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125cc Touring

Hello from forces Germany . I am noticing more and more people taking interest in touring 125s. I have had many bikes over the years but my favorite has to be my cbf 125. i have toured on this bike for for two years whilst back home in Scotland whilst on leave. I got a very good deal for Ā£500 due to cosmetic damage and with a cbt costing Ā£90 its definitely not the most expensive sport to get into. I have created a face book page for like minded Learner Legal Adventurer Touring enthusiasts . So feel free to join the page i would love to have a place to plan trips and meet people.
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Excellent idea. Liked your FB page.
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Great it would be great to have more publicity for the concept and maybe one day an small bore adventure touring meet somewhere nice
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CBT Is only valdid in the UK. I've got my Full license, but I was wondering about fuel consumption.

And other issues like tax. But since I live in Germany too, I'll have to see a insurance agency about that.
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the bikes will all be different iv never seen mpg like my cbf 125 i done 250 miles on a tank this might give you a better idea Honda CBF125 first ride - Telegraph
cbt is limited to the uk iv only ever toured Scotland with mine but my insurance covers me abroad for 90 days. To get a German bike license. I would have to give up my British one and take a first aid course so not worth the hassle. Also you dont need a license for a 50 cc in Germany although they are slower than the ones in the uk

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That range figure just ticked a box for me

What are the service intervals? Official ones different to what is actually required?

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some people claim 300 miles on the tank
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CBT is limited to the UK I've only ever toured Scotland with mine but my insurance covers me abroad for 90 days.
While the CBT might be restricted to the UK alone there are a number of countries which allow you to ride up to 125cc on your full car licence. The problem comes that there is no database of which do and which don't. As far as I can see the simplest way is to try and find scooter hire companies in the country you're interested in and then to see if they will went to people with car licences only. This is pretty hit and miss though as not all operators work to their national regulations, they may instead rent according to their insurance company's policies. Or it may be that they're more interested in your money and will say yes to anything. It's one of my "never quite got there" projects to get a full database going that has accurate licencing regulations.

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Also you don't need a license for a 50 cc in Germany although they are slower than the ones in the UK
They'll be the same as UK scooters, they're all governed by a standardized EU policy these days. 50cc touring would be a different matter again, but there's people like Wan Lee who rode all the way round the US, and I recently found the travel blog of someone who toured France on one. Perhaps that's more akin to bicycle touring than motorbike touring though.
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I'm sure we would all love to see a list of places around Europe
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the bikes will all be different iv never seen mpg like my cbf 125 i done 250 miles on a tank this might give you a better idea Honda CBF125 first ride - Telegraph
cbt is limited to the uk iv only ever toured Scotland with mine but my insurance covers me abroad for 90 days. To get a German bike license. I would have to give up my British one and take a first aid course so not worth the hassle. Also you dont need a license for a 50 cc in Germany although they are slower than the ones in the uk
You need a car license to drive one 30mph. I did straight up my German license. Since you're forces, how easy is it to get a german bike BFG'ed.
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bfg is a pain in tha a** but free so worth the wait
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anyone ever thought of taking part in the mongol rally looks like a real challenge
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I've been touring in SE Asia on a Yamaha YBR125G. Works fine even 2 up.
Gets around 400km on a tank. One up and keeping speed below 80 km/h would probably see over 450 km per tank.
Even works well offroad.
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50cc touring would be a different matter again, ... Perhaps that's more akin to bicycle touring than motorbike touring though.

That's about right. I've tried 50cc touring twice, both times on Honda stepthroughs - A C100 solo to the Elephant rally and then two up on a C50 and that's been enough, it was just too slow. On the "two up on a C50" trip we had to get off and walk alongside it on some hills as it just ground to a halt.

I am a fully paid up member of the 125cc touring club though (with book coming out shortly to prove it ) and that's much more practical. I'm probably going to putter my way down to the Alps next month on my 70's 125 smoker Suzuki. Recently I've been alternating between the 125 and a 400/4 Honda and there's far less difference between them than you'd imagine by the time you've allowed for speed limits, other traffic etc.

The CBF does seem to be gaining a bit of a following recently and with 120mpg seemingly possible I can understand why - I only get about half that but I suppose that's old skool two strokes for you.
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Go on then whats the book called?
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