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No matter what everyone else thinks about it but I am looking forward to their next "Long Way Wherever" series. I enjoyed watching the Long Way Down.
A adventure trip with Ewan and Eve would be a good idea too. I thing she is doing great for a first time rider.
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Interesting thought

Although it is not how I would travel, I enjoyed long way down. If someone offered to pay me to do such a trip I too would act by their script (which is what McGragor & Boorman are doing after all - they are making a TV programme).

While watching the last episode Mrs MarkE had an interesting suggestion though; why not encourage Mrs Boorman to take her test (if necessary) and let the ladies do the next trip? They would definately bring a different perspective to the journey.
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I like Mrs MarkE her idea. Why not send the BBC an e-mail with that suggestion ?
And maybe Mrs MarkE wants to join the ladies team ;-)
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Is there any chance we could have an amnesty on Boorman bashing? It depresses me that members of a community that for the most part prides itself on being fairly open and tolerant will happily slag someone off, mainly because they are jealous.

I could go on a rant about people that have no experience and are just starting their first bike trip and have never been in a desert on two wheels, let alone tried the Dakar mouthing off, but as my dear old mum said 'if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all'.
Thankyou. Very well said.

I don't understand the Charley Boorman bashing at all. He seems genuinely personable, and is obviously balancing family life with trips away. More power to him.
It seems to be mainly Brits who have taken a huge dislike, maybe undercurrents of the (supposedly disappearing) class system rearing its head in the form of jealousy?

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Jealousy oh yes I'm so in awe of his life.

Class system LMAO only a foreigner could say that, that monkey's arse Boreman is as common as dog poo, do you really think his posh?

Your personable type is someone who causes motorcycle accidents after being told time and time again about safety, lights farts, is i’ll mannered, leaves fires burning and is generally argumentative and pig ignorant. If that's the mentality of that people that you hang out with then what’s that say about you?

Ride Safe, Be Polite, Be Friendly, Take Interest in the Country and its people that you are visiting with, and most of all don't make your fellow countrymen look like prats hooligans or idiots. You see that’s why the majority of us don’t like him much, to be painted with the same brush as Charlie really hurts. My favourite Charley is a tossup between the constant belching, arse scratching, yawning to camera or the ever present family friendly dialogue.

Come on tell me is he your ideal man?

Would your mum be pleased if you brought him home?

Charming Sophisticated with the Manners and Comportment of a Royal, one of life’s truly great catches that Man named Charlie Boreman.

But on the otherhand he does have really great hair.
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Your personable type is someone who causes motorcycle accidents after being told time and time again about safety, lights farts, is i’ll mannered, leaves fires burning and is generally argumentative and pig ignorant. If that's the mentality of that people that you hang out with then what’s that say about you ?
He may not be the perfect son-in-law but the TV-program Long Way Down was nice to watch anyway.
For the next series, a trip with Ewan and Eve, or maybe, as Mrs MarkE suggested, a ladies only trip would be a nice idea too.

(edited December 10)
Today I have been watching the "Race to Dakar" DVD and I must admid that I have more respect for Charlie now. Actualy, on a long trip, he would be someone I would like to have with me.
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Although it is not how I would travel, I enjoyed long way down. If someone offered to pay me to do such a trip I too would act by their script (which is what McGragor & Boorman are doing after all - they are making a TV programme).

While watching the last episode Mrs MarkE had an interesting suggestion though; why not encourage Mrs Boorman to take her test (if necessary) and let the ladies do the next trip? They would definately bring a different perspective to the journey.
No-one would watch it if those women did it. No-one has heard of them. Thats why the concept of "celebrity " is so crap. Its not the journey, it's those shallow nobodies called "celebrities". which causes interest. Look at the many bikers who have travelled Africa...no-one's clamouring to make a film.

Also, Eve isnt up to the task. No blame there. She seems to be there just to meet her husband, which is fine, but she seems to have little interest in m/cycle travel. She seemed to be a bit of a nuisance and a party pooper.......
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Well I liked it, not as much as I liked Long Way Round, but that's because it seemed a bit rushed - and that's not really their fault, it's whichever commisioning editor asked for 6 one-hour programmes, no doubt there's hours of extra footage which could have been used.

