Aprilia Pegaso Trail (660) VS Yamaha XT660Z Tenere
 

There is very little info regarding the Pegaso Trail on the hubb compared to other bikes. This is probably due to them not being very popular.


Well, it has the same engine as the Tenere but it's A LOT cheaper to buy second hand. Literally 1000-1500 cheaper for the same mileage and age.

I know plenty about the Tenere but interested to hear real world Pegaso (660) stories and if anyone has owned both machines.

I found a couple of comparison specs.. Comparativa de YAMAHA XT 660 Z Tenere vs APRILIA Pegaso 650 Trail


The Pegaso is 168kg dry which is consideradly lighter than the tenere at 183kg
The tenere has a 23L tank compared to the Pegasos 16L
Tenere has 21" front wheel compared to the Pegasos 19.

Many thanks, Ted

I think you would be better placed pitching the XT660R against the Pegaso - more of a like-for-like comparison.

When did they start to use the Yam 660? always thought they used the BMW f650.

I had the old peg very briefly and had nothing but problems with it, so swapped it for a tiger.

The peg trail, I rode one on Borneo with: http://www.borneobikingadventures.com whilst oin honeymoon last year.

I felt it lacked a bit of grunt but was enjoyable to ride and felt fine on most of th e surfaces we rode. didn't do anything techincal as we were 2 up for the day tho.

I totally agree with you....

BUT..... I was looking to buy the 660 Tenere as a first choice but used prices are still around the £4000 mark and even the 660R goes for 3000-3500.. The pegasos are about for the £2000 mark which is my current budget for a second bike.

Thats a fair point Ted.

I've just had a look around and the prices are just daft, I've got 24k miles on mine, it's 3 years old (nearly) and I reckon it's cost me about £1k in lost value if the current prices are reached..... That's the closest I've come to making money on a bike in,,, erm lots of years!


JMo's fine machine is still for sale, though I think it's beyond your budgetdoh

..and I did see this on EvilBay -> Yamaha XT660R 2006 06reg BLUE CLEAN BIKE 12M.O.T on eBay (end time 02-Apr-11 11:33:23 BST)

Hi Ted

if it help's I have had a XT660R and now a XT660Z.

the R was used for two up touring doing over 5500 miles in 3 weeks 2 up. and still getting over 70mpg . I also entered a off road event on it.
It's a good bike.

The Z does all of that just a bit better.


If you look around you can still get a 08 Tenere for £3500.

Your right you can get a R for more than a £1000 less. If your doing most of your riding solo then the R will do it all.

Please under no circumstances consider a Pegaso. I bought one myself and it was the worst bike I have ever owned. I have had 5 Pegs of varying years from 95 onwards and they have always been good fire-road bikes, capable of a decent turn of speed and quite reliable other than a faulty water-pump, a common snag. They had a 5 valve rotax head instead of the 4 valve unit BMW fitted to the funduro. It made it a little quicker but cost more to run, either way it was still fine. The Cube was a great all rounder, faster than most bikes in the same class.
Eventually I bought the Trail. Different bike altogether. Build quality is absolutely appalling. My problems began with brake light switches going. The front crumbled into bits, the back snapped in half. I replaced them with upgraded switches. Next it fell off the stand at work (was pushed I think) and fell onto an old abandoned sofa. It tore off a mirror and did damage to the pegs. That worried me a lot, a tiny fall did a lot of damage and it fell on soft foam.
Then I used it through the winter and the engine finish peeled visibly off the bike. After that I tried to fit a power commander. Now on early bikes you have no choice, they simply will not run without it, later ones with 02 sensor you can't. Suddenly the bike stalled, died and never ran again. It intermittently showed fault codes for a failed temperature sensor and three other sensors as well as suddenly was not able to read the chip in the key. Then I found out on the various forums that this is a common fuel pump fault. The pump is 2 electric toy-car motors in a polythene bag. Nothing got it working but along the way I was horrified at the corners cut in the building of this bike. In the end a workaround fix was to kick the side of the tank where the pump was and yes, it ran again for an hour or so but when it rained the key sensor died. After doing some homework on the Aprillia forum this is a common fault, there are many more. The owners are oddly in love with their bikes but at one point the top 5 posts on the Pegaso forum was fuel pump failures.
I got burned on mine so please consider this when thinking of these bikes. They're also expensive to run, not as quick as an XT for some reason and the accessories are hard to find and Aprillia ones broke (mine did).
Your money is better spent elsewhere. I'm sorry for anyone who has one but when i did my homework trying to fix mine I found a lot out about these machines. 2 guys on the Aprillia forum used them to go over South America. 1 did break down several times.
Sorry guys... just don't do it...

