The Achievable Dream 5-part series - the definitive guide on DVD for planning your motorcycle adventure. Get Ready! covers planning, paperwork, medical and many other topics! "Inspirational and Awesome!" See the trailer here!
Gear Up! is a 2-DVD set, 6 hours! Which bike is right for me? How do I prepare the bike? What stuff do I need - riding gear, clothing, camping gear, first aid kit, tires, maps and GPS? What don't I need? How do I pack it all in? Lots of opinions from over 150 travellers! "This DVD will save you a fortune!"See the trailer here!
So you've done it - got inspired, planned your trip, packed your stuff and you're on the road! This section is about staying healthy, happy and secure on your motorcycle adventure. And crossing borders, war zones or oceans!
On the Road! is 5.5 hours of the tips and advice you need to cross borders, break down language barriers, overcome culture shock, ship the bike and deal with breakdowns and emergencies."Just makes me want to pack up and go!" See the trailer here!
Tire Changing!Grant demystifies the black art of Tire Changing and Repair to help you STAY on the road! "Very informative and practical." See the trailer here!
Ladies on the Loose! For the first time ever, a motorcycle travel DVD made for women, by women! These intrepid women share their tips to help you plan your own motorcycle adventure. They also answer the women-only questions, and entertain you with amazing tales from the road! Presented by Lois Pryce, veteran solo traveller through South America and Africa and author of 'Lois on the Loose', and 'Red Tape and White Knuckles.'
"It has me all fired up to go out on my own adventure!" See the trailer here!
We're not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown a hobby into a full time job and a labour of love.
When you decide to become a Member, it helps directly support the site. You get additional privileges on the HUBB, access to the Members Private Store, and more to come as we roll out new systems. Of course, you get our sincere thanks, good karma and knowing you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. :-)
Travel BooksMotorcycle and travel books to inspire and inform you!
DVDs - Watch and Learn!
Horizons Unlimited presents!
Achievable Dream The definitive guide to planning your motorcycle adventure! This insanely ambitious 2-year project has produced an informative and entertaining 5-part, 18 hour DVD series. "The ultimate round the world rider's how-to DVD!" MCN UK.
Collectors Box SetAll 5 DVDs with a custom printed slip case. "The series is 'free' because the tips and advice will save much more than you spend on buying the DVD's."
Advertisers- Horizons Unlimited is well-established as the first source of reliable, unbiased information on all aspects of motorcycle travel.
We reach a dedicated, worldwide group of real travellers, and are the only website focusing exclusively on long distance motorcycle travellers.
If you sell motorcycles or motorcycle accessories, riding gear, camping equipment and clothing, transport motorcycles, organize motorcycle tours, or have motorcycles to rent, you should be advertising with us!
Which Bike?Comments and Questions on what is the best bike for YOU, for YOUR trip. Note that we believe that ANY bike will do, so please remember that it's all down to PERSONAL OPINION. Technical Questions for all brands go in their own forum.
We've had a code update on the HUBB that should fix any issues with the new right hand column. If the HUBB "looks funny" or is too narrow with the Forum description squished up, please force a refresh to get the latest code update. (Hold down the shift OR ctrl key, and click the refresh button on your browser, OR Ctrl R, OR on Macs, Command R). If you still have a problem please post it here.
KLR 650 or BMW 650 DAKAR?
We are planning a trip through the Americas (3 guys, 3 bikes), and I've narrowed it down to these 2 bikes.
Some people swear for one, some for the other, I almost made up my mind for the Kawi due to the possibility of lowering it to some 32 1/2 inches (I'm 5-07"), the fact that it's been around since 1987, parts are relatively inexpensive and available all over, they appear not to break, and there are tons of aftermarket stuff for it, especially to customize it for a long trip, but I still beg you to tell me which would be better suited (and why) for going down to Tierra Del Fuego and back to San Diego (down west, back on the east side of the Americas).
It's yor duty to convince me one way or the other (pleazeee?).
Thank you fellas, enjoy yer bikes and yer s....
Dave's right, both are excellent, and DO ride all the same bikes.
The big difference between the two is that the Kaw is considerably cheaper, even after fixing it's flaws, all of which are well known and easily sorted.
