New Bike Yamaha XTZ 250 TENERE !!!
 

Hi guys,

I don´t know if it really exists, but I saw this magazine yesterday in Brazil, looks good:

Yamaha XTZ 250 TENERE

Yamaha Ténéré 250

Have a look!

Jens(Arica, Chile)

I'm not convinced, would you put twin front discs that size on a 250? Considering my XT600 Ténéré only has one.

I don't speak Portuguese but the article heading for the photo of the bike appears to read photo-montage, suggesting it's a mock up to show what such a bike might look like, if it was ever considered, designed and built, using this magazine as inspiration.

Needless to say, I don't think it's real. :frown:

Which is a shame because I think, for the solo rider, a 250 with that frame, tank size and seat would make a great overlander!!

In the picture it's the 1200 and 660 that have two discs, the 250 appears to have one.

Why wouldn't they make it? Anything to get a few more sales surely?

david

XTZ 250 Lander in Brazil
 

Hi guys,

they also have a XTZ 250 Lander in Brazil, which is really good bike. I think it is even fuel injected(not sure).

It is used for Enduro Recing too, I saw some really amazing Desert Racing Versions in Brazil, strong bikes!

We don´t have the Lander in Germany... stupid people only want big bikes...

I think it is like travelling on the old DR 350 Suzukis, it is really a shame that they don´t build bikes like this anymore... okay there is still the brand new Beta 4.0 Alp out there with the DR 350 Engine, but do you get parts on the road???

Jens

Could not agree more ! I have a 250 serow but something with a better tank range geared up for adventure travel would be a great idea - bring it on Yamaha and import it to Europe !

Chizz

It's a photoshop job - frame and bits are off the 660.

Hi Chizz,

100% a photomontage, more like a MCN idea of a future bike than anything else. You can see it's a direct copy of the 660 image, with bits tweeked.

As far as I'm aware, none of the bikes from Yamaha Brazil are officially brought into the UK, so I was lucky to get Team Cabra.

Now if Derbi can offer their 125cc Adventure bike then, apart from cost, and a limited market, then what's to stop Yamaha from doing the same?

Regards

Reggie

Hey Guys... This is my first post in this forum. You're all right. This is a Photoshop job. It's not a real bike and I suppose it will not be on the streets in the next few months.

I'm from Brazil, and yes, we do have a 250cc trail motorcycle both from yamaha and Honda (major manufacturers here in Brazil).

Yamaha's bike is named Lander and it is fuel injected. Honda's bike goes by the name Tornado. Tornado is not on production anymore. Honda now has a 300cc named XRE300. I own a Tornado and it's a nice bike for daily urban users.

Many guys I know use the Tornados for their off-road job. It's a nice bike, but I prefer Lander better... For urban use, the fuel injection is a more apropriate solution.

I live in Sao Paulo, our streets feels a lot like off-road, because of bad quality pavement (asphalt mostly). So, both bikes are great for this city.

Hope to get back here often to trade some ideas with you guys!

Marcos

Hello,

i think a 250 Tenere was very good for travling also in Europe. When i travel i want to see the Country i don't want make much speed.

Markus

Yamaha XTZ 250 TÉNÉRÉ - BRAZIL
 

It´s not fake, it´s true!
XTZ 250 Ténéré was launched today in Brazil, the engine is the same XTZ 250 Lander.


NOVA YAMAHA T�N�R� 250 - Boa na cidade. Melhor ainda fora dela.
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http://www.mundotenere.com.br/FichaT...ERE-XTZ250.pdf
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Yamaha - Yamaha Motor
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The problem is the price: R$12.900,00 = US$7.600,00. :helpsmilie:

Best wishes,
Reginaldo.

It looks interesting, but it looks more like a style-pack than a new bike.

I google-translated the yamaha sites of both, the Lander and the Tenere and they are basically the same bikes. Same breaks, same suspension, same swing (doesn't it look a little weak?), same engine, same frame, same exhaust...

I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but how much is the lander? Cause if it's a lot less it might be worth just throwing a bigger tank+frontligh section and the seat on yourself.


And also with 7,6kUS it's not far to the 660 Tenere.

But if a lot of people buy them now I'd be happy so I can pick one up cheap when I get to South America.

Yes, you are right it´s the same engine, frame, etc..
Only some changes like: seat, tank, etc.

The XTZ 250 Lander costs: R$11.735,00 = US$6.910,00.
Many things have high prices in Brazil because of our high taxes.

All the best,
Reginaldo.

250 tenere
 

I like the bike, will go to a dealer when I get to Brazil in december and test ride or sit on one.

Mika
RTW 1999-2005 on a XT600Z Tenere 1VJ

Deep down, I'm hoping this thing uses the same fuel pump as the US/Euro/Aussie WR250R. Take a lot of worries out of far away touring... A fuel injected XT250 would be really nice, even here in the states. Sharp looking bike.