Thanks so much for the info.. After reading some forums and other owner reviews, I feared this...

This is obviously why they're £1000 cheaper than an XT660 for the same miles/year..

Cheers again, Ted

I was so disappointed. I have had 4 of these before, my favourite being the 95 just because it looked so good, had real usability and was very easy to work on.
Myself, my brother and uncle went out together for a ride, my brother on a Tenere, my uncle on an XT and the Peg did not have as much go in it which was silly, it has the same state of tune and is lighter.
The shame is that it's a lovely comfortable machine that handles well. It ticked all my boxes until things started going wrong. Sadly there is a reason they're cheaper. Ironically I now have a BMW G650 X which is built in the same factory at the same time and it's actually the best bike I've had. Worth noting that I go to the motorcycle auctions and they can be had for roughly the same price as a Peg now. They just never caught on.
When it comes to the Tenere my brother did't have it long. He said it felt heavy and breathless, the build quality and finish was poor and he actually had 2 minor spills on it which is odd, he never crashes. Twice someone pulled out on him and he ditched the bike, he said it was just too heavy to pull round the obstacle and he dropped it. In respect to the bike there was virtually no damage, the hard panels did their magic. I think they're a great adv tourer which could maybe do with more power. Shame they never fitted it with the TDM 900 engine. None of us would be buying anything else.

I hadn't considered the 650X..I might have a look :thumbup1:

It is a great machine with some significant design drawbacks such as a weak alloy subframe which is no use for luggage and a tiny 9.5l tank. Deal with those and it's a great little bike. I'm as happy as a lobotomised monkey with mine.

Is yours the Country or the challenge ??

I'm used to alloy subframes and pack light accordingly. Don't the newer models have a steel subframe ?? Or is that just the country? I'm not sure !!

I hear MPG is AWESOME, getting 200 miles from a tank ? Really ??

I like the fact it's got a Rotax engine and they seem to have ironed out all the problems of the earlier F650GS donkey...(please ppl, no turning this into a F650 thread)..

Ted

You should read 'The hunt for Puerto Del Faglioli'. Paddy Tyson had plenty to say about the Peg. I have a Tenere and am very happy with it. Went 2 up fully loaded Ushuaia to Alaska. The rectifier packed up after about 17,000 miles but thats understandable after the miles. I think there is a simple reason you dont see many Pegs on the road !

I'm finding many posts from this individual on any forum mentioning Aprilia Pegaso's.

I've had mine for 3 years, and have not had a single issue with failures that were not brought on by my own abuse of the machine. And I ride the crap out of it on forestry trails. Suspension's too short for that, poor thing..... Also Paddy rode the old Rotax engined bike. Never owned one, so can't comment.

They're cheap because no-one knows about them as they're not marketed well. Other than that, for no great reason. The rear frame bolts need to be locktighted or they come loose. The fuel pump will fail around 30,000kms and is easily replaced with whatever, someone with some reasonable motor skills can adapt in a new pump from another machine as the factory one is small as it's designed to fit in with a fuel gauge on other models. Trail doesn't have a fuel gauge. The instrument cluster will take in steam from the exhaust if you go through water or wash it hot. It's a doddle to remove and seal it. If you don't, the cluster will fail.
The front forks are 45mm, larger than many others, and the bike doesn't look like a science experiment. The engine is the same 660cc Minarelli found in the current Tenere and pulls like a 15 year old boy. As with all bikes, free up the intake and exhaust and fit a PC3 and even better. The injection system works fine, some complain of a miss around 4,000RPM but mine doesn't have this issue. Brakes are good Brembo's.

I think you'll find there are more posts about G650 and F800 BMW failures than are any about Pegaso's, when considering them the trick is to make sure the 'drama' posts aren't from the same person........doh

NOT AGAIN. is this where I should be.......... ?? thanks. john

If you're looking about information on Aprilia, you could ask here or on the manufacturer specific catagory.

Yeah, but the next time you abuse it ´till it breaks down, why not try coming here on the net, and telling _your_ version of the story, how it happened (crappy machine/manufacturer/tyres/gear, etc - pick any one, or create your very own culprit here!)... a lot of people do that, so it surely must be relieving :rofl:

Would be interesting to know, what percentage of all techical troubles with today´s bikes are actually caused by a user error, but claimed to be from something else.

