! Thanks.
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Juddadredd is selling some new ones

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