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Old 12 Sep 2007
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Hey, as usual, I'm just talking off the top of my head....and responding to what seemed "fair and balanced" regards HU protocol. I really have no dog at all in this thing.

If you want to know what I really think...go back to my first post in this thread and read the very last line: "Let The Inmates Decide". And so it should be.

Looks to me like Grant is bending over backwards to accomodate you guys.

I don't, however, think the XT tech forum "made HU what it is". I think you might find a few hundred members here who would disagree with that concept. Have you ever attended an HU rally?

I didn't realize info was so scarce on the XT. Since Yam have produced it in the rest of the world all these years. Be cool to import a "modern" one from the EU or Canada. I saw a few XTs/660's on Europe trips. Nice bikes for sure.

Sounds to me like an XT specific forum could be made to run at a profit.
Hack a V bulletin site together and Voila!
Rallies, Rides, Camp outs, Tshirts, farkles, a few sponsors? Whadya' figure?

There are 3 major Vstrom specific sites, one is doing pretty well. Vstrom guys even have 2 national rallies every year now.

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Wink Lies, damn lies, and statistics

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Man, I hate to disagree with a Veteran HUBBer. As stated in my earlier post, you folks are the only reason my XT is on the road. However, why would you shoot down the existence of the one model specific forum as opposed to posting questions to whether there might be interest in trying to get others started?




It appears that Grant is still listening. Again, I appreciate his administration. It seems to me that rather than watering down a popular forum that has been standard for many on the HUB for years, maybe creating an additional forum. Possibly "Other Yamaha Tech," sorry I'm sure there are better names.
I don't know anything about post counts or views or any of that, but it seems as though popularity should dictate. If, by chance, another forum was started and the "XT600 Technical Forum" was kept as it was, the numbers could tell the true story.

Thanks for listening to my rant

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That got me looking at the hits alongside the various bikes that are discussed in here: I spent a whole 10 minutes or so, certainly no more in looking.
Yes, the XT has lots in total ("historically"), but here are some statistics (figures as of today of course):-

Kawasaki.
KLE - 4500 and 2000 are the viewings of the two most popular threads. Didn't bother looking for the KLR in there.

Suzuki.
DR650 - 12000 (wow, what was that all about?) and 1000 viewings.
DL650/1000 - didn't bother looking, someone else can do it (but viewing of some recent posts there are also into 1000s)!

Yamaha.
XT600 - 2000 and 1500 (and this 1500 is in the last couple of days for the replacement bike, the 2008 660Z Tenere - nothing like the XT600).

TT600R - 1000 and 1800 (quite a way back, has not been discussed a lot recently).

Interesting figures for the two most popular threads for what are considered to be popular offroad/dual sport/adventure bikes in any case.

I deduce that if the XT600 deserves it's own thread, then so do all of the bikes listed here (and probably others that are not listed - didn't bother with Honda for example, nor BMW - what interest will there be in a new 800GS and it's technical detail??).

Just been looking at the thread for the F800GS - nearly 20 000 people have viewed this single thread (is that big or what?!)
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For completeness

There is another view on this topic expressed in post number 11 of this thread:-

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...404#post150298
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XT600 Lives

I certainly don't think that the XT600 Forum made HU what it is. Grant can take credit for that. But the discussion around the XT600 had been an important part of the HUBB.

I am not sure why the argument continues to be made that the XT600 should not have it's own forum because other bikes don't have their own. Historically, other bikes have not had their own forum here but the XT600 has had it's own. Few people complained, or even cared. Then this thread was started and a week later the long existing XT Forum was 'gone'.

Eliminating the XT600 Forum is like telling a Vstrom forum that now they have to sort through a bunch of DRZ information to glean what they need. can you imagine the uproar (Suzuki owners are, historically, a bunch of whiners). I don't have to point out that even though they are both Suzukis, they are different bikes.

I would prefer the XT600 forum be renewed and hopefully restore the continuity of links. The forum should include everything XT (TT600, XT600Z, XT600, XT600E, XT660Z, XTZ750, etc). If that can't be done, no worries. The XT600 content remains strong on the Yamaha Tech forum. I hope that it continues to be a resource.

I'll still be around. I like the HUBB and it helps me imagine that someday I might travel the world. Thanks to everyone for making the HUBB what it is, a great community of knowledgable motorcyclists.
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Sub Forums

I'm not a computer/web site guy AT ALL...but on other boards I have seen them do sub-forums to handle this.

So you would have Yamaha....but on a Google search it would show the
XT sub forum on HU. Could that work?

Like:
Forum:Yamaha
Sub-Forums:
XT600
XT660
XT250
Tenere'
XTZ750
TDM 850

And so on ....

As to which bikes deserve a subforum and what you do with with bikes that don't get their own subforum.....well, Grant will have to work that out.
I imagine this is a lot of work.

Anyway...

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That was quick Grant!

Breaking all of the links in previous posts was never the intention of course, and perhaps there is some way of keeping them? I would suggest a new forum for Yamaha (where discussion of any other Yam bike can go) and keeping the XT site until the day that no one wants it any more or hell freeezes over!

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Hi Motomedic - I haven't seen anyone argue to get rid of the XT forum (please see above). Seems to me that the whole tech forums could develop along the lines that Mollydog identifies and is seen in lots of other websites; I suppose it depends on how much people see this website as being related to technical issues as it is to RTW/longish-distance riding discussion - there is room for both IMHO but, therefore, the website needs to develop along these lines.
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I'll chime in here w/ my .02 cents worth. When I looked at buying my 1990 XT600 second hand, I was worried about a pretty much complete lack of information in English on the web. Thanks to Google & finding the wonderful XT600 tech section of this website, I have been able to troubleshoot a few issues & find information/advise specific to my bike.

And while there aren't specific sub-forums on here for other bikes, almost all of those bikes have healthy independent forums on the web in English, something the XT600 does not. Thank you Grant for hosting the XT600 English forums, I hope they can stay around.

--JOsh in the US, riding a "forgotten" bike
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When I looked at buying my 1990 XT600 second hand, I was worried about a pretty much complete lack of information in English on the web. Thanks to Google & finding the wonderful XT600 tech section of this website, I have been able to troubleshoot a few issues & find information/advise specific to my bike.


--JOsh in the US, riding a "forgotten" bike
And you still can, exactly as I did back in Mar 07 when I had some trouble with a TT600R that uses a 3AJ engine; nothing has changed except the title of the forum!!
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Eliminating the XT600 Forum is like telling a Vstrom forum that now they have to sort through a bunch of DRZ information to glean what they need. can you imagine the uproar (Suzuki owners are, historically, a bunch of whiners). I don't have to point out that even though they are both Suzukis, they are different bikes.

I would prefer the XT600 forum be renewed and hopefully restore the continuity of links. The forum should include everything XT (TT600, XT600Z, XT600, XT600E, XT660Z, XTZ750, etc).
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But surely, if you want info for an XTZ750, you would then have to wade through a load of XT600 stuff to find what you need.
It strikes me that nothing much has changed apart from the title. The old XT forum was never just XT stuff, it DID contain info on many other Yamaha bikes, and the name change simply reflects this.
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Search engines

I am fine with the change just as long as everyone agrees to not leave the forum. It appears that a link to the forum comes up when searching for "XT600 forum" on Google and Yahoo!. Good. That will help others find the diamond in the rough that the forum has been. Now where's that damn horse?
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Folks come and go, and opinions go round and round ......................

............... but the HUBB just goes on!

I came across this thread from a few years ago and did a quick google search. So, here in the UK at least, the "XT600" forum still comes up at the top of the list.

xt600 forum - Google Search
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