carnet de passage without bank-deposit!! - Page 2

**hed** · #16 5 Feb 2003

Kevin,

I agree with you, I thinkI wouldhavemade it withoutthe carnet as well, butwas toolazyto try as minewasworking so well. I will try from here, but to be frank, Ithink youcan get intoany african country even with a pice of card board strapped to your car instead of a licence plate. It gets easier the further you get away from Senegal.

Karelle, Nigeria visa in Accrta, took about 3 hours, no problems at all. Travelling in Nigeria was an absolute joy, except no

s available in the north. No problems, not asked for a briobe once and never paid one, in spit e of crossing probably 50 or 60 road blocks. Sorry, no idea about GPS co-ords, I am without it, I am a bit of a purist in this regard, I like the old map and compass way.

Luke, I am souhth african, but with me were 2 dutch, and one german, plus about a week later a truck load full of canadians, british, all sorts. All the same story, in and out same day.

Bye,

Heye

Luke

**xpower** · #17 12 Nov 2011

hi guys

i need a fake Carnet de Passage documents to take my car from london to iran, does anyone knows who i can get one from and how much it will cost me!?

thanks

**Giacomo** · #18 12 Nov 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpower

i need a fake Carnet de Passage

thanks

Is that really something you should be asking on a public forum....?

I believe photoshop has made a lot of progress since this resuscitated thread began back in 2003 ....and this is probably your best bet.

If you go down this road remember to take plenty of good books to read, you face many long nights in an iranian lock-up, and a long journey home by public transport.

On a more constructive note, have you read up on getting a local Carnet? Apparently plenty of people have managed, albeit with major hassle, to arrange this , the condition being that you leave the country by the same point of entry.

**xpower** · #19 12 Nov 2011

yes, bcaz i dont have enough money to pay for the bank deposit!

how can i get the source documents to photoshop it!?

Iranian's are not that organized to catch me on the fake document my friend.

**Grant Johnson** · #20 12 Nov 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpower

yes, bcaz i dont have enough money to pay for the bank deposit!

how can i get the source documents to photoshop it!?

Iranian's are not that organized to catch me on the fake document my friend.

More than one person has thought that of varying countries, and found out to their cost that that's not so. All it takes is a fax to Switzerland and you're done.
I remember well asking the guys in Egyptian Customs why all the vehicles parked in this huge lot - covered in layers of dust. They said they were illegally imported; bad Carnets, failed to pay duties, documents illegal or incorrect etc. They would all be sold at auction eventually.

You do what you think you need to do, but remember we do NOT recommend trying to scam the border guys - it's a bad idea and you will get found out eventually. And Iranian and lots of other jails suck!

By the way you don't necessarily need to make a deposit - most countries you can go the insurance route for a Carnet.

**Zigeuner53** · #21 13 Nov 2011

better to ask here for 'alternatives' than on advrider.....

Zig

**sazamataz** · #22 25 Jan 2012

hi!

just been looking into this whole carnet de passage thing and balking at the security costs involved. i'm planning on travelling on my bike through europe to south east asia (and any countries inbetween)... is the carnet de passage a necessity, or can it be avoided?

whats the deal with 'fake' carnets? how much are they going for?

any info would be great...

thanks!
sarah

**snoopy** · #23 25 Jan 2012

I've also been looking into it. It seems the big cost is going to Iran or Egypt where the rate is 500% of the bike value. For most others, India for example, it's 150%.

If your bike is worth £2,000, the insurance is 10% so for India and the like that's £300 and you get £150 back. The Carnet itself is £170 or something. I believe there is a fee if you go down the insurance route as well.

For Iran, the insurance would be £1,000 and you get £500 back.

Of course if you take a nice BMW at 10k value you would loose £2,500 on the £5,000 insurance. Ouch!