The funniest case I´ve heard of, was probably a "rusty swingarm" on a 1250 Bandit, the owner was oh so furious at a dealership, it was a 6 months old bike, and he naturally wanted it covered under warranty. Had already spread his frustration around the web, too.

Turned out there was absolutely nothing wrong with the swingarm... but the chain was totally wasted after some 4-5000 kms. He didn´t know, that you´d have to lubricate it every once in a while! So the chain had rusted, and flakes had fallen on to the swingarm. I dont believe he got a new chain on warranty either.

You're right, they're lightweight motorcycles and not tanks. I read some of the reviews for whitegoods before buying, you have to ignore a large percentage of the reviews due to numptiness......:helpsmilie:


And back to topic, the Aprilia is significantly cheaper out here, and I don't really see the Yam as the 'better' bike anyways, so my opinion is toward the Aprilia.

This is the usual head-in-the-sand idiocy you get from pegaso owners. You always get the same rubbish, "i've got one, it's fine!" is their logical argument why you must have one. The forum is so full of stupidity I left, after reading about someone comparing his to a KTM duke and having no idea why the bike couldn't handle a 40% power increase I figured the best thing to do was leave them to it and let them kill themselves and strengthen the gene pool for the rest of us.
Simply my problems were common faults. Google them, search the forums. Do I hate these bikes, certainly. I would never buy Aprilia again. I have had 3 BMWs, 2 were rubbish. You have to shop around bike by bike, model by model to find a good machine. Interesting fact for the peg-boys, my G650 was built in the Aprilia factory to german specs at a price tag of twice the italian bikes and the quality shows. If it was assembled in China or Poland I wouldn't touch it, I wouldn't buy a Yamaha 660 because they're not assembled in Japan (Tenere is assembled in France and has major build quality issues.) There is homework to be done when buying a bike. Sad but true. No manufacturer can be trusted any more but there is not one Aprilia that can be trusted. The pegaso was a dire machine, you have one and that's your bad luck. I made the same mistake and lost a packet on it because I scrapped it, I would not sell a bike like that to a person in the same position as me.
To say the G650 fails more often is basically a childish response not backed up by any realistic evidence. There is a common fault in the water-pump but that is the older GS, not the X which has a slightly different engine. In fact the XT660 engine is old and crude. Expensive to run and pretty low on power. Ride the new BMW 650gs and see it's quicker and feels lighter even with less bhp, it also delivers an average 30% to 40% better fuel economy than the Peg. Mine is better than that, even when it was restricted to 33bhp when i first got it it was still quicker than the Peg and has not had 1 issue in a year. I'm not thinking of buying a BMW 650gs so have not done a lot of research so don't assume I'm suggeting you buy one.
Looking forward I have an idea we may be seeing a new Pegaso pretty soon. BMW have just brought out a new G650gs, the same exact bike as the old model and the same exact engine my old 95 and cubes were based on. I wouldn't be surprised if a new peg comes out based on this and I will watch with interest.

*Yawn*

I guess we can all go and buy a POS bike from the auctions (that was probably was submerged by its prior owner and dumped there for some unsuspecting individual to get a 'bargain') then take it home and decide it's the worst pile of rubbish on the planet and then spout off how this one machine is the evidence required to prove the entire marque is made of old boots and cheese. Now THAT'S childish.
I don't actually have a soft spot for Aprilia. I just happened to pick one up cheap and it's been good. In fact, absolutely none of the issues others have had has affected mine at all. Sorry about that, I didn't mean to buy a good one and then dare to tell others and disprove your comments..........

So a dud was bought. Who's fault is that? As for comparing these things to a KTM, I agree that's being silly. But if you're after a cheap DP to see if this is the style of bike you're after, it's an inexpensive place to start. Or you could spend more on something else, it's up to you!

No. Learn to read. I have had 5 pegs. The latest one is a dud, they fall to bits due to being built to a cost. Whatever other crap you just spouted came from your head. Do some research and if you're serious about bikes then buy a serious bike. Aprilia don't even take this machine seriously.

Seriously, you bought a turd. Then you were silly enough to take it to your local church to have it exorcised before dismembering it. Brilliant stuff. 30-40% better fuel economy from other bikes? Surely that was a give away that you had a sensor failure in the EFI?