The F650 is very reliable, no common flaws in the newer ones. The only real flaw in the old ones seems to be the water pump, and that may continue on to the new ones, but no recent data on that. Carry one spare, the rest is good, should do fine.
Both can be lowered significantly. The new F650 is even available in a very low version, good for those down to around 5 feet tall. Lots of options for height, so don't make the final choice on that.
I vote for the Kaw 650. We have a used one at the shop where I work and I get to ride it till it sells. It has the lowering kit in the suspension, centerstand, forward footpegs,tall shield and big aluminum boxes. I don't need the lowering kit but the bike seems to handle fine on a variety of rough road and two track. I wish I had this bike on my june trip to Inuvik north of the arctic circle. Do stop and see Palenque in Mexico.
Faced with the same choice last fall, I opted for the KLR 650 for a ride thru Central & South America (beginning Sept. 04) based on wrenchability (i.e. it’s simpler and more accessible to the amateur mechanic) parts availability, lower price, less weight, and larger fuel tank.
To ride a KLR that distance over rough terrain you must upgrade the "doohickey" and fortify the subframe. Details may be found here http://klr6500.tripod.com/ and here http://www.klr650.net/forum/ Plenty of other things may be improved (brakes, fork springs, rear shock), but doohickey and subframe are must-do’s.
Think twice about the lowering links. My pal has a lowered KLR with a centerstand and has suffered difficulties riding Baja ... off road, it’s lowered such that the centerstand bangs on the ground. It tore off his footpegs and he needed to have them welded back on in Baja -- argh!
An excellent alternative is a Corbin dished seat. You’re way lower and still have room to use an AirHawk seat pad, IMHO the best for arse comfort. Good luck~~
I'm a BMW fanatic, but I'd have to say that given your description of intent, the KLR would probably be my choice. Where I live a good used KLR is roughly half the price of a Dakar, new or used. Even that aside, the stock large tank on the KLR is a big plus. I am not sure if you will have to post a bond (Carnet de Passe (sp?))to import your bikes to any of the countries you plan to visit, but these are usually based on the value of the bike - another factor in favor of the KLR. Plus there is always the crash/ stolen/ sunk-in-deep-salty-water issue which favors the cheaper bike. Of course, if none of the above happens then the resale on the Dakar will be higher.
The only objective factor that would make me choice the Dakar is post-trip. Is this the bike you are then going to live with for the next 5-10 years? Other trips? Com'on, this is just the start right? If so, the relative difference in initial cost is somewhat secondary to how well the bike fits your riding style and preference. I've never been on a Dakar, but those that have ridden both have told me that the Dakar is a much nicer paved road bike where as off road it's a tougher call between the two.
Thank you all guys for yer replies: Now I'm more confused than ever! Not, really, both bikes have their pros and cons.
Bike hight is a definite concern, and price also makes a difference (although IF there would be a clear winner I could stretch my pockets).
I have the idea that the beemer is and feels more luxurious than the KLR, probably its ride is also more "civilized" than the KLR (if there is such a thing).
6.1 gallons makes a lot of sense, and the lower initial cost (5 grand for a new one) will allow for many improvements and selective accessories (I mean useful and light weight).
Both my friends already agreed going with the same bike model is a plus (nothing but common sense).
I'm a 49 years old guy recovering from cancer (lymphoma) and we all plan to do this between 3 and 4 years, and now (although I'm REALLY leaning toward the KLR) I believe there is no substitute for actually trying and riding both bikes I bet you guys one of these bikes will speak to me, and if it is the beemer, well, I'll carry a jerry can to equal the KLR
Off road stints will most likely be limited to what's necessary. Obviously the bikes will be kind of babied to improve the odds of failure during the trip.
Thank you again you guys!
Dario, be sure to get to the HU Meeting in Mexico Oct 14-17 - you'll have lots of opportunity to see both bikes ridden by guys who do lots of travelling, and talk to the riders, as well as get general inspiration from all the stories and seminars.
Cooped up indoors in crap weather? Binge watch over 20 hours of inspiring, informative and entertaining stories and tips from 150 travellers! Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to order them both and use Coupon Code 'BoxSet+' on your order when you checkout.
10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!
Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!
Membership - Show you're proud to be a Horizons Unlimited Traveller!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events such as this one (18 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or
to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and
knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.