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Old 10 Jan 2003
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I'm a Norwegian (28) who'll be driving an Enfield from Lahore, Pakistan, to Europe through Iran and Turkey after Easter, that is at the end of April. I was particulary hoping for company through the Baluchistan-desert. I can supply accomodation for any company in Lahore, since I live and study (urdu) there.
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Hi Oeyvind,

I'm in Delhi right now, and my ideal plan would be to head the same direction as you in about March. There's another British guy here who's interested. He has an Enfield already and I'm going to get one. However, we're having problems with Iranian visas (I guess it's easier for Norwegians!), and haven't tried yet for Pakistani visas. Should know soon whether the Iranians are issuing them here to British.

I'm interested that you'll be travelling by Enfield - did you buy it in Lahore? What's the availability like there? Did everything work OK with registration and carnet? Another big problem is being unable to get a carnet for an Indian-bought bike (see discussion on Trip Paperwork forum).

How are things generally in Pakistan? There don't seem to be so many people passing through these days, so it's hard to tell what it's like on the ground for Westerners.

Look forward to hearing from you,

James
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Hi ;

I am planning and preparing to make a trip to Nepal myself starting at February and was planning to set out for return after second half of April. So your trip somewhat coincides with my dates on my way back home.

My return route was DG Khan to Quetta. But how i should come to DG Khan is still not decided. Lahore-Multan or Lahore-Peshawar- Multan. What do you think about this route ? is the time ok and is Peshawar-DG Khan a fantasy route ?

How about you james? does the dates suit you?

I would also welcome a company throughout Multan-Quetta-Taftan and even longer if it fits all sides.

Hope to hear from you both ,

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Hi usl,

I met up with Oeyvind today - he said he already emailed you. He's still aiming for an April departure from Lahore. Assuming we can get all the paperwork in place, Bernard and I are aiming for an early March departure from Delhi.

Haven't considered the route through Pakistan yet, but we're not planning to hang around - we'll try to get through as directly as possible. The more merrier, I reckon, particularly through Balochistan.

James
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Hi James ;

I got Oeyvind's e-mail and replied. I dont wish to hang around Pakistan on the way bacl too. Lahore-Multan-Quetta-Taftan and Iran ,is what i plan also.

But when i will be able to depart from Nepal is not known as of today ,since it depends if my girlfriend will be able to join me there. If she can-end of april, if she cant-mid april is possible. Her plan will be more clear in couple of weeks.

Do you and Bernard have to leave in early March ?

Say hello to Oeyvind too pls.

Kemal
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Hi Kemal,

In principle, I don't have to leave until April but would rather leave earlier. Bernard has to leave early March and we're planning to travel together, so it looks as though your timing may tie in better with Oeyvind.

By the way, have you got a Pakistan visa yet? If so, did you get it in Kathmandu? We're having a bit of trouble getting one in Delhi, and have heard it may be easier in Nepal. More specifically, have you come across anyone British who has been given a Pakistani visa in Nepal recently? Things always seem to be different for us!

James
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Hi ;

I guess i will be seeing in Iran then.. :O)


Its very rare we turkish citizens have a privilage ,when it comes to a visa. Iran + Pakistan doesnt request visa from us. But last time i heard it was issued at the gate. On the other hand Indian emb. in Turkey seems very reluctant to issue a visa.

If i hear something i will let you know.

See you guys , keep in touch.

Kemal
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hello
i ve been in pak for a month
i entered from iran
slept at the border, iran side
then dalbandin
then quetta then loralai
then dg khan
you need noc from quetta to dg khan, tribal areas, read lp, the y tell you
then through di khan, slept in kohat, not so safe kohat, i had problems to find a place to stay and i had to stay inside my hotel, forbidden to go out
then islamabad
register at your own embassy in isl !
then kkh until kunjerab pass, snow, ice but i dit it (10th jan)
then back to islamabd
no need noc for kkh
you need noc for khyber pass, afghanistan

pesh and lahore are ok

it s friendly, safe but always be careful, don t tell your destinations to strangers, get a nice safe hotel, feel the atmosphere

it s worth but be careful
i even met 2 swiss on bycicles

email me directly for more info
(mail link above)
have a look too on
http://vincent.danna.free.fr/

i' m in pak for 2-3 more months
i had an accident on the kkh, have to stay, i have a broken clavicle and the front of the bike is damaged

be careful on the roads
the police was very helpful with me
insurance for me not for the bike

happy trails

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by the way, for iran pak visas, it helps if you get a letter from your embassy
i had no problems with it (french),
but i met some germans, english, same

good luck
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Hi!
Dont be too scared of Pakistan, you will miss a lot! Spent three weeks here now and had absolutely no problems. Nice people, and most love foreigners since there are nearly no, especially europeans. And the atmosphere is great, very traditional and origin. And, yes, a little bit wild in the north. I love it. Came from Iran to Quetta, then Jacobabad, Sukkur, Multan, Peshawar, some mountains in the north and now Rahwalpindi. Very warm in the south, but landscape is much more beautiful on the Quetta-Loralai-Route.
Happy trails!
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Hi Oeyvind
just seen your ad, i arrived in Lahore today heading for India in a day or so. if you are about, i am staying in the Garden hotel in the Anarkali Bazaar area. give me a ring or an email and we can meet up somewhere.
all the best
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