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After that I tried to fit a power commander. Now on early bikes you have no choice, they simply will not run without it, later ones with 02 sensor you can't. Suddenly the bike stalled, died and never ran again. It intermittently showed fault codes for a failed temperature sensor and three other sensors as well as suddenly was not able to read the chip in the key. ...
If you take the time to read this guys posts on the Pegaso forum you'll find that he was actually quite happy with the bike. His problems really started after his attempts to work on the bike.

Its not a perfect bike. Mine has 72,000km. I've just replaced the fuel pump with one from a BMW F650 - $50 second hand. It does need a Power Commander, but that solved 98% of the surging issues. My bike has left me stranded three times. One flat tyre, once the solder failed in the ignition switch, and once the clutch cable broke. One of those issues can be attributed to the bike, the others are consumables.

Its not perfect. There are some lousy electrical connections, e.g. in the belly pan, just like in the Tenere. Fuel pumps do fail. And I think the dash is vulnerable to water.

Would I ride it round the world, may be not - I would prefer the original Funduro for fixability. But I once rode from Buenos Aires to Ushuaia and back on a hired Transalp - the Peg would have been a better bike. Two Pegs have just been ridden through the States to the bottom of Patagonia - the only serious problem was that one shock failed.

All bikes have issues. All models have Friday afternoon bikes that cause problems. Perhaps JTW had one of those, perhaps some of the problems were self-inflicted. I've ridden 72,000km largely trouble free in less than four years, doing all my own maintenance. I'm happy and will keep it for a few years yet.

I must admit to being a little frustrated by JTW's one-man crusade against this bike.

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I must admit to being a little frustrated by JTW's one-man crusade against this bike.
To fair it out a little, if you read online reviews from its owners and all the info on the forums, the little Peg seems to have more enemies than friends..

Nice to hear your's has been a trooper though.
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Never ever trust the opinion of a man who owns the bike you're asking about currently. You will almost always get an inflated opinion of it. Never trust the opinion of a man about a bike unless he has done at least some work on it. Never trust the opinion of a man who likes a Pegaso.
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Just buy the Yammie already..... Much better bet given more spares/service availability.

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how about the MZ with the yamaha engine, can pick them up cheaply
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how about the MZ with the yamaha engine, can pick them up cheaply
Ahhhh these ones ??? I've never seen one in the flesh. Pretty rare aren't they. I can't say I know a single thing about them.

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they go pretty cheaply on ebay, usually with low milage. has the yamaha engine. you should check it out, I recon its good value for money
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they go pretty cheaply on ebay, usually with low milage. has the yamaha engine. you should check it out, I recon its good value for money
Thanks mate. I'll keep an eye open for one !
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Don't know that it's a step in the right direction?

MZ Baghira Pro's or con's??

Even more obscure than the Pegaso and now the factory is closed, or (at best) just making scooters. In any event, different company now. One can only assume they went broke during the GFC and the later machines are unlikely to be their finest.

RTW= Best dealer support = Yamaha

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Don't know that it's a step in the right direction?

MZ Baghira Pro's or con's??

Even more obscure than the Pegaso and now the factory is closed, or (at best) just making scooters. In any event, different company now. One can only assume they went broke during the GFC and the later machines are unlikely to be their finest.

RTW= Best dealer support = Yamaha

Local rides = Road service membership = Whatever's cheap and will do the job
My head says NO NO NO !!

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The MZ has an earlier engine with carbs, not EFI. That may be a benefit or not, depending on your opinion but the engine has a good reputation either way. The other snag with the bike is a smallish tank and choice of factory wheels, I don't think there's a 21" option available... could be wrong. I like these bikes though but have never had one. It's a bike I've often looked at.
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a small dealer in Germany can do this for about Euro 4000.- (without bike)

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Baghira

I had a 2003 Mastiff,

Pro...Great vibey yamaha engine, pulled like a train and was good fun to ride.

Con....drank like a fish and terrible electrics.!

It was more supermoto style which may explain the fuel consumption and the gearing. It gave me a smile to ride but left me stranded more than one occasion!
I ditched it for the Tenere.
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Hope it's not too late but have you considered the XT600E? Aircooled, pretty much indestructable engine, and built until 2004 when the XT660R hit the shelves. A bit more vibey than the 660 engine, 2hp less (46hp vs. 48hp), not sure about torque. I've owned a 600cc 3AJ Tenere and have nothing bad to say about the engine or the bike in general. The fuel pump on the 3AJ model was crap but I ditched it during a roadside repair in heavy rain in eastern Poland and replaced it with a gravity assisted non-mechanical non-electric non-hydraulic rubber tube. As far as I know the XT600E doesn't have a fuel pump plus you can actually add a kickstart, which is impossible with the watercooled 660cc engines.

I bought a 2009 XT660Z Ténéré in October 2010 after selling the GS and already there are a few things I don't like about it, and a few design choices I cannot fully understand. Like having to take off the side stand in order to take reach the gear lever screw... Other than that I haven't had it long enough to either recommend it or warn you about it, but if reading on the specific bike/brand forums is any sort of indication of what awaits me then
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