Back to the question the thread was asking: I bought my Trail at an insurance auction. It came with a broken front guard, scratches, bent forks, bent bars, snapped radiator bracket and the steering stop busted off the lower tree, all this from the previous owner running out of talent with under 6,000kms on it. Fixed it, goes well and now has 28,000kms on it. And that's pure, unadulterated, fact.

I'm waiting for stuff to fail, and other than my instruments getting a bit of condensation from a creek crossing, nothing has. Nothing at all. By the account prior, I should have been attacked by demons and had my balls blowtorched just by riding it. So what am I doing wrong!? Why won't the f'n thing break!? The internet says it should, so why won't it!?

I only chose this thing due to it being so cheap I can treat it the way I want and not give a rats. It's working out just fine for me. If you prefer BMW/KTM/Yamaha it's entirely up to the individual. I'd prefer a KTM, but I won't get one this cheap.

Anyways, that'll do for me and I wish all to enjoy whatever bike they choose. And when buying second hand, remember caveat emptor. Often what you're buying isn't quite what left the factory........

Come along now gents !! Just because I started this thread doesn't mean it needs to turn into a bitch slap :rofl:..

There is A LOT of truth in what JTW000 about bike owners with their rose tinted glasses on..

You just can't tell some owners that the bike that they researched, tested , saved for and road tested is a poorly made piece of sh*t.. That is RIFE in the hubb along with most bike/car/4x4 forums..

You only need to mention "BMW" and "problem" in the same sentence on some forums and you might as well be trying to sell Hotdogs at a Jewish wedding.

It's very hard to get a subjective opinion on any lesuire product without stiring a lot of emotion. You have to look at the machine as a tool and not your pride and joy..

By no means am I applying this directly to "notagain"....

I know a lot about Aprilia. I used to sell them .. The build quality is shocking on most of their models. I only considered buying the Peg because it was £1000 cheaper than it's rivals. After a lot of owner reviews from MANY sources it does seem they're riddled with problems and not worth my effort.

That doesn't mean that some of them don't last very well and have zero problems for their whole life.

Agreed, and I sure won't be referring to mine as a pride and joy any time soon and I would be more than happy to report it had given trouble. It's just that it hasn't. One could take from that they're not all bad? Just putting it out there.....
But if the Yammie is totally faultless, then even if it's that much dearer, why not buy that?

There ain't a bike out there which is totally faultless...

You just need to weigh up the pro's and cons of the bikes and how hard it would be to fix that issue, if and when it occurs !

I'd rather travel on a Pegaso which I can fix with a 20 min fuel pump change than an older F650 that I have to take half apart to change the water pump.

If you're going to prep a bike then on an F650gs you simply swap out out the water pump. The Aprilia fuel pump is £600. You can actually buy a servicable XT600 for that money.
All bikes have some issues. The Tenere has several problems, build quality, rectifier and cam chain. The guys using them for touring expect them to be dead at 20000 miles. Great for a company, not so great for us. Refinish it and sort the issues and it's a good bike.
BMW do not generally make good bikes. This is a fact. The singles were good, the F800gs and the R1200gs are riddled with issues and simply not good bikes. I've had both, both gave trouble, when researching I found more and more problems. The bike I have has a whole different set of problems but I bought it because none of them were mechanical. Issues with mine were silly costs when new, tiny fuel tank, rubbish suspension and availabilty of parts. I've had to address that.
The pegaso has an insane amount of issues, it's built to a cost and heavily compromised as I discovered.
The best all-rounder is the F650gs single, ideally the Dakar. For my money, the earlier ones with carbs, nice and easy to work on, cheap to run and reliable but it's not the best, all bikes are a compromise in some way. Personally I would rather compromise cost and pay a bit more for quality and peace of mind and now the BMW X range is actually very cheap to buy so an all-round result. not that it's right for everyone, it needs a lot of money spent to make it a viable travel machine. That was my preferred choice. Just whatever you do please discount the Peg. It's a pig.

Oh dear, how can I put this ?

Erm, No, and no it doesn't.

It is assembled in Spain (earlier models were done in Italy). Production is MOVING to france.

I'm afraid your heresay falls short of reality.

Just to stir up the beehive again, my mate has just returned from 42,000 miles RTW on an 08 Tenere. He is a novice mechanically, fairly new to riding and not too anal about servicing etc. His bike needed new headstock bearings a couple of new chain and sprocket kits and 3 sets of Metzeler Tourances. I know what my next bike will be!

