Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Yamaha Tech
Yamaha Tech Originally the Yamaha XT600 Tech Forum, due to demand it now includes all Yamaha's technical / mechanical / repair / preparation questions.
Photo by Ellen Delis, Lagunas Ojos del Campo, Antofalla, Catamarca

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Ellen Delis,
Lagunas Ojos del Campo,
Antofalla, Catamarca



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 2 Jul 2006
Contributing Member
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Sussex, UK
Posts: 75
Question 3AJ Starting

I've never owned or ridden a Tenere before this one that I recently rebuilt. When starting it, after it's been standing a couple of days, It takes about a minute of cranking the starter, and a load of whiteish smoke comes out of the exhaust for a while. When the engines warm, I don't have this problem. I've just looked at the battery and one of the cells is low on water, which was topped up about 300 miles ago. Is this normal for these bikes? And what is the drill with starting, choke/no choke, throttle/no throttle? Is my battery crap? Or could that be a symptom of another problem. Other than that the bike runs well.
Help please
Dave O
__________________
Remember what Yoda said\", there is no try, either do or not do\".
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12 Jul 2006
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 212
Hi Dave,

Neither the starting problem nor the battery electrolyte level dropping is normal.

Once my 3AJ was sorted it started reliably on the button after one or two seconds, as does my girlfriends 3TB.

On our bikes to start from cold requires full choke and no throttle, hot start in no choke and just a hint of throttle.

If you only have starting problems when the engine is cold, and it starts within a second or 2 when hot I would check that the carb's cold start plunger is moving correctly when you pull the choke knob out. I would probably remove it anyway and blow through the passages with aerosol carb cleaner.

You say that you have recently rebuilt the motor. Did you replace the inlet stubs between the cylinder head and carbs ? These often come apart between their rubber and aluminium parts, causing air leaks which cause starting problems.

Have you checked your valve clearances, they quickly bed down on a rebuilt motor and may be part of the problem. It might even be worth doing a compression test (after valve clearances have been set and when the engine is hot,) to verify that the rings and valves are sealing correctly, if not that too would cause poor starting

Other problems that I had included an air leak in the pipe connecting the inlet stub to the fuel pump, plugs in the air box coming apart, and an aftermarket alternator/CDI rotor not supplying the CDI unit with enough power to produce a good spark.

If the white smoke that you mentioned isn't just condensation as the exhaust system warms up, then that is something to be concerned about. Could be just that the tickover mixture screw is set too weak, which wouldn't help hot starting.

If the starting problem only occurs after the bike has stood for a few days, it might be worth trying draining the carb’s float bowl before starting and letting it re-fill from the tank. Fuel goes off much quicker than it used to. If the fuel in the tank is from before the rebuild, replace it!

If the battery will turn the engine over for a minute I wouldn’t have thought it too bad, but something’s not right there either if the level keeps dropping. However, the battery isn’t used to produce the sparks, it’s CDI.

Also, have you tried changing the spark plug, plug cap or somehow determined if you have a good spark?

Hope this helps, good luck with sorting it our

Mark
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Still starting problems goodwoodweirdo Suzuki Tech 5 18 Sep 2008 09:57
3AJ starting problems scoobie Yamaha Tech 3 21 Oct 2004 19:24
Tips for kick starting a tenere Bryce Yamaha Tech 1 8 Mar 2002 17:19
Venezuela-Brazil-Peru starting 15 jan 2002 Mark van der Molen Travellers Seeking Travellers 0 21 Dec 2001 14:14
Starting Problems Roger Hogg Yamaha Tech 2 18 Jun 2001 18:51

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:11.