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Old 23 Jan 2008
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Bike Security

As my trip draws close the little things start to bother me...
There are going to be times when I leave my bike unattended, my question is a simple one... Do i need to take a bike chain and lock?
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I carry a bloody big one, it goes through my back wheel and ties up around my pannier racks if there's nothing else to anchor it to. I tend to use street lights trees etc but it’s only for show as it’s just to stop the opportunist thieves, the real ones will take your bike if they want it or not.

With a can of computer screen cleaner, and a hammer I can have pretty much have any padlock off your bike in about a minute, I don’t care what padlocks on there be it a £5 one or an £80 quid one. And chains can be cut with bolt cutters just as quickly how do you think the AA deals with lost padlock keys?

A packsafe is great for stuff that’s on the back of your bike, but only again as a deterrent to the opportunists.
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This is a interesting site for those into locks and chains
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Im using a thick wire lock about 1,5 m long, which I normally route from the backwheel and luggage racks to something solid like a lamppost. Plus a sturdy brake disk lock in the front. They dont weight too much or take up too much space.....

And they probably wont stop a professional thief, but then I usually always try to put the bike away in such a place that the thieves wont see or wont dare enter. I think the place you'll park the bike for the night will be the most important shield against thieves. If your on a long trip, the hotel and guesthouse owners normally understand quite well, that you want protection for your vehicle, so they allow you to put it away from the street.
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My bike was locked and chained in my locked garage, my car was locked in front of my bike inside the garage. The BS broke in, shunted my car out of the way, broke the bike locks and were pushing the bike up the drive when my wife let our dogs out and they still got away. The Police had the attitude " your insured arn't