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Air shipment from Cape Town to North America

Hi all. Nothing in the database on this, so I'm wondering ..

... anyone have any info on air shipment / shippers from Cape Town to somewhere in North America, preferably Toronto or NYC area? For a DR650.

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I am trying to figure out how to get my 800 from USA to Cape Town Ill let you know if i find a shipper pls do likewise

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check these folks out International Shipping Worldwide Moving Company Air Ocean Cargo International Shipping Quotes
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Thanks Jack. I'm awaiting some more info from a HUBB member who emailed me and will share when I receive it. Meanwhile I requested a quote from the company mentioned.
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i got a quote for USD4,000 ONE WAY Washington to Cape Town! hoping there is a cheaper way....
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Hi Jack,

Should be cheaper option. I fowarded some info passed onto me to Mark. Interesting ride you have planned. What are your plans when you get to Uganda? Drop me an email if you want to chat about routes and stuff. If you get a chance, you may want to enable the email option on your profile, you won't be able to pm until you get to 8 as a new user. Cheers.
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Mountainman thanks for the note. I enabled the email option (i think?)
Northern leg of the trip including Uganda is a bit open we are hoping to head up through Burundi and Rwanda into Uganda. There is a charity called ISIS based out of Bermuda I want to visit if possible. Have you been before?

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Thanks guys. So Mountain Man told me in an email that a Canadian couple in 2008 had bikes shipped from Cape Town to NYC for about $1200 USD per bike, if I have my rand/USD conversion correct.

Shipper was British Airways Cargo. So I'll be checking them ...

Mountain Man, if you happen to have contact info for the agent Bradley you mentioned that could be a big help.

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I spoke with Lufthansa cargo and they quoted me $14 p/kg versuss $4 from the int shipping fwder.
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shipping worldwide

So the folks at shipping-worldwide.com have been very helpful (if not as cheap as I had hoped) below is a quote for shiiping the bike using a bmw factory crate. $3,600 still seems much higher than I had thought?? Any advice on how to get the cost down? thanks



[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']R A T I N G D E T A I L S[/font]



[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Airport to Airport Rates from NewYork [ NYC ] To Capetown [ CPT ] [/font]


CARGO DESCRIPTION
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Group #1:[/font]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Calculation Based On Goods of Size 102" x 43" x 50"[/font]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Total Volume Weight 1321.08 lb or 599.24 kgs. / Total Gross Weight 500 lb or 226.8 kgs. [/font]
Quantity : 1
PARTICULARS

VALUE


RATE


AMOUNT


Freight

599.24 kg


$4.15



$2,486.84


Fuel Surcharge

599.24 kg


$0.50



$299.62


[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Terminal Transfer[/font]

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']599.24 kg[/font]


[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$0.08[/font]



[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$47.94[/font]


Forwarding Fee

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']599.24 kg[/font]


[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$0.40[/font]



$239.69


[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Security Surcharge[/font]

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']599.24 kg[/font]


[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$0.17[/font]



[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$101.87[/font]


[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Hazardous Material Charges[/font]



[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$325.00[/font]


[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Shipper's Declaration (Over $2,500.00 )[/font]

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$13,000.00[/font]



[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$50.00[/font]


Air Waybill Preparation



[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']$50.00[/font]

Total

$3,600.96




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Yo Jack, where does that "total volume weight" of 1321 pounds come from? I don't even know what "total volume weight" means vs. gross weight (500 lbs). Anyhow, agreed, $3600 seems high, maybe it's pinned to that 1321 pounds?

FWIW, I shipped my bike in late September from Toronto to Lisbon with Motorcycle Express for $1500. Smooth, efficient and no crating required -- just drain fuel, disconnect battery, tie down on pallet.

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best I can figure its an estimate based on dimensions.

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Yo Jack, where does that "total volume weight" of 1321 pounds come from? I don't even know what "total volume weight" means vs. gross weight (500 lbs). Anyhow, agreed, $3600 seems high, maybe it's pinned to that 1321 pounds?

FWIW, I shipped my bike in late September from Toronto to Lisbon with Motorcycle Express for $1500. Smooth, efficient and no crating required -- just drain fuel, disconnect battery, tie down on pallet.

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It's airfreight industry-standard "volumetric weight" = (length x width x height in inches / 166).

See https://www.freight-calculator.com/c..._bconfirm.html
"Air Volume in lbs. is calculated by dividing the cubic inches by 166. If air volume exceeds actual weight in pounds volume weight will be applied. Ocean cargo is rated by Cubic Meter (CBM). 1 Cubic Meter equals 35.314 cubic feet. 1 kilo is equal to 2.2046 pounds"

(or any of several Google references under "air cargo volumetric weight")

It's "industry-standard" practice and typical of most aircargo carriers. But it's also a matter of company policy & market conditions, not law. Not all carriers charge it for all customers; some will charge "actual" weight; in some markets, unders some conditions, you can "negotiate".

If a particular carrier (always) charges volumetric weight, the only way to reduce the cost is to reduce the dimensions, e.g., remove wheels, screens, bags,etc. But if the carrier requires or you choose to crate, rather than palletize, the bike, then you'll wind up paying for the full dimensions of the crate.

Air cargo that is "palletized,"/ tied-down & "shrink-wrapped," rather than crated, tends to be cheaper. Crating vs palletizing is also determined by company policy & practice, not law. Among international air cargo carriers, Lufthansa is best-known for almost always palletizing, rather than crating, bikes.
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Thank you for the info.


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I have been speaking to GREG@BERKLAY.COM and he has been incredibly helpful with arranging dc to Cape town and then kenya back to DC. If you have not been in touch highly recommend he also offered the folloing v useful tip:
There is no problem leaving the saddle bags and a spare tire BUT I would not recommend any other items. This is because they will not be covered under the insurance since the airline is only listing the bike. Personal items other than the bike are not insurable since they are used and under $100.00
Also the customs officers will tax you on everything that is shipped with the bike, even if they are personal items with little value
So I would suggest that you take the other stuff with you when you fly -- even if it costs you an additional $50-100 because it will be covered and there will be no tax.
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