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Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 15:54

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Originally Posted by CornishDeity
All thats very funny.

If you want my two-pennys worth then here goes .....

Not all speeding is bad, but lots of speeding is. Unfortuntaley people who choose to speed in a bad way are using the same right of freedom as those who choose to speed in a good way. i.e. the Law is wrong, I am right.

Hence I do not think it can be a simple idea of speeding is right or wrong. Driving is either good or bad.

But, as for cameras. Well, its not like you are not told the speed limits. You make the choice. But I think the fact that getting caught speeding 4 times in the UK can result in a ban. I don't mind reasonable fines, but a ban would result in me loosing my job. And in certain circumstances this could lead to a spiral out of control.... hence a bad thing for society not good.

Not sure what I'm trying to say, but as long as the meek do not inherit the earth I'll be happy :)

I want to help you so check this. You wont get to Sydney cos you havent got a bike.
You say you like cricket. This is a wally's game you know. Its like watching paint dry but less interesting. Those who play it look rather silly with white lipstick on and running like buggery to throw a little ball 5 metres. Why not play a real game like baseball or tiddlywinks?

I'll be back
H.Meek

Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 15:58

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Originally Posted by Redboots
Now how would you know if I have a Yamaha Chappy?

Its just amazing the bollocks you come out with and even more amazing that I bother to read it! But its been a slow week.

Yes redboots, did you feel that flush of shame when you realised I wasnt speaking bollocks but you were? You ride a Chappy and tried to blame me. The Americans have a word for those such as you - "Dork". :cool4:


Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 16:07

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Originally Posted by Atwoke
Well, John,

If you put it in your public profile it doesn't exactly take a clairvoyant.:eek3: ..whoops, difficult word, carefull with the spelling unless you want to be slaughtered by The Meek...

What an exchange, looking forward to more...and No, I don't really want to end up in the firing line....

Bu the way, Herbie, If you are such a superior driver by not spedding, and I, with my 20 years of being between 10% and 100% over the speedlimit am such a danger to public safety and generally speaking public enemy No. 1, How come I end up in the middle of a five car pile up and nothing is touching me or my car? How come I have never had an accident, bike or box? By the way, I'm driving about 30,000miles a year...

Oh, forgot to say, I'm speeding, therefore I must be a better driver....

What great fun all this opinionated drivel can be!



So you are a German Geordie?.(Divvint dunshus morgenmuffel. ) And also a Projectile Engineer. So what do you project? Did you make the Ballistas for Hadrians Wall? Are you that old? But you were right to slap down that silly man with the Chappy. Cheeky Chappy I say.

I'll be back.:nono:

Mr. Ron 29 Sep 2006 16:22

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Originally Posted by Herbert Meek


I am an incredibly safe driver - it's others who have caused my 4 accidents by doing illegal moves.


...Herbert, this makes no sense. All motorcycle riders who have had an accident can say "oh, it was his fault, he blew a red light...etc" but the bottom line is, if you ride a bike and you have an accident, it's your fault! We are far too exposed and vulnrable to allow other bad drivers to harm us. Someone in a cage blows a stopsign and hits you while talking an the phone, it's your fault for not anticipating, or not driving defensively. I never enter an intersection without making sure some knob in a cage won't kill me. I never pass someone unless i know he's aware of my presence. To say you are an incredibly safe driver and in the same line state that your four?? accidents were all their fault ruins your credibility.
Herbert, if you choose to drive the speed limit at all times, that's okay. Sometimes people need to do these types of things to make themselves feel good, but like i mentioned before, please pull over and let the rest of us by. Speed doesn't kill, speed indiference kills. You might even have less accidents if you follow the flow instead of fighting against it.

Redboots 29 Sep 2006 17:38

[QUOTE=Atwoke]Well, John,

If you put it in your public profile it doesn't exactly take a clairvoyant.:eek3: QUOTE]

Bugger

Dodger 29 Sep 2006 18:23

Herbie the Meek Masturbator warned ":

quote - "I'll be back. " - unquote .

In what guise ?

Failed mendicant monks are often diagnosed with personality disorders , could you have a split personality ?

Do you hear voices ,Herbie ?

CornishDaddy 29 Sep 2006 19:00

Minor Deity
 
Hey herbie - I may only be a minor deity, but it was me that heard your prayers when you were bashing the bishop! You should be ashamed of yourself !

Atwoke 29 Sep 2006 19:04

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Originally Posted by Herbert Meek
y cos you need all the help you can get.