Oh i think it will be also good for EU than the younger People how don't have so much money will start travelling. :scooter:

But the Price must be unter 7000 Euro.

Markus

XTZ250 Lander recommendation
 

All,

I realise this thread is rather old but I wanted to write about my own experience of the Yamaha XTZ250 "Lander". I lived in Brazil for a couple of years and bought one of these (vs the Honda Tornado that was also mentioned or the Honda 150cc "Bros"). The Lander engine is SOHC Fuel Injected with just 2 valves and I made no modifications to the bike except an alarm and luggage rack for a top-box.

In short, I would love to buy this bike in the UK if it were imported. It's quite simple in design but the build quality was very good and the engine was an absolute peach. Great acceleration and smoothness on road, even when climbing twisty mountain roads with a pillion. Off-road, the engine gives plenty of power with nice semi-knobbly tyres that operate in mud. My only complaint being that gearing is a little long for very steep sections, leaving you hunting for a gear between 1st and 2nd.

If you are planning to go to Brazil, I would never try to import a vehicle (it's illegal to import a used car or motorcycle) but registering a vehicle is a real PITA. The easiest solution IMHO is that you ask someone local you trust to buy it in their name and get the licence plate and documents in their name, then you can "borrow" it for a few weeks/months. As long as you have the bike document, you are fine. You can then resell it as you leave.

Anyway, as I said about the bike, it's fantastic and makes trips so much fun. It also never skipped a beat in torrential tropical downpours. The only weak point is an underpowered front headlamp but I wouldn't fit a higher output bulb for fear of burning out a loom or switch (not sure if it's on a relay) in the system.

Hope this was useful for someone out there,
P

P.S. Brazil, for the sheer size and variety, has to be one of the most amazing places to ride a motorcycle in the world.

XTZ250 Tenere Emissions Standards
 

Does anyone know if the 250 Tenere have any limitations from being imported from Brazil into the U.S.? This is one beautiful bike and as much as I love my current XT250, the 4 gallon fuel tank, windscreen, and fuel injection would make me love this one even more!

I appreciate any feedback!!

:mchappy:

No need for paying the shipping all the way from Brazil, Mexico has started to sell them. YAMAHA MOTOR DE MEXICO S.A. DE C.V. around USD$5.7k. I'm picking mine up this week!!! :clap:

that's the bike I need! any chance it will be available in Europe or US?

I bought the new model, with electronic injection, LED flashlights and low emissions and bi-fuel system: gasoline or ethanol.
Little Ténéré
http://yamaha-motor.com.br/tenere/im...e_250-bike.png
Regarding XTZ250 traditional, it is much more comfortable (anatomical seat and wind protection), has greater autonomy, front lighting is very good and is very economical.
:mchappy::clap:

unless we're talking about 450cc bike I'm not interested. New tenere in Europe will be based on MT07.

Smaller bikes
 

It is a pity that nice bikes like these are not availble in Europe.

Honda Cargo 160
Yamaha XTZ 250
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But it has to do with market I guess.
We (at least in north europe) thinks that anything under 500cc is for kids or girls.
When in reality, these are fantastic bikes.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XTZ_250

At 151 kg it’s heavier than both the CRF250l and the KLX250 even more so than the WR250R.
Both Honda and Kawasaki are bringing their 300 versions to Europe, which are lighter, and no doubt the Honda will sell in big numbers.
Personally I’m hoping that Yamaha with bring out a 300 Tenere - I’m sure it’s coming, I just hope they don’t drag it out for too long.

I agree that a the Tenere 300 is the dream.

I really prefer twins over thumpers, since they are way less vibey on long rides. Also with modern twins can give you that nice low end torque that used to be only for thumpers.

Yamaha XTZ 250
 

Weight.
Yes it is a couple of kg heavier than CFR 250.
But that is wet. With 8 liters more of fuel.
So it is lighter slightly liter with the same amount of fuel.
And the std XT 250 is even 14 kg lighter.


Cubic

Yes, 286 cc has to be better than 249 cc
350 cc has to better than 300 cc
400 even better. Or the old 500.
But there was a 600. But 660 has to be better than 600.
And the new 700 cc better than 660 cc
But wait. There is a 1200 cc. It has to be the best.
If they just could increase the bore to give 1250 cc.
As the largest BMW GS

Its 153 kilos versus 144 - so not just a couple. Anyhow - its not the weight that is the weakest spot on the 250 Tenere imo. Its the engine that has only 20 or 21 HP (depending on where you read) and the fact that it has only 5 speed gearbox.

We all know what the most negative characteristics of a 250 cc are - and that is the limited power and also the power to weight ratio. And in the 250 class the 250 Tenere is the heaviest bike and with the least powerful engine.

Yes - I have ridden one and it felt significantly heavier and slower than my Crf.
Except from that Im sure its an ok bike for what it is....