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Nifty W650 21 Mar 2011 21:02

Ireland to Georgia Summer 2011
 
Hiya,

34 year old male seeks to escape the recession soaked rat race of Ireland 2011. He is looking to pilot his trusty W650 all the way to Georgia and back over the course of 6 - 8 weeks. Bike & Owner have done 3 week trip around other parts of Europe last year and both held up pretty well.

I like riding motorbikes but I'm far from a biker. I just find that bikes are a cracking way to explore new countries. Alas, I haven't really got that much knowledge of how to fix the bike if something goes wrong (but the bike is very well behaved, will have an extensive service before I head off and I'll have breakdown cover for the EU segment of the trip).

The proposed route would take in the more out of the way sections of Germany, Czech Rep., Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey and then along the north coast and on to Georgia & Armenia. On the way back I'd like to swing by the southern coast (soak up a few skin ageing UV rays) and swing up through Greece, Macedonia, Albania, Montenegro, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia and yada, yada, yada all the way back to the ferry.

Some days I like to cover monster mileage and others do sweet feck all. I'm very fond of nosing around a UNESCO site during the day and then painting the local town red at night.

Accomodation would be a mix of camping, hostels, pensions, hotels, luxury 5 star resorts or whatever takes my fancy at the time (or whats available).

I'm pretty easy going and have no apparent social dysfunctions (at least in my slightly jaundiuced opinion). I intend to have a rough plan of the trip but allow plenty of wiggle room to change my mind (if the trip takes me to Scandanavia instead ..... so be it).

Anyhow, I'd be interested in hearing from somebody who might be interested in tagging along for some or all of the journey.

I'm kinda pencilling in travel from June-ish to August-ish.

Any takers?

Wildman 21 Mar 2011 22:46

Cool trip. Next year for me maybe. Have fun!

vdh-be 22 Mar 2011 12:47

Hi,
I've been to Armenia & Georgia last summer. Info: Caucasus Tour 2010 on Facebook. Take a look!

Knight of the Holy Graal 22 Mar 2011 13:51

've been there in August 2010 by motorcycle, too, riding overland from my hometown in northern Italy to the Azeri border and back.

I can tell you that Georgian and Armenian people are really friendly and landscapes gorgeous.
Entering Georgia from Turkey (Sarp border station) has been really easy: after about 90 minutes to exit Turkey due to a veeeery long line of cars and coaches, it took only 10 minutes of formalities to enter Georgia, with Georgian policemen that let me and my girl pass to the front of the line to let us in very shortly (with many "Welcome to Georgia" and smiles for us): the easiest border crossing out of Europe ever, for me.
If you get into Turkey from Georgia at Posof-Vale border, pay attention on the Georgian side: road turns suddenly from asphalt to gravel and small rocks right some km. before the border beyond a hump (you don't see the beginning of the gravel part at all while you ride, and it would be easy to fall if you ride fast).
Traffic police are everywhere, friendly, helpful and they never bothered us.

English is not widely spoken, better if you could learn some words of Russian.

Pay attention to the roads: even the smoothest tarmac may hide deep potholes, so don't ride fast even though you think you could.
Main roads are OK or quite OK, but secondary roads are very often in bad conditions with gravel and scattered potholes.

Traffic either in Georgia and Armenia is often crazy, cars pass one another even if the curve is "blind", so don't expect that nobody is coming against you on your lane even though you would not dare to pass due to lack of visibility: between Gori and Tbilisi I've even seen a family on a Lada pass the Police with roof lights on and white continuous line!

You'll find good accomodation, don't worry (see also this thread of mine http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...caucasus-54816).

While in Georgia, don't miss the Georgian Military Road that is simply stunning, and in Armenia... well, don't miss anything there!

If you need more info, feel free to ask.

Caminando 22 Mar 2011 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdh-be (Post 329266)
Hi,
I've been to Armenia & Georgia last summer. Info: Caucasus Tour 2010 on Facebook. Take a look!

Thanks VDH.

I've had Georgia on hold for a while and think I'd better do it soon before fuel prices and other stuff prevent me.

I'd like to read your tour info: any chance of posting it here instead of Facebook?

Ta!

vdh-be 22 Mar 2011 14:02

We used Facebook because it was the easiest way to report on our trip and upload photos. All you need is an email to make an account (you don't have to share anything if you don't want to). For us it was an easy way to stay in touch with home.
Gr,
Vincent

Caminando 22 Mar 2011 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knight of the Holy Graal (Post 329273)
I've been there in August 2010 by motorcycle, too, riding overland from my hometown in northern Italy to the Azeri border and back.

I can tell you that Georgian and Armenian people are really friendly and landscapes gorgeous.
Entering Georgia from Turkey (Sarp border station) has been really easy: after about 90 minutes to exit Turkey due to a veeeery long line of cars and coaches, it took only 10 minutes of formalities to enter Georgia, with Georgian policemen that let us my and my girl pass to the front of the line to let us in very shortly (with many "Welcome to Georgia" and smiles for us): the easiest border crossing out of Europe ever, for me.
If you get into Turkey from Georgia at Posof-Vale border, pay attention on the Georgian side: road turns suddenly from asphalt to gravel and small rocks right some km. before the border beyond a hump (you don't see the beginning of the gravel part at all while you ride, and it would be easy to fall if you ride fast).
Traffic police are everwhere, friendly, helpful and they never bothered us.

