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After market exhaust in Europe

Can anyone clarify if there is a restriction on after market exhaust systems on motorcycles shipped into the EU? I think I read some time ago, that only stock exhaust systems are permitted. I'm looking at a 2007 BMW 800S with a Two Brother exhaust system.
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I'll give you a very quick answer, but I'm sure others will chime in if I'm wrong or to give further details.

In short: if it's a temporary import then nobody cares, as long as it's legal in your own country.
Otherwise, if you're planning on registering it permanently in an EU country, then you may have a problem.
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CE approval?

I have no idea if EU countries track such imports or if they require certification before these imports are allowed. Some states may, some may not.

Keep in mind, MOST (but not all) aftermarket exhausts Made In USA are technically illegal. That is, they are NOT "Type approved" by the EPA or CARB (in California) for your bike. Even though the exhausts are illegal, thousands are sold and shipped out every day.

The EPA (environmental protection agency) have only prosecuted a few key US manufacturers ... mostly those supplying Pipes for Harley's, like Cobra, Vance & Hines and a few others. Warnings have been issued to others ... yet business continues to thrive. How?

They sell them with the designation : OFF ROAD/RACING USE ONLY

Once on the bike, here in USA there is (for now) no real enforcement.

But Europe is a different world. I've no idea how things work regards the importation of aftermarket exhausts. If the manufacturers designate your pipe as 'Racing only" then perhaps it can get through? A dealer could probably import it. Or perhaps they don't even enforce or don't have such restrictions?

But if your country has annual inspections like the MOT in the UK, then they could catch you out ... if they restrict non
standard exhausts. Most US states have no such inspections, some have SMOG checks, but not sure if they flag illegal pipes or not. In California we have no such annual checks for bikes ... YET!

If me, I'd buy a quality Euro made and approved system like from Austrian Remus. Another is Akrapovich. Both, IMHO, better quality than anything Two Brothers make, who are "average" at best.
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basically any exhaust imported into the eu must be stamped and have a certificate with it re homoglation . to get round the noise regs most pipes have removable baffles with the usual dont use on a road etc etc .
my understanding re germany is that it must be TUV approved and that changing bike parts from standard is a bit of a minefield . I do know that technically you should carry the certificate that comes with the pipe with you in europe as the bike could be impounded in some countries as it isnt standard
If you are bringing the vehicle into the UK i dont believe you will have any issues as long as the noise isnt excessive .
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Thanks for the input. I have decided to make sure any bike I take overseas will have a stock exhaust system. No need to complicate life unnecessarily.
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(E) stamped is required. It does not need TÜV for Germany if it has (E), but the police might like it more if you find one which is TÜV :-D

(E) is EU certified, and any certified testing center in EU can do it, the reason why everyone talk about TÜV is that Germany wrote the books, are still is the biggest marked in Europe....
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