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So after Daves plans met a problem with bikes travelling across China I would be interested in hearing of others plans to travel by bike to the far east..
My own plans are for a UK departure at the end of April 2014
I plan to travel down through Italy simply because I love the country and culture and have visited several times previously and it will be a great way to ease into travelling on this trip.. From there into Greece and Turkey, then either across or around the black sea into Russia heading to Volgograd before entering Kazakhstan... Cross KZ towards the Chinese border and here's where the tricky bit starts and perhaps sharing the journey would be useful as getting through towards Thailand has difficulties.. My destination for that part of the journey is Vietnam to meet up with my Brother in Ho Chi Minh City where he is an English teacher before continuing on towards Australia.
In Dave's thread he talked about crossing China and into Laos, which I had initially dismissed as too complex and costly and having seen some of the figures noted in there that continues to be true.. The other alternative I thought about was to take the KKH down into Pakistan and then India before shipping over (air) or around (sea) Burma to Thailand.
I'm open to ideas suggestions and offers to sharing this or any other part of the journey..
My only deadline is to be in Melbourne Australia for Christmas of 2014 so that means getting into Aus by the beginning of December, other than that I'm a free spirit and can take any alternatives.
I'll be self contained, travelling by bike and I'm currently modifying the bike in the picture below to deal with the rigors of the journey..
Look forwards to hearing your thoughts ideas or suggestions.
Hi Mark, just to get my name down on this thread. I´m also a bit flexible in the route to get to the far east although the 'Stans', Russia, Mongolia and China before exploring the smaller far east nations is my initial route of choice. Going through India could cause problems if you are a little bit pushed for time as sailing/flying motos out of India can, I believe, be a bit time consuming and unless things have changed, a carnet for India requires quite a lot of coupons, but sorting out these things is what the planning phase is for. Ride safe.
I have plans to ride east in 2014, starting april/may. Not sure yet whether I stay north and drive to Mongolia and back trought the "stans" (no carnet required) or make a one way trip south and fly back.
Personally I like the idea of riding south on the Karakorum in Pakistan, north eastern India and fly from Nepal to Bangkok to chill in southeast asia till my holiday time or trip-money is finished. But this requires a carnet, a short crossing through expensive China and 2 bike shipments. I yet have to make an estimation on the costs of this option. Sharing things on the way can probably make things easier and cheaper.
Anyways, I keep following posts for 2014. When my plans become more real I would be interesting to get in touch!
Quite a few people we rode with used air freight from Nepal in 2012 and it was very straightforward. We sent our bike from India to bkk this year which took longer and was way more pricey but still not too bad logistically.
We are planing to leave the UK in March 2014 and want to head through the Stans to South East Asia. (2 Bikes, 2 riders)
We'd definitely be interested in meeting up with others to share the costs of going through China. At the moment we are thinking KZ or Krygyzstan through China to India along the KKH. But neither the route or dates are set so far so if anyone has a stricter plan, we are happy to align ours.
I haven't a clue where to start looking for prices, etc though so . Also, what's the best time to arrive in India, weather wise?
Thanks for the replies so far folks..
The air freight from Nepal is a possible option.. it seems everyway I look at involves additional cost. The China solution is probably the most direct route but crossing the huge country in a limited time due to the cost of a guide, vehicle registration requirements and logistics make it a difficult one.
I still dont know what the situation is regards the carnet requirements in India... but the KKH route then into nepal and then freight across Burma to Bangkok sounds viable
The thought of taking a diversion through mongolia which leaves a massive addition to distances and then the need to travel from Vladivostok.
anyway - I'm sure where there's a will theres a way so with 10 months to go there's time to figure it all out.
Maja has already mentioned the thought of meeting up prior to the journey , which I think would be a great idea... Given the distances planed for the trip I guess a little journey across the UK shouldn't pose too much of an issue !
luckyluke (wasnt he a cartoon cowboy who fought the Dalton brothers? - Kinda ironic that its my surname! ) re prices - I'm in the same boat at the mo.. Lots of planning to get done..
enough waffle - night shifts earn decent money, but give me plenty of time to think about stuff I need to sort out !
Hi People, with reference to having a meeting, if all the interested parties want a ride out to my place in sunny St Andrews it will have to be before the 27th of August. After that it reverts to it's primary function of being a finance generator for my travel addiction. Ride safe.
Wud also like to include myself in the thread.
Spent a lot of time riding in Asia, but also have the dream to ride there one day, before old age gets the better of me.
Time & finances are not a problem, but I haven't given a great deal of thought to the best route ... although anything that passes thru warmer climes get my vote over a cold route !!
Keep me posted - I have some Thai contacts that cud be useful in planning etc, especially if China is necessary (given he has just returned from a Chiang Mai - Shangri-la (Tibet border) reccy tour.
China foreign vehicle travel information
"Please note that foreign-licensed motorcycles are not allowed to travel inter-province or autonomous region with the exception of Xinjiang to Tibet (or the reverse). What is allowed, with prearranged permits and licensing, is to enter Xinjiang or Tibet from a foreign country, motor about one or both autonomous regions and then exit to a foreign country. The most common route for vehicles entering Xinjiang is to enter from Kyrgyzstan via Torugart Pass or Irkeshtam Pass, be met by a required Chinese liaison officer/guide in his car with driver, and drive to Kashgar. From Kashgar drive to Tashkorgan on the Karakoram Highway and exit to Pakistan over Khunjerab Pass."
Hi all ..
I am very fresh in the planning stages of a similar east the south to Oz trip with a similar idea on dates.. Would gratefully share any infos and when it comes to the fun stuff the costs etc..
@ Mark: Yup, thats the comic guy used to love reading the comics...
luckyluke84 aka Maria (and also Aidan, we're traveling together)
"The most common route for vehicles entering Xinjiang is to enter from Kyrgyzstan via Torugart Pass or Irkeshtam Pass, be met by a required Chinese liaison officer/guide in his car with driver, and drive to Kashgar. From Kashgar drive to Tashkorgan on the Karakoram Highway and exit to Pakistan over Khunjerab Pass."
- that sounds good to me? Short and sweet, so hopefully not too expensive, yet gets us where we want to go?
Also, I don't have too much info on this yet, but I am still clinging on to the idea of trying to cross Burma by bike, so will work on that idea a bit.... But chances are I'm a little too optimistic, so keep us posted on the best way to ship
Meeting here in the UK sounds good! Although I would suggest that we meet closer to the time (as well as soon?) when we know who is almost definitely joining, what route we're taking and the dates, so that we can talk costs and who is organising what (eg. calling the tour companies, booking things, etc).
At work atm, so gtg. Will check out the links once at home..... btw, another good website for all things Stans is: http://caravanistan.com/
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