English is not widely spoken, better if you could learn some words of Russian.

Pay attention to the roads: even the smoothest tarmac may hide deep potholes, so don't ride fast even thought you think you could.
Main roads are OK or quite OK, but secondary roads are very often in bad conditions with gravel and scattered potholes.

Traffic either in Georgia and Armenia is often crazy, cars pass one another even if the curve is "blind", so don't expect that nobody is coming against you on your lane even though you would not dare to pass due to lack of visibility: between Gori and Tbilisi I've even seen a family on a Lada pass the Police with roof lights on and white continuous line!

You'll find good accomodation, don't worry (see also this thread of mine http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...caucasus-54816).

While in Georgia, don't miss the Georgian Military Road that is simply stunning, and in Armenia... well, don't miss anything there!

If you need more info, feel free to ask.

Thanks Knight...what you say connects with what I have found out so far. Good info! Ta!:thumbup1:

Nifty W650 22 Mar 2011 22:15

Hey vdh-be,

I had a look at your facebook group and I must say your trip looked great.

Any particular highlights of the trip that you would recomemnd as " must see"?
Any particular lowlights that you'd advise "don't bother"?

vdh-be 23 Mar 2011 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nifty W650 (Post 329338)
Hey vdh-be,

I had a look at your facebook group and I must say your trip looked great.

Any particular highlights of the trip that you would recomemnd as " must see"?
Any particular lowlights that you'd advise "don't bother"?

My highlights:
Turkey:
Capadocia, Road of stones (near Kemaliye), Nemrut Dagi, Ararat mountain, easten Turkey is great anyway
Armenia:Yerevan (for relaxing and drinking cognac),
The roads in southern Armenia
Georgia:
Military road to Kazbegi
Road to Mestia
Cave city in Vardzia
In 2009 a did an eastern europe tour of 6 weeks. So on your way back:
Greece: Meteora monasteries
Albania: from Sarande to Fier (coast way), boat trip on Lake Koman, Berat and up to Lake Ohrid
The route from Ohrid to Kosovo (near the Albanian border, it's a national park Mavrovo?)
Montenegro: everything! Bay of Kotor is a must see!
Croatia: Dubrovnik then up to Mostar in Bosnia and back in Croatia to the Plitvice lakes
Coninue back home
If you have the time this will be a GREAT trip!!!

Nifty W650 23 Mar 2011 15:47

@vdh-be... A great trip? It would be an absolutely smashing trip.

However time constraints might limit whereabouts I can or can't get too.

Was Georgia/Armenia hard on the bikes? I see you needed new tyres; were they new tyres at the start of the trip?


In other news..... I see that there is nobody foolish enough to want to join my little expedition.

C'mon people! it might not be the very worst experience of your life.

vdh-be 23 Mar 2011 17:26

Roads in Georgia and Armenia are ok. Eastern Turkey had lot of road repairs. We did some offroad as well. Tyres were new (heidenau K60) but raer tyre was gone after 11000km.
Watch out for the police in Armenia, they are well equiped with speedguns and video! We had a speed ticket (city limit) but afterwords they invited us for lunch and they payed:D Very friendly policemen!

xander2 8 May 2011 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nifty W650 (Post 329437)
@vdh-be... A great trip? It would be an absolutely smashing trip.

However time constraints might limit whereabouts I can or can't get too.

Was Georgia/Armenia hard on the bikes? I see you needed new tyres; were they new tyres at the start of the trip?


In other news..... I see that there is nobody foolish enough to want to join my little expedition.

C'mon people! it might not be the very worst experience of your life.


Hey man....

still looking for a companion?? I might be interested. I've got about 6 weeks starting early July. Rode the Balkans to Turkey 3 years ago and had a smashing trip, wouldn't mind doing it again...

Nifty W650 18 May 2011 00:43

@Xander2

Howdy?

I had thought my little trip was looking doomed by a complete lack of uptake. In fact I was considering maybe going on a bicycle trip instead (notwithstanding a complete lack of aerobic fitness).

But in answer to your question, yeah. I am still on the lookout for somebody to join in the fun.

Early July would probably suit me pretty well too. Can you send me a PM (I don't have enough posts yet) with any info you think I might want to know.

Cheers

Jamie

EyeCake 18 May 2011 19:18

Hi
I am new to this site but have been thinking about a long trip for 3 years possibly RTW and finally now I have time to escape this gloomy country
I am from Dublin And planning a long trip along approximately the same route leaving about start June as a a kind of test run
I was planning on traveling alone on a Gs but I am slightly worried about traveling alone in some of the Eastern companies but thought I would give it a go but it could be good to meet and travel partway
I am interested in photography and don't want to be tied to a tight schedule but free to explore and change at will
I will be attending HU meet next week in NI

Nifty W650 18 May 2011 20:31

Hiya Eyecake,

I was thinking of going to the Meetup thingamajig in Enniskillen next week. But it looks as though its gonna piss rain (what an adventerous soul I am) and I'm also kinda busy.

