Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Triumph Tech Forum

Triumph Tech Forum Triumph Tech Forum - For Questions specific and of interest to Triumph riders only. Questions comparing which bike is best etc go in the "Which Bike" forum.
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 13 Apr 2007
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1
Srtraight Bonnie or America for big rig?

I'm planning a roadie through/around Australia for next year and want to do it on a Bonnie. Long distances and dusty roads. Any ideas as to what would be the better bike for a big lad (6"2" and 250lb+), and suggestions for upgrades to the standard 07 models of either of these bikes would be welcome.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 13 Apr 2007
Dodger's Avatar
Large Golden Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 1,098
I would think the Standard or T100 would be better if you are doing gravel roads .The Scrambler would be ok too but the high pipes might be a pain in the arse for mounting panniers.
Here is a link that might give you some ideas :
DRF's new butt jewelery - ADVrider

Fit some dual sport type tyres and you should be good to go !
__________________
Blessed are the cracked, for they let in the light. - Spike Milligan
"When you come to a fork in the road ,take it ! When you come to a spoon in the road ,take that also ."
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 13 Apr 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,500
A long time back, say early sixties, the average bike was expected to meet off tarmac situations, so the tyres of the day coped. for the rear I used to use a Dunlop , It was square sectioned, with quite pronounced block treads at the corners. if you drove with lots of lean these would round off. But I think this shape tye would be usefull today. On the flat good roads, there would be lots of contact area, and off tarmac the blocked edges would give good grip,
I am not well up on tyre, probably there are 'universal types still available'. Although many things seem to have become more specialised.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 13 Apr 2007
Dodger's Avatar
Large Golden Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 1,098
tyre types

Ah the good old Dunlop Universal !
Yep ,a good tyre for low powered bikes on all surfaces .

I put some Kenda tyres on my Yamaha because a friend sells them cheaply .
They perform great on gravel roads and tarmac .
I wear the rear Avon AM18 [19"] super stickys away very fast on my Norton Commando ,so I thought what the heck ,I'll try a Kenda , surprised me that it performed very well -instead of falling effortlessly into corners the bike now has to be pushed down into the corner [ I'm not a natural countersteerer] but all in all very good for a tyre 1/3 the price of an Avon and with a much longer life expectancy .
I imagine that the more expensive Annakees and Tourances would be even better so maybe they are the new Dunlop Universals ?

ps I'm glad that you didn't mention the Avon Skidmaster tyres - or was that Speedmaster ? I've several memories of sliding down the road on my arse thanks to them .
__________________
Blessed are the cracked, for they let in the light. - Spike Milligan
"When you come to a fork in the road ,take it ! When you come to a spoon in the road ,take that also ."
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 14 Apr 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodger View Post
ps I'm glad that you didn't mention the Avon Skidmaster tyres - or was that Speedmaster ? I've several memories of sliding down the road on my arse thanks to them .
I remember Avon introducing a 'rain tyre', it ran like a greasy marble on the back, not so bad on the front. I cant remember the name.. XX3 ???

bike was not that low powered for the time, about 340 lbs and 42 hp. ( T100 ss slightly tuned)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 15 Apr 2007
Dodger's Avatar
Large Golden Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 1,098
I knew I had seen a similar tyre to the old Dunlop somewhere ,here 'tis
Total Motorcycle Tire/Tyre Guide - Bridgestone TW25


I don't think 42 hp for a 500cc bike is too shabby even today !
__________________
Blessed are the cracked, for they let in the light. - Spike Milligan
"When you come to a fork in the road ,take it ! When you come to a spoon in the road ,take that also ."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 15 Apr 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Victoria, Australia
Posts: 35
If you are planning to ride long distances over gravel/dirt roads you might want to consider a bike with suspension to suit days of nothing but corrugations. If you must do this with a roadbike then the standard Bonnie will be better than an 'America. An 'America' would be a terrible choice for rough roads, because of the 'feet forward' riding position all your weight is on your arse, unlike 'conventional' footrests which allow you 'carry' your weight with your legs. Essentially you would experience every corrugation, pothole, & washout as a jarring straight up your back. Not nice.
If Triumph is your love then a Tiger would be a far better choice.
However if you will be travelling mainly on bitumen, with only occasional forays off the black stuff, then the Bonnie will do the trick.

One further thought - I don't know the fuel range of the Bonnie, I'd expect there would be times you would need to carry extra fuel (& water). When I rode around Oz on my Thunderbird I stuck mainly to bitumen, & still had to carry extra fuel on a couple of days.

Hmmmm, come to think of it, having just re-read your post, with your size & weight a Thunderbird might suit better? More oomph & physically bigger.

regards
Cuppa
__________________
regards
Cuppa
cuppa500.com

Last edited by Cuppa500; 15 Apr 2007 at 10:54.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 15 Apr 2007
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Almeria, Andalucia
Posts: 185
Agree that the standard Bonnie will be better suited to anything less-than-perfectly tarmac-ed. As for Cuppa's point about the range of the tank, I get 170-80 miles out of my '06 Bonnie, fully loaded and ridden nice and slow on-road.
__________________
www.BesideTheSeaside.eu
---I'm back. Now what?---
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
South America Motorcycle Adventure Movie: Contest Announceme motorbikewithmike.com Travellers Seeking Travellers 79 12 Dec 2007 21:59
Bikes for North & South America WildStallions Which Bike? 30 6 Aug 2006 02:08

 
 


HU DVD Summer Special!

Now that summer is here, get On the Road! Take 30% off the Achievable Dream - On the Road! 2-DVD set until August 31 only. Get On the Road! Learn the tips to staying healthy, happy and secure on your motorcycle adventure!

Our veteran travellers share their tips (and great stories) for staying healthy, happy and secure on your motorcycle adventure.

"A fantastic, informative and inspirational DVD."

"It's brilliant - thank you very much!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'ONTHEROAD' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 22:54.