A Pegaso?:biggrin:

If you take the time to read this guys posts on the Pegaso forum you'll find that he was actually quite happy with the bike. His problems really started after his attempts to work on the bike.

Its not a perfect bike. Mine has 72,000km. I've just replaced the fuel pump with one from a BMW F650 - $50 second hand. It does need a Power Commander, but that solved 98% of the surging issues. My bike has left me stranded three times. One flat tyre, once the solder failed in the ignition switch, and once the clutch cable broke. One of those issues can be attributed to the bike, the others are consumables.

Its not perfect. There are some lousy electrical connections, e.g. in the belly pan, just like in the Tenere. Fuel pumps do fail. And I think the dash is vulnerable to water.

Would I ride it round the world, may be not - I would prefer the original Funduro for fixability. But I once rode from Buenos Aires to Ushuaia and back on a hired Transalp - the Peg would have been a better bike. Two Pegs have just been ridden through the States to the bottom of Patagonia - the only serious problem was that one shock failed.

All bikes have issues. All models have Friday afternoon bikes that cause problems. Perhaps JTW had one of those, perhaps some of the problems were self-inflicted. I've ridden 72,000km largely trouble free in less than four years, doing all my own maintenance. I'm happy and will keep it for a few years yet.

I must admit to being a little frustrated by JTW's one-man crusade against this bike.

To fair it out a little, if you read online reviews from its owners and all the info on the forums, the little Peg seems to have more enemies than friends..

Nice to hear your's has been a trooper though.

Pheeew
 

Look boys and girls, at the end of the day they are only metal and plastic things that hopefully get you from A to B.

OOOOHH, YOU ARE AWWFULL, BUT I LIKE YOU.

Just buy the Yammie already..... Much better bet given more spares/service availability.

how about the MZ with the yamaha engine, can pick them up cheaply

Ahhhh these ones ??? I've never seen one in the flesh. Pretty rare aren't they. I can't say I know a single thing about them.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...astiff_660.jpg

they go pretty cheaply on ebay, usually with low milage. has the yamaha engine. you should check it out, I recon its good value for money

Thanks mate. I'll keep an eye open for one ! :thumbup1:

Don't know that it's a step in the right direction?

MZ Baghira Pro's or con's??

Even more obscure than the Pegaso and now the factory is closed, or (at best) just making scooters. In any event, different company now. One can only assume they went broke during the GFC and the later machines are unlikely to be their finest.

RTW= Best dealer support = Yamaha

Local rides = Road service membership = Whatever's cheap and will do the job

My head says NO NO NO !!

My heart says MAYBE !!! doh

The MZ has an earlier engine with carbs, not EFI. That may be a benefit or not, depending on your opinion but the engine has a good reputation either way. The other snag with the bike is a smallish tank and choice of factory wheels, I don't think there's a 21" option available... could be wrong. I like these bikes though but have never had one. It's a bike I've often looked at.

a small dealer in Germany can do this for about Euro 4000.- (without bike)

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I had a 2003 Mastiff,

Pro...Great vibey yamaha engine, pulled like a train and was good fun to ride.

Con....drank like a fish and terrible electrics.!

It was more supermoto style which may explain the fuel consumption and the gearing. It gave me a smile to ride but left me stranded more than one occasion!
I ditched it for the Tenere.

Hope it's not too late but have you considered the XT600E? Aircooled, pretty much indestructable engine, and built until 2004 when the XT660R hit the shelves. A bit more vibey than the 660 engine, 2hp less (46hp vs. 48hp), not sure about torque. I've owned a 600cc 3AJ Tenere and have nothing bad to say about the engine or the bike in general. The fuel pump on the 3AJ model was crap but I ditched it during a roadside repair in heavy rain in eastern Poland and replaced it with a gravity assisted non-mechanical non-electric non-hydraulic rubber tube. As far as I know the XT600E doesn't have a fuel pump plus you can actually add a kickstart, which is impossible with the watercooled 660cc engines.

I bought a 2009 XT660Z Ténéré in October 2010 after selling the GS and already there are a few things I don't like about it, and a few design choices I cannot fully understand. Like having to take off the side stand in order to take reach the gear lever screw... Other than that I haven't had it long enough to either recommend it or warn you about it, but if reading on the specific bike/brand forums is any sort of indication of what awaits me then :thumbup1::D

I've had three XT600's ! Two E's are an old 86 ! Great bikes but it just hasn't got the legs for long long days. I've got the DRZ400 for "go slow" days.

