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Old 12 Feb 2013
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An all purpose bike (125cc)

Hello, I am currently considering purchasing a 125cc due to the cost, fuel and engine life-stability. I am currently living in México and the roads here, well they are not very well ¨paved¨ so to say, although the majority are concrete. (I live off a dirt road actually.) I will be using the bike to run basic errands in the city and travel, which will involve ¨off road¨ type conditions most certainly, however I should think that mostly it will be concrete-stone type streets however not well maintained.

Anyways I am looking at Yamahas right now, and I´ve heard good things about the YBR 125, which made me interested in the YRB 125G, however I went in to the Yamaha dealership today and the guy told me the only difference really between the YBR 125G and the YBR125 R are the tires (the YRB125G having off road tires)...I did notice various differences such as a different design, handle protectors, a mud catching device on the front wheel etc...Those don´t seem too important to me, however the tires I am thinking about....The tires on the YBR125G are as I mentioned more off road tires, and I was told there that the tires on the YBR125R are more fit for what I´m looking for, because they´d have more traction on stone-concrete etc...and obviously more life in them aswell. Apparently the motors are all the same (in the YBR 125´s that is).

Also what is recommended solid rims, or spoke rims for an all purpose bke?


YBR 125 G
YAMAHA MOTOR DE MEXICO S.A. DE C.V.

YBR 125 R
YAMAHA MOTOR DE MEXICO S.A. DE C.V.

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On a bike that will be used offroad at some point it has to be 'spoked' rims, they can be repaired/replaced, the YBR125(I have cast wheels, and its a road version) is a pretty good. solid bike, mine came up at the right place, cost and time but if I wanted another 125 the Honda CG125 would be my preference, btw I get an easy 100mpg(UK) from it regular.


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Xr125l

That's my ride. Have one since July 2012. Almost 17,000 kms. Average 150kms/g. Comfortable both on dirt and tarmac. Great for city traffic. Excellent ergos for someone my size. 145 lbs 5'7". But the bike behaves really well with two up and a total carrying payload of about 300 lbs (tested). The YBR is a very good bike, but I my opinion is that it is too low to the ground for me. Also, it is a road/delivery bike adapted to dirt road applications. I do believe that the G has longer fork tubes, and all the protection and racks are very useful. The front light of the YBR is also much better than the XR. I live in Guatemala City, use the bike for daily chores and for fun. Done 700 kms in one day and I have no complaints about it....
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On a bike that will be used offroad at some point it has to be 'spoked' rims, they can be repaired/replaced, the YBR125(I have cast wheels, and its a road version) is a pretty good. solid bike, mine came up at the right place, cost and time but if I wanted another 125 the Honda CG125 would be my preference, btw I get an easy 100mpg(UK) from it regular.

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That's my ride. Have one since July 2012. Almost 17,000 kms. Average 150kms/g. Comfortable both on dirt and tarmac. Great for city traffic. Excellent ergos for someone my size. 145 lbs 5'7". But the bike behaves really well with two up and a total carrying payload of about 300 lbs (tested). The YBR is a very good bike, but I my opinion is that it is too low to the ground for me. Also, it is a road/delivery bike adapted to dirt road applications. I do believe that the G has longer fork tubes, and all the protection and racks are very useful. The front light of the YBR is also much better than the XR. I live in Guatemala City, use the bike for daily chores and for fun. Done 700 kms in one day and I have no complaints about it....
So it is recommended that if I do plan on doing even some minor off roading I should have spoked rims in stead of the solid rims?

Also what about the tires? The YBR 125G interests me, but I was told that being as it has off road tires they will not perfom as well on concrete-stone roads?????

By the way I do not think that they sell he Honda CG 125 here in México, I´ve only seen the CGL 125 TOOL, and I doubt that´s the same as the CG 125..or is it? Cause the CGL 125 TOOL is the cheapest of all the bikes I´ve been looking at...around 700 dolars cheaper
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The CGL tool to my knowledge is very similar(think it is the same engine) to say the 125 CG sold in Chile for example. I'm pretty sure Simon Gandolfini(check out his blog/books) bought his CG in Mexico. I would go for the Honda CGL TOOL over the Yamaha as well.
I have only heard good things about this bike from people who have taken it on long trips in all sorts of conditions.
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Here is a thread from ADVrider on the CGL

Know anything about the Honda CGL 125? - ADVrider

Seems the CGL is made in China. The CG Cargo from Brasil is made in brasil and known to be bulletproof. The CG made in Chile also seems to be well built.
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The Honda Cargo which is sold here is the Honda CG125. I have a suzuki CGN125 which has been very reliable. My wife has a honda cgl125 tool which is as well made or possibly better made and costs a lot less. If I were to buy a 125 again I would go with the Honda Tool.
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The Honda Cargo which is sold here is the Honda CG125. I have a suzuki CGN125 which has been very reliable. My wife has a honda cgl125 tool which is as well made or possibly better made and costs a lot less. If I were to buy a 125 again I would go with the Honda Tool.
Right, but would you recommend the CGL tool for an all purpose bike? For some off road, highway (poor highways at that) and city. I´m not expecting to do motorcross or anything like that, but I am hoping to be able to at least be able to go on various dirt roads and have no problem.

Because I am now seriously thinking about the CGL 125 TOOL due to the reliability that I´ve been hearing and it´s low cost. (Cheapest of all the bikes)

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The CGL tool to my knowledge is very similar(think it is the same engine) to say the 125 CG sold in Chile for example. I'm pretty sure Simon Gandolfini(check out his blog/books) bought his CG in Mexico. I would go for the Honda CGL TOOL over the Yamaha as well.
I have only heard good things about this bike from people who have taken it on long trips in all sorts of conditions.
You´ve heard good things about the CGL 125 TOOL in regards to taking it on long trips? Other than the guy that went from Chile to Texas I haven´t really been able to find anything on the internet...

I guess I am kind of thinking now between the Yamaha YBR 125 and the Honda CGL 125 TOOL, however the YBR costs about 550 dollars more, is it really worth it?

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Im presuming the YBR is fuel injection and the CGL Carb's?
Pros and cons there for both.

Considering that both are leading brand motorcycles with similar capacity, given they are already at the lower end of the scale $ wise the price difference is considerable. I personally would go for the Honda based on that alone.
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I´m pretty sure they are both carbs.

Also, is there really that much of a difference between the Honda CGL125 TOOL motor that is 9.7hp and the Yamaha YBR 125 motor that is around 12 hp? Cause that´s kind of the deciding factor right now for me I think....being as the CGL is around $550 USD cheaper.
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I´m really thinking about the posability of buying the XR125L right now....I suppose it´s about another $800usd...but probably worth it if I plan on doing any off roading what so ever...
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