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Oh i think it will be also good for EU than the younger People how don't have so much money will start travelling.

But the Price must be unter 7000 Euro.

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XTZ250 Lander recommendation

All,

I realise this thread is rather old but I wanted to write about my own experience of the Yamaha XTZ250 "Lander". I lived in Brazil for a couple of years and bought one of these (vs the Honda Tornado that was also mentioned or the Honda 150cc "Bros"). The Lander engine is SOHC Fuel Injected with just 2 valves and I made no modifications to the bike except an alarm and luggage rack for a top-box.

In short, I would love to buy this bike in the UK if it were imported. It's quite simple in design but the build quality was very good and the engine was an absolute peach. Great acceleration and smoothness on road, even when climbing twisty mountain roads with a pillion. Off-road, the engine gives plenty of power with nice semi-knobbly tyres that operate in mud. My only complaint being that gearing is a little long for very steep sections, leaving you hunting for a gear between 1st and 2nd.

If you are planning to go to Brazil, I would never try to import a vehicle (it's illegal to import a used car or motorcycle) but registering a vehicle is a real PITA. The easiest solution IMHO is that you ask someone local you trust to buy it in their name and get the licence plate and documents in their name, then you can "borrow" it for a few weeks/months. As long as you have the bike document, you are fine. You can then resell it as you leave.

Anyway, as I said about the bike, it's fantastic and makes trips so much fun. It also never skipped a beat in torrential tropical downpours. The only weak point is an underpowered front headlamp but I wouldn't fit a higher output bulb for fear of burning out a loom or switch (not sure if it's on a relay) in the system.

Hope this was useful for someone out there,
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P.S. Brazil, for the sheer size and variety, has to be one of the most amazing places to ride a motorcycle in the world.
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XTZ250 Tenere Emissions Standards

Does anyone know if the 250 Tenere have any limitations from being imported from Brazil into the U.S.? This is one beautiful bike and as much as I love my current XT250, the 4 gallon fuel tank, windscreen, and fuel injection would make me love this one even more!

I appreciate any feedback!!

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No need for paying the shipping all the way from Brazil, Mexico has started to sell them. YAMAHA MOTOR DE MEXICO S.A. DE C.V. around USD$5.7k. I'm picking mine up this week!!!
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that's the bike I need! any chance it will be available in Europe or US?
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I bought the new model, with electronic injection, LED flashlights and low emissions and bi-fuel system: gasoline or ethanol.
Little Ténéré

Regarding XTZ250 traditional, it is much more comfortable (anatomical seat and wind protection), has greater autonomy, front lighting is very good and is very economical.
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unless we're talking about 450cc bike I'm not interested. New tenere in Europe will be based on MT07.
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Smaller bikes

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that's the bike I need! any chance it will be available in Europe or US?
It is a pity that nice bikes like these are not availble in Europe.

Honda Cargo 160
Yamaha XTZ 250
....
But it has to do with market I guess.
We (at least in north europe) thinks that anything under 500cc is for kids or girls.
When in reality, these are fantastic bikes.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XTZ_250
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At 151 kg it’s heavier than both the CRF250l and the KLX250 even more so than the WR250R.
Both Honda and Kawasaki are bringing their 300 versions to Europe, which are lighter, and no doubt the Honda will sell in big numbers.
Personally I’m hoping that Yamaha with bring out a 300 Tenere - I’m sure it’s coming, I just hope they don’t drag it out for too long.
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I agree that a the Tenere 300 is the dream.

I really prefer twins over thumpers, since they are way less vibey on long rides. Also with modern twins can give you that nice low end torque that used to be only for thumpers.
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Yamaha XTZ 250

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At 151 kg it’s heavier than both the CRF250l and the KLX250 even more so than the WR250R.
Both Honda and Kawasaki are bringing their 300 versions to Europe, which are lighter, and no doubt the Honda will sell in big numbers.
Personally I’m hoping that Yamaha with bring out a 300 Tenere - I’m sure it’s coming, I just hope they don’t drag it out for too long.
Weight.
Yes it is a couple of kg heavier than CFR 250.
But that is wet. With 8 liters more of fuel.
So it is lighter slightly liter with the same amount of fuel.
And the std XT 250 is even 14 kg lighter.


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Yes, 286 cc has to be better than 249 cc
350 cc has to better than 300 cc
400 even better. Or the old 500.
But there was a 600. But 660 has to be better than 600.
And the new 700 cc better than 660 cc
But wait. There is a 1200 cc. It has to be the best.
If they just could increase the bore to give 1250 cc.
As the largest BMW GS
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Weight.
Yes it is a couple of kg heavier than CFR 250.
But that is wet. With 8 liters more of fuel.
So it is lighter slightly liter with the same amount of fuel.
And the std XT 250 is even 14 kg lighter.


Cubic

Yes, 286 cc has to be better than 249 cc
350 cc has to better than 300 cc
400 even better. Or the old 500.
But there was a 600. But 660 has to be better than 600.
And the new 700 cc better than 660 cc
But wait. There is a 1200 cc. It has to be the best.
If they just could increase the bore to give 1250 cc.
As the largest BMW GS
Its 153 kilos versus 144 - so not just a couple. Anyhow - its not the weight that is the weakest spot on the 250 Tenere imo. Its the engine that has only 20 or 21 HP (depending on where you read) and the fact that it has only 5 speed gearbox.

We all know what the most negative characteristics of a 250 cc are - and that is the limited power and also the power to weight ratio. And in the 250 class the 250 Tenere is the heaviest bike and with the least powerful engine.

Yes - I have ridden one and it felt significantly heavier and slower than my Crf.
Except from that Im sure its an ok bike for what it is....
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