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Carnets (yet again) for S and C America this time.

Have travelled down Africa and am waiting to ship to S America. I have to discharge current carnet and get a new one for the Americas.

Has anyone imported their bike to Argentina and got the carnet there?

Is it possible to simply go for a temporary import into Argentina and carry on on the same basis throughout the Americas?

I'm back in England for a couple of weeks and so need to know pretty fast whether I need to organise a carnet while here so speedy response would be appreciated.
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If you're shipping your bike into Argentina OR Ecuador you NEED a carnet. (At last word...

After that, you don't need one in South or Central or North America!

BUT a carnet makes it a lot easier, quicker, and cheaper in South America. NO use for it in Central America or Mexico at all.

Shipping into Canada or USA they WILL accept it and it IS easier, but NOT required.

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Hate to disagree folks, but you don't need a carnet in Central nor S. America.

Argentina does not require one. I have temp. imported bikes by land, sea and air and was never asked for one. And, technically, customs regulations do consider temp. import without one. There is a printed form called "Importacion Temporaria de Vehiculos" which is designed for just that purpose, that means, temp. import without carnet. You get at least 6 months entry, renewable.

However, if you want peace of mind and have the money for a carnet, take it along.

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This area is one where the regulations change and where much depends on the customs officials on the day, regardless of what the official policy is.

The entry to Ecuador is a classic case - what the actual regulations have been for the last couple of years is uncertain - the reality is that a number of travellers got in without a carnet, (with significant LOCAL help) and several more were completely unsuccessful. At least one had to wait 10 days for a carnet to be issued at home and couriered out before he could clear his bike. A few days later someone got in without a carnet.

It seems clear NOW that FLYING into Ecuador the CURRENT regulations DO require a carnet - this has changed very recently. A carnetless traveller was recently required to ride to the Peruvian border with a Customs officer on the back of the bike, and pay for all his expenses, including his return to the airport.

As for Argentina - it may help that you are Argentinean! And speak the language. There has been another recent report of hassle without a carnet into Argentina.

That you were never asked for a carnet is interesting - when we arrived there from South Africa by air, they wanted an Argentinean to guarantee the entry. It took hours to sort it out. They never mentioned a temporary permit, and eventually we used our carnet.

Seems like a little of the Ecuador situation - different officials have their own ideas about what is required. They just didn't seem to want to let us in without a lot of aggro, and there have been a number of other similar reports.

However, your information is very useful for future travellers - now they KNOW the name of the document required, that should get problems sorted.

Thanks for pointing that out.

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