Bashing my Bishop means I hit him - nothing else. I was a little drunk and took a swing at him.

I think I figured out why you had the accidents! Surely assaulting a fellow man of the cloth does something terrible to your Karma??? :innocent:

moggy 1968 29 Sep 2006 19:29

Meanwhile back to the original thread rather than an exchange of insults
headline in the torrygraph today.
'case for speed cameras gone in a flash'
essentially the rather lengthy front page article says:

a recent study established that less than 5% of accidents are caused by speeds. the governements figures on reduction in injuries do not accord with that of the Royal College of Surgeons which shows no reduction since the implementation of speed cameras etc etc etc.


I am sure the increase in speed cameras and the resultant brainwashing surrounding their use has nothing to do with the 100 fold increase in revenue from the fines!!

moggy 1968 29 Sep 2006 19:30

and back to the slinging of insults:
Herbie, you claim to have never broken the law but you break the laws of nature by your very existance!!

Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 21:13

A Modern Miracle will happen!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodger
Herbie the Meek Masturbator warned ":

quote - "I'll be back. " - unquote .

In what guise ?

Failed mendicant monks are often diagnosed with personality disorders , could you have a split personality ?

Do you hear voices ,Herbie ?

My dear friends in the Lord will see that Dodger wants to kill me. Look how rude he is to me. I am not afraid of wimps so don't worry for me. I love this sad man and want to help him, as my brother biker.

I believe that the devil has entered his body (with his enthusiastic permission) with a Satanic 9 inch nail. This makes Dodger talk out of his arse but it's not his fault - it's the devil speaking.

So I want to reverse this situation and perform a miracle on the Net for Dodger. I want you all to think of Dodger out there in a beautiful Canadian forest but alone. He says he will shoot people like me who want to visit to help him. I will reverse the evil the devil has done and soon, within one week he will talk normally out of his mouth. His posts will be gentle. His wife, he says, has run away, mad with sorrow and fear. He is alone, save for sheep and cattle. I am worried that the devil will make him the father of a new race of creature, who don't have bikes. I am worried for the sheep there in his care as he may try to make this new race called Shuman beings - halfman, halfsheep. He wants to be Big Daddy..

We can help him. Place your hands on your screen and think of Dodger - go on, dont be shy! Energy will flow to him out there down the lines; he will be healed of nastiness and soon :cool4: travel the world bearing proudly the Maple Leaf which ensures all bikers safe passage. Check his future posts and see that I am right. Please.

Help this demented and lonely man.....help those unsuspecting sheep....

ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE!!!!!! In Nomine Patris et Filii Sancti; Ite missa est.

Father H. Meek (SJ)

Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 21:17

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Originally Posted by moggy 1968
Meanwhile back to the original thread rather than an exchange of insults
headline in the torrygraph today.
'case for speed cameras gone in a flash'
essentially the rather lengthy front page article says:

a recent study established that less than 5% of accidents are caused by speeds. the governements figures on reduction in injuries do not accord with that of the Royal College of Surgeons which shows no reduction since the implementation of speed cameras etc etc etc.


I am sure the increase in speed cameras and the resultant brainwashing surrounding their use has nothing to do with the 100 fold increase in revenue from the fines!!

You miss the point my lovely friend - obeying the law is the point. I never saw the Royal College of surgeons driving a bike so what do they know - indeed what do you know? Nothing I suspect. :cool4: And who are you to tell us "back to the thread"? Are you some kind of control freak? A Francoist?

Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 21:19

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Originally Posted by Atwoke
I think I figured out why you had the accidents! Surely assaulting a fellow man of the cloth does something terrible to your Karma??? :innocent:

Ah it's the German Geordie.....my karma is lovely because I pay my fines willingly. I will grass you up if you break the law...

Please help me save Dodger:euro:

Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 21:21

help
 
:detective:
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Originally Posted by CornishDeity
Hey herbie - I may only be a minor deity, but it was me that heard your prayers when you were bashing the bishop! You should be ashamed of yourself !

Help me save Dodger. He is bashing his Bishop and anyone else's he can but what about those poor sheep?

Herbert Meek 29 Sep 2006 21:24

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Originally Posted by moggy 1968
and back to the slinging of insults:
Herbie, you claim to have never broken the law but you break the laws of nature by your very existance!!

Yes you all insult me but I am meek to you all and forgive you; probably.Help me save Dodger. What is he dodging?:helpsmilie:


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