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Mr Carnet 3 May 2002 16:18

I cant keep checking this notice board so if you have any questions for me please email me direct.

Suffice to say, using any forged paperwork requires front, Its as much about your behaviour and appearance and what you say, as it is about the paperwork.

In this case it wont be the paperwork that lets you down. If you are really worried about the watermark, then I will try to find paper with a watermark.

hummad21 4 Jan 2013 23:13

Cheap carnet
 
Hi Mr. Carnet,
while doing massive search, came across yourself. Are you still able to provide one as I'm looking to travel to Pakistan via Iran?

Thanks

Hummad

Warin 5 Jan 2013 03:45

In message dated 3 May 2002

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Carnet (Post 60160)
I cant keep checking this notice board so if you have any questions for me please email me direct.


So Hummad click on his name in the header of the post, and then click on contact - send private message.

However I suspect you will have no response? If not then do the same for Sam Rutherford ... he will probably respond. jeiger

romnek72 10 Jan 2013 14:46

no need for carnet in africa,it work for me
 
Im in Israel now,I cross 22countrys from Maroco - Cape town-Cario riding Us register bike.
with out Carnet,I took advise from Mrwhite,When you coming to Egypt ask for TIP and pay $800 Refundable-Deposit which I got back to the penny when I left Egypt to Israel,lost $70 when I exange from Egypt money to Us$
its a lot better than Canada carnet that cost $750 non refundable.
and Kenya border,easy dont stop at custom and just ride using the other gate like





25,000 miles with Luke and Nick

did,I love you guys.



Surfy 13 Jan 2013 12:26

I travelled with my original documents and with my company car the transafrica.

With Benin i had used the carnet - till SA.

Why fake something? That can bring you to jail!

But to be honest - the customs will stamp everything you provide.

If a Police checkpoint check you in detail to bribe you - f****. - they have the time to check the carnet. Also if you have an accident.

Dont make yourself to the target that way - just for safe some bucks.

And dont believe that guys who tells here some stupid stuff here. When someone has paid some 1000$ bribes - be shure - that he has done illegal stuff - and was not able to contact his embassy because of this...

Surfy 13 Jan 2013 16:43

There are two risks to see.

A.) The Value of the vehicle /bike

B.) To have to pay the import tax of the vehicle.

For A.) you can save your ass with an cheap vehicle - or with an insured one.

For B.) In some countries it is maybe not enough to provide an Police report of the stolen vehicle - and you have to pay the Import Tax.

I did some research about B.) - but i didnt found one sample of it - who the vehicle owner really has to pay the import tax. Maybe my focus was to much concentrated to africa - but - can you provide a blog link or a link inside of the hubb - where a guy really has to pay?
Without 1-2 examples, this szenario seems to be a very theoretical.

When you have to look after your bucks that way - how can you help yourself when you have a real problem on your way? If one of the expensive parts goes bad - are you able to restock them - when you have to cheat at this early level?

For africa i think you can make your carnet by yourself - and they arent able to check if it is valid. But it could make your live complicated, the carnet has to show your name and adress - at least the name you cant fake without to organize an fake passport - and there you steps in the criminal area.

Surfy

pecha72 13 Jan 2013 16:58

Faking official documents could backfire badly at any moment. Like in the carnet case, if you happen to have an accident, and it then turns out, that your vehicle has been illegally in the country. Also I'd be surprised, if there isn't an online register for such documents in 2013. Not all borders have computers, though, but they're getting more common (this thread is +10 years old).

Maybe somebody thinks the risk is worth taking, and I don't have a problem with that at all, just be aware of what you're doing.

Aliprovidor 14 Jan 2013 11:58

Hey Romnek!
You are talking my way! Tell me exactly what to do when we reach Eygpt from Sudan.
If you don't want to write it here, please send me a private message. I can't get a carnet away from my home country and even if I could I don't want to.
Thanks!
Persistence!

romnek72 14 Jan 2013 16:37

no carnet from Sudan -Egypt
 
IF you have time, is easy,it took me two days,first custom manager told me, no way:nono:, no carnet no Egypt go back to Sudan.
Keep it cool,remember you have time,time is your friend.:Beach:
few hrs,later he try me to pay $550 for some one to fly from Cairo with Carnet(I said no way,in nice way)then he whent down to $500,and the day was gone(custom works from 10am-2pm)
next day I came back again with smile and nice hand shake(good morning how are you?)
We sat down in his office,he offer me a tea,and from there it was nice and easy.:D
when you reach Aswan which is the first port in Egypt.
ask for TIP Temp,Import,Paper or pay tax( refundable$800) like I did 2weeks ago.
Remember to use official Bank is just out side the gate(no black market) you get the best exchange.:thumbup1:

Aliprovidor 16 Jan 2013 10:01

Romnek, Big thanks mate! Confirms what I have always believed! All countries have provision for tempory vehicle import and Egypt is no different!

Africans don't get carnets and they go back and forth. We have never had a carnet and have visited many countries with a vehicle. Yes, we have time!

Good travelling to you!
Persistence.

uk_vette 16 Jan 2013 10:52

So instead of buying a carnet, you were able to deposit $800 into a bank account of the customs, all documented, then using the said deposit enter Egypt.
And this $800 deposit, is payment for your temporary import document?

That's great if I understand it correctly.

Who decides the value of the required deposit?

Will you get all $800 returned to you, as you are crossing back out of Egypt?

vette

romnek72 16 Jan 2013 11:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by uk_vette (Post 407922)
So instead of buying a carnet, you were able to deposit $800 into a bank account of the customs, all documented, then using the said deposit enter Egypt.
And this $800 deposit, is payment for your temporary import document?

That's great if I understand it correctly.

Who decides the value of the required deposit?

Will you get all $800 returned to you, as you are crossing back out of Egypt?

vette

Who decides the value of the required deposit?
Im not sure, I did not have fixer(why pay $)I remember some one official came to office and they were talking in arabic and they agree on 4801 Egypt money=aprox$800.

Will you get all $800 returned to you, as you are crossing back out of Egypt?
Yes, I got all the money back,when I cross to Israel 7-1-2013
Make sure you change Egypt money to $dollar or Euro's on Egypt side,there is Hilton hotel 200meters from border.
I lost $70dollars on the exchange on egypt side but if I had to exchange in Israel would be $150,so change money in Egypt.

uk_vette 16 Jan 2013 12:00

Over all, I would say $70 for Egypt transit is a good result. :thumbup1:

Do you think perhaps, the 4801 Egypt money=aprox$800, was the rough valuation of your bike that the guy in the office agreed with?

vette

manzo 8 May 2013 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by hummad21 (Post 406428)
Hi Mr. Carnet,
while doing massive search, came across yourself. Are you still able to provide one as I'm looking to travel to Pakistan via Iran?

Thanks

Hummad

Hi, did you find mr carnet?
Bye


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