As for the fire, come on guys it's TV, they didn't leave the fire burning, they (or more likely Claudio/Russ/David/Jimmy) decided it'd be a nice shot of them riding with the camera angle looking through the smoke and flames, so they shot it like that, probably even did a number of takes, and no doubt all stamped on all the embers at the end - get real, it's TV.

And the support crew? No doubt half of that was a condition of the insurance brokers who were a condition of the production getting any comminsioning money etc. The rest? Well can you really fit all that tape stock, and various TV quality video cameras, and editing facilities etc on the back of a bike? Methinks not. Then Claudio's bike breaks and has to be trailered, so of course we're going to see the support vehicles closer in, because they become then only camera vehicles. And so it goes on.

Whatsmore, I don't doubt for a second that either of them love bikes, love riding, and take every opportunity to get away from it all for a day or week whatever, with no-one but themselves.
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I agre whith most of you and I was a bit sickend by all the free stuff they had, its not like they could not aford anything. I only saw bits of the program. Most of us have to work long houres 7 days a week just to afford to go off for a month or two on the bikes and start saving again as soon as we come back for the next one. I would love if I was given a few Snap On tools and would carefuly look after them for the rest of my life(I realy dont think they apreceated what they where given). I could go on like this for some time but its been said allready so I won't. I just want to reminde pepole what they set out to do, and that was to make a program to put on tv that was going to entertain the most pepole. Most pepole dont ride bikes, dont travel unles its to a resort in spain or somwhere like that and most dont know the first thing about bike's. So although I hated the program myself (I admit its more to do whith jelasy than anything else), its probably done the world of bikeing more good than harm when it comes to the majority of the public that dont ride. Do as I, swhich it off when it became to much. One more thing, that american was a d### ####.
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Exclamation i disagree im afraid....

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its probably done the world of bikeing more good than harm when it comes to the majority of the public that dont ride.
What it has done is reinforced into the publics minds that bikers are Fart-Lighting, foul-Mouthed, wheelie Crazy idiots!! an Image we have been trying to get away from!!!!!!!!

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Well I liked it, not as much as I liked Long Way Round, but that's because it seemed a bit rushed - and that's not really their fault ..

As for the fire, come on guys it's TV, they didn't leave the fire burning ..

And the support crew? .. etc
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I totally agree with all you say - couldn't have put it better meself.
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I totally agree with all you say - couldn't have put it better meself.
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What it has done is reinforced into the publics minds that bikers are Fart-Lighting, foul-Mouthed, wheelie Crazy idiots!! an Image we have been trying to get away from!!!!!!!!
Sorry mate but, It sounds like you are a car driver with a bike.

Nothing at all wrong with going camping with your mates and pulling a few wheelies on route. Sitting round a camp fire talking bollocks, farting, belching and swearing, are all natural bi-products of drinking.

Charley is the one that's got it right. Ewan is just too touchy/feely/girly/anal for me.

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Nothing at all wrong with going camping with your mates and pulling a few wheelies on route. Sitting round a camp fire talking bollocks, farting, belching and swearing, are all natural bi-products of drinking.

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I don't drink so what can my excuse be for this kind of behaviour ?

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Sorry mate but, It sounds like you are a car driver with a bike.

Nothing at all wrong with going camping with your mates and pulling a few wheelies on route. Sitting round a camp fire talking bollocks, farting, belching and swearing, are all natural bi-products of drinking.

Charley is the one that's got it right. Ewan is just too touchy/feely/girly/anal for me.

John
sorry Redboots, been a Biker all my life, hate cars, I DONT OWN ONE, only passed car test cos its handy, ride 365, even when I was in the UK ( winter on a Wildstar was fun in the ice!)
I love pulling wheelies, ( I own an XT600 for goodness sake....) have lit the odd fart myself BUT I dont pull wheelies on main roads, in front of kids, pedestrians, crowds... places where if I SCREW UP and fall off SOMEONE ELSE gets hurt.
The point I was making was that this guy posted this..... and I disagreed with him,

Originally Posted by rhunjones
its probably done the world of bikeing more good than harm when it comes to the majority of the public that dont ride.



Idid not say it wasnt OK to pull wheelies, light farts, belch, swear, etc if you wanna do that its up to you. all I was saying is that to the general public the non bike riding plebs, it makes ALL bikers look like Mr C. Boorman, because the general public being lemmings, believe everything they see on the damn TV! and therefore tar us ALL WITH THE SAME BRUSH!!!!!!!
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