Horizons Unlimited, the website for motorcycle travellers.
in cooperation with
Quality Touring equipment worldwide.
Be a Member!
Is HU useful & helpful?
Become a Member! And get more goodies!
Amazon
Buy your books and goodies from Amazon - but start at the HU Books Search page
Buy your books and goodies from Amazon.
and we get a small percentage of your purchases - and it costs you nothing! Thanks!
 
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel. Discover the extraordinary with Compass Expeditions.
Go Back   The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Yamaha Tech
Register FAQ Travellers List Calendar Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Yamaha Tech Originally the Yamaha XT600 Tech Forum, due to demand it now includes all Yamaha's technical / mechanical / repair / preparation questions.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 8 Nov 2005
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London
Posts: 16
After shipping...wont start! help!

Hi there,

This is actually a question about an XTZ750, but im hoping anyone can help me! We have just recieved our bike after shipping it fom Vancouver to Wellington. Prior to shipping, we did all the usual..drained oil and petrol, disconncected the battery etc. It was in freight for at the most 4 and a half weeks.
It arrived on the weekend, my partner put it all back together....and she wont start. The engine turns over, but just wont kick in. Weve charged the battery in a battery charger, but because we keep trying to start it over and over, the battey keeps dying and its juices are never really at its maximum.
We checked the spark plugs, the oil is full, full petrol.
Has anyone had this problem after shipping? And can anyone lend any advice on what this could be? It is an old bike, 1990, but the motor has been so strong. We had some problems in Mexico with the voltage regulator, so maybe this has had a lasting effect on the battery??
Please help!
Thanks.
CM
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 8 Nov 2005
Matt Cartney's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 1,262
If the engine turns over and plug is sparking maybe its a petrol problem? Is the bowl of the carb full of petrol? Maybe theres a blockage somewhere? You could try removing the plug/s turning over the engine with your thumb over the hole and seeing if it gets wet from petrol. This is a trick used on Bullets to make sure the carb jet ain't blocked, wether it would work on your bike I don't know but it might be worth a try?
Matt
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 8 Nov 2005
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: bristol, uk
Posts: 60
check all the basics. you say you have checked the plugs, but have you checked for a spark itself? - take the plug out, fasten it back in the HT lead cap, and gently hold the electrode aagainst an earth on the bike (usually the metal cylinder head is fine) - turn the bike over and watch the plug, there should be a strong, fat, blue spark. (DONT hold onto the metal bit of the plug! i use insulated pliers to hold the HT cap. the shocks not dangerous (heart conditions excepted), but is unpleasant)

if you have a good spark it will almost certainly be the petrol / fuelling. carefully look over the whole system for leaks, clean your airfilter etc etc. i suggect running half a litre of the freshest, highest grade petrol you can get your hands on through each float bowl (there will be a nozzle next to the drain plug you can plug a hose onto, easier to catch!). this will wash out any lose dirt or gum.

if it still doesn't start, then it maybe a tad more serious... my money would be on a combination of the below...
a) gone off petrol having left gum in the pilot jets... you need the carbs off, and ideally ultrasonically cleaned - modern fuel is crap, goes off quick and leaves a very sticky, insoluable gum. sadly pilot jets are small, delicate inacessable holes...
b) its the yamaha 5 valve (per cylinder) head on the xtz isn't it? notorious for the inlet valve clearences closing up, which causes difficult starting. if this is the case, then the valve clearences MUST BE DONE or its goodbye head (and wallet). they should be dome about every 16K miles, but personal experience with that head design on several bikes (tdm, trx, yzf) makes me advise check them every 10!

good luck, hope it helps!


dan
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 9 Nov 2005
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: cardigan,wales
Posts: 246
Firstly check for a spark at the plug(as described above),if ok then;

Check valve clearances;

Remove carbs and clean out float bowls(an old toothbrush and a bit of fresh petrol will do the trick).

I assume you've got fresh,new petrol in the tank(not the old stuff you had in the auxilliary tank(s)).As mentioned before modern petrol goes off very quickly.

If you had to remove the handlebars to get it in the crate,maybe the engine kill-switch isn't plugged in/has a dodgey connection?



------------------
Just going for a short ride on my bike....
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 9 Nov 2005
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: London,England
Posts: 344
When checking for spark be carefull, if engine is flooded petrol can come out through plug hole right next to where you are holding spark plug checking for spark resulting in FIRE.
If possible I would try bump starting your bike may have to find a hill or get someone to tow you.
Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 9 Nov 2005
Matt Cartney's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 1,262
Re: towing above,
heres a good tip for towing a motorbike, pass the rope a turn or two round the handle bars and hold it in place rather than tieing it in place. If it all goes pear shaped you might want to get rid of that tow rope sharpish!
Matt
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 9 Nov 2005
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: London
Posts: 16
Thanks for your tips everyone,

It turned out to be some of the wires from the battery were a bit freyed and werent totally connected...just as well we didnt take the whole thing apart!!!

ahhh, so good to have two wheels again!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10 Nov 2005
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: cardigan,wales
Posts: 246
I hope that's your bit of bad luck out of the way for the journey(there's always one).Enjoy your trip!

------------------
Just going for a short ride on my bike....
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
Translate page

Your comments

"Best web site I've ever seen for traveling, on or off a bike, keep it up, thank you."
Tony Brimble, UK

"Hi guys! I really love your site and work - its an indispensable info source for touring!"
David Katz, Germany

"Simply the best motorcycle adventure site!"
Brian Coles, UK

"I could spend hours lost in the HUBB - and do so from time to time!"
Mike Paull, USA

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers."
Greg Aldis, Australia


Books & DVD's

Check out the Books pages, where we have listed some of the best motorcycle travel books and videos, BMW books, general m/c books, and travel guides. There's also links to:

in Association with Amazon.com.
in Association with Amazon.co.uk.
in Association with Amazon.de.
in Association with Amazon.ca

Remember if you go to Amazon from HU, we get a small percentage of every purchase. Thanks! Grant and Susan


Top of page Top Home Shop the Souk Grant & Susan\'s RTW Trip Subscribe to the E-zine HUBB Forum Community
Travellers Stories Trip Planning Books Links Search Privacy Policy Advertise on HU

Your comments and questions about the site are welcome. Contact Horizons Unlimited.
All text and photographs are copyright © Grant and Susan Johnson, 1987-, or their respective authors. All Rights Reserved.