I might end up building my own bespoke bike :)

I'd say the difference, engine wise, between the old aircooled 600cc single and the new watercooled 660cc single is negligible. If you liked the old engines you'll love the new one. If hated'em you'll dislike the new one. It's that simple. In terms of comfort the new Ténéré kicks every XT600's ass big time for sure.

Seems to me that you're looking for something that complements your DRZ400. I went the other way around - bought the Ténéré first and the DR350S sidekick a few months after that. I can assure you they work great together - one for solo fun in the dirt the other for long distance travelling, comfortable touring or two-up fun in the dirt :punk:

Well that's exactly it... I need something to compliment my DRZ. Something with some decent mile munching capability which can still take on a rutted track or gravel road when I get there.

Maybe i'll just go crazy and buy an old R1 :smartass:

How about a Transalp? Or Africa Twin? Or late 90s Super Ténéré?

Transalp is high on my list.. I've had three Africa Twins already. 750 Tenere is an idea but there only seem to be high mileage scrappers about now !!

Man... I really can't decide whether you're more like a spoiled rich kid or more like Paris Hilton. Either way, you've had'em all :rofl:

The good thing about the 750 ST is that they're dirt cheap. I'm pretty sure you'll find a decent one if you wait and look around. I've met an Australian couple last year who own four or five of them (Pat and Bin), one on each continent, and travel the world on'em. Very reliable and comfy, good engine, and, according to Pat, dirt cheap. Maybe not in the UK though.

lol.. I wish ! I've had loads of bikes but they've all been pretty cheap. I usually make a small profit doing up bikes and selling them on so I go through a lot... I also worked in motorcycle sales for a large dealership so had a choice of the cheap PX's etc etc.. :)

1st, I'll apologise for bringing an old thread to life.

I'm not sure how I missed this thread, and this post, unless it was because my wife and I were riding the 2 Pegs mentioned and were in Patagonia on them at the time.

Lets look at the "1 did break down several times", hmmm, not really. Mine had an electrical failure in the US, a short on pin 17 as it turned out (in the clocks I think) so we bypassed it.

After a 28Km ride over cobbles in Mexico I had a running issue, which was a spark plug issue. This was followed by the connector coming lose on the coil.

I also had an intermittent brake light issue which I finally found the loose connector for while in Peru.

So, that is 1 breakdown and a couple of minor tweaks.

I also crashed it into the back of a GS1200, twice, in 1 day. And came off in Argentina and France.

My wife had the most serious break down when her shock broke in Patagonia and we had to get it fixed. (As she had to do 200 kms on the back of the truck I can claim only I did the entire trip :-) )

There were other minor issues, caused by us and not the bikes.

On the fuel pump issue, this is a minor one. It is not as wide spread as some claim. And no other than JT seems to have had the plastic bag wrapped issue.

How many people know that the Tenere 660 had a known fault with the electrics that needed a recall ?

On the flat spot needing a Power Commander issue, I do not know why people waste money on such things. I just added a K&N to both bikes, it moved the flat spot down a bit and we never ride at those revs..

While we were away 2 BMWs were stuck in Lima with broken motors, so no bikes are perfect.

The bikes made it home. They are still running (yes I have had a couple of issues with mine since the return, but I used most of the winter as well). We are now planning more trips with them.

Did I trust mine when I started ? No. Do I have faith in it now ? No more than any other bike.

So, if a Peg is all you can afford, get one. Prep it, use it and care for it.

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That's not too shabby.

Vette

I rode a pegaso trail in Borneo for a day, there's a tour company out there that uses them:

Borneo Biking Adventures

It was a lovely bike to ride, Comforable enough two up for a days ride. didn't do much gravel roads but what I did do it seemed comfortable enough. I think It's a vastly under rated bike and given the price they sell for I would definietly consider one.

And now to bring the thread back to life once more :-)

I've just ridden mine RTW , Canada->Russia->Home.

It is still working, OK I had 4 breakdowns. 2 electrical, quick fixes and 1 fuel pump (finally after nearly 60,000 miles it broke and I got to use the spare :-) )

Last break down was due to a worn ignition barrel. Mate was also on a Peg, he is still riding (he fancied doing the entire width of Europe as well).

I am planning on more trips on it :-


If Ed March can ride his C90 to the Nordkapp in winter, any bike can go any where.