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carnet in europe

Hey hey

Just doing some research if a carnet is required in Europe. I have found that countries like Belgium, Denmark, Finland, Greece, Italy, Monaco and Netherlands accept carnet but do not require them. My question is has any body gone to the trouble of obtaining carnets for these countries or you is it that you do not need to get one at all? Sorry just a little bit confused... :confused1: Or say if I wanted to export my bike from Netherlans to Australia, would I need one?

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As far as I am aware, the only countries that actually require a carnet these days are Russia and certain other Asian nations, plus a handful of countries in Africa...

All EU members, and many of the fringe eastern European nations don't need a carnet.

Ah, the benefits of the Union!

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I'm from the UK and now in Australia. I know you don't need one for Europe if you hold an EU passport (which you must do), last time I looked you didn't need one for Russia either.
Australia you may need one, check the RTA website Australia. I know they can be strict here, but you should be OK if you work with them..

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Hi Paul,

I was going to check with our Canadian Auto Club (CAA) tomorrow about carnets for Europe. They don't list any European countries in their web page as requiring carnets.

Do you know if I ship my bike over, and travel under my Canadian passport if I would need a carnet? The information I seem to be reading says no, but you mentioned if you travel under a EU pasport you are okay.

Thanks for any insight you may have!

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Do note that different types of vehicles, like cargo trucks, for example, and depending on where they´re coming from also, may use (or be required to use) a carnet to enter certain countries. That may explain, why some European countries are listed.

I´m not 100% sure if it will be the same regardless of where the bike is registered... but I am under the impression, that you will not need it for a motorcycle anywhere in the EU.
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Carnet in Europe

I emailed the RAC last year with this email:

I have a quick question that the answer to may seem obvious but I don't seem to be able to find a definitive answer.

I am planning a motorcycle trip to north, south, east and western Europe. Is a Carnet required for motorcycle travel in these areas ?
The motorcycle is UK taxed and insured vehicle.

If Carnet is required for any of these countries would you be able provide me with a list.

Their short but clear reply:

A carnet is not required for Europe

I sent the above email to carnets@rac.co.uk

Sounds good huh.
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I would check the updated list that is included here on the HU site. http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tri...t-of-countries
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Travelling between EU-countrys you will even not be stopped at any border. You can cross them as many times you want.
Different is for non-member countrys you would visit or when you enter EU from another country. There, you will be stopped and your papers checked, but don't worry, they will just look for your passport, bike's papers, the green card and nothing more.

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Hi

A quick reply to re-confirm that a carnet is NOT required for any vehicle in circulation in Europe/EU countries, irrespective of country of registration, nationality, etc. This includes Eastern Europe eastwards through to Russia.

May I draw attention to Grants' "Sticky" at the top of the Paperwork Board which summarises all relevant Carnet information - background, availability, where required, etc. If you scroll down, you can click on country/continent specific information for more details.

Check this page first before posting a message ... answers to your questions may well be found there !!

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Travelling between EU-countrys you will even not be stopped at any border. You can cross them as many times you want.
Different is for non-member countrys you would visit or when you enter EU from another country. There, you will be stopped and your papers checked, but don't worry, they will just look for your passport, bike's papers, the green card and nothing more.

Quite easy.
Got to correct you a little here mate... From Wikipedia:

"The EU has developed a role in justice and home affairs, including the abolition of passport controls between many member states which form part of the Schengen Area, which also incorporates some associated European non-EU countries.

All EU members except Ireland and the United Kingdom are required to implement Schengen and, with the exception of Bulgaria, Cyprus and Romania, have done so. Three non-member states, Iceland, Norway and Switzerland, have also implemented the Schengen rules."

So it all sounds pretty good really!

Oh, I drove into Russia back in 1999 and no carnet was required then.
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