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Shipping from Thailand to Europe without Carnet
Hi everybody,
my trip is coming to an end and I thought about shipping my Italian scooter back to Italy via sea.
My Carnet de Passage is expired so I guess I would not be able to use it. In fact it seemed to me that despite Thailand being not included in the list of countries where the CdP is requested, they still want to see it as a proof of temporary import. When I got my scooter into Thailand via air freight from Kazakhstan, they demanded to see the CdP, even if they did not stamp it.

Now that I started asking for quotes to freight forwardes I have been always told that it will be difficult to send it back. I'm skeptic about this, considering that I always specifiy that it s an Italian registered scooter and they always ask me about unregistering the scooter in Thailand, which doesn't make sense.

So my question is: does anybody have any experience on shipments out of Thailand without Carnet de Paassage?
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Thailand is not signatory to the CdP treaty. Asking for the carnet is just a way for them to make life for themselves easier, as they can easily read it. Occasionally customs stamp carnets...

Yes, it's kind of difficult shipping bikes out of Thailand, due to corruption in customs. You will have to persist. The reason why they want you to de-register it is because it's illegal to export Thai vehicles for more than 1 month. Looks like you haven't gotten the message through yet that your scooter is going home.

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To be frank, my friend and I imported our vehicles into Thailand specifically via air freight from Kazakhstan and one by sea from Japan.
None of us had problems, no extra money were asked and all the custom personnel was helpful and friendly.
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It should be pretty straight forward to get it done. There are numerous very competent logistics and freight agents in Bangkok.

Drain the fuel remove the batteries for crating. You might be subject to a small fine if the bikes have overstayed their temporary import dates.
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Hello - I shipped a Landcruiser from Thailand (to Russia, not Europe) in 2008 with an expired carnet and it was NOT an issue. They didn't even ask to see it, either on entry or exit. The only dealings I had with customs was getting a copy of Thailand's own temporary import document stamped on entry and again on exit and, apart from possibly getting fined if you overstay the clearance, it shouldn't be a problem.

The agents I used were Seaswift in Bangkok. They p1ssed me off at the time as they didn't put the engine and chassis numbers on the Bill Of Lading and other shipping documents, which caused me trouble with Russian customs, but they were perfectly nice in every other way. Therefore, as long as you make sure they put the engine and chassis numbers on the Bill Of Lading and other shipping document, I would on balance recommend them.

Mark

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Hi Mark, did you have to pay for the deposit when you entered Th with the vehicle or you had a certificate issued by you embassy?
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