I'm not too fussed about tight schedules myself and am way more interested in the getting to the destination rather than the destination itself (I don't think my life will be any less complete if I don't actually make it to Tbilisi).

Let us know if you end up heading out on this route. By my calculations I am thinking I might leave here sometime after the 1st week in July. (I don't have to come home until the second week of September).

sedgellypete 20 May 2011 18:45

Journey details
 
hi Jamie.
I am new to this malarkey and have just read your post.
I was planning a jolly out to turkey and neighboring countries, around the end of June. I was going to go down Italy way but all my itinerary involves is sampling local ales and food!!
I was going by myself, then a friend recommended that i come on this site. I noticed your going that way.
Do you have a specific leaving date yet?

I also am a very laid back sort of guy.. so everyone tells me.....39 years old and just being made redundant ( no time restraints).. I like an ale or too and no mental tendencies.

I have been to Greece before via Montenegro way a couple of years ago. and done 25000 miles in the last 2 years. Not a seasoned pro but done enough.
Anyway let me know and i can drop by or meet up on route.

Cheers Pete

Nifty W650 21 May 2011 23:16

Howya Pete,

Good to see you're liking the look of a trip out to the crazy Caucusus.

I am looking at being able to leave Ireland on or around the 10th July and have to be back here before the 18th September. However, I still have 1 or 2 things that need to be sorted out workwise before I can commit. But I hope to be sure by next week.

The other fella who posted above, Xander2 (Hey!), seems pretty keen on the trip too.

Your plan of sampling the fine ales and fodder along the way does sound very appealing.

I'll keep you posted. You can drop me a line @ jamiesheridan1@gmail.com

Cheers

kentfallen 23 May 2011 17:17

Hello James,

Very interesting trip you have proposed. I have never heard of anyone heading to Georgia from the British Isles. I'm sure the trip will prove worthwhile and interesting though. I'm also interested in the bike you are doing the trip on - Kwaka W650. I have heard good things about this bike on various forums and mags. Apparently the W650 is a better bike than Triumph's own version of the Meridan made Bonneville, the T100? I read recently that Kawasaki are bringing out an updated version of the old W650 in 800cc flavour?

I'm planning a similar trip on my XT600E to the Ukraine. I'm interested in touring the Crimean War battlefields around Balaclava (Charge of the Light Brigade). My GG Grandfather was in the charge and survived. I have his medals. I wanted to pay my respects to the dead (from both sides).

Your twin is likely to do a better job on high speed tarmac than my Jap thumper. I may ride offroad trails when I get there...

I will keep an eye on this thread for updates.

I do hope you enjoy your trip. Ride safely and above all - STAY SAFE!

Neil

Mehmet Zeki Avar 24 May 2011 00:35

4 more welcome beer for you in the refrigerator in our club...Please let me know if you will increase this.
wish you all the best.
zeki.

xander2 25 May 2011 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nifty W650 (Post 336384)
Howya Pete,

Good to see you're liking the look of a trip out to the crazy Caucusus.

I am looking at being able to leave Ireland on or around the 10th July and have to be back here before the 18th September. However, I still have 1 or 2 things that need to be sorted out workwise before I can commit. But I hope to be sure by next week.

The other fella who posted above, Xander2 (Hey!), seems pretty keen on the trip too.

Your plan of sampling the fine ales and fodder along the way does sound very appealing.


I'll keep you posted. You can drop me a line @ jamiesheridan1@gmail.com

Cheers



Hi Jamie & Pete...

I'm indeed very keen on doing this trip. Around 10th of july is great for me. I have to be back at work around half of August.

Should be fun to gang up and check out the local beverages and dishes...and do some riding in between... :thumbup1:

@Pete: Jamie's got my e-mailadress.


looking forward bier

sedgellypete 6 Jun 2011 09:45

hi all...
I'm still going that way. but i will be going a week earlier. About the27th June
I am in no rush about things., and will be more than happy when you catch me up.
It will also mean i can wind myself into it a bit slower.And sample a few more ales.
I will post my number at a later date....
My planned route which is very vague, Belgium, Germany Czech,Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Ukraine, then its a open book....but i do want to get to warmer climates later.
I am still unsure if i will need any special paperwork, but i am sure that i can pay as i go even if it is a little more expensive, but hey ho.
Any advice welcome

Cheers Pete

alexhs 8 Jun 2011 09:38

Hi All

Just stumbled across your thread. I'm riding to Crete leaving on around 22 July, plan to go through Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Bosnia, then either Albania or through Montenegro.

I aim to get to Greece in about a week, but would be great to try and meet up if we could. Am on XT660 tenere and travelling solo.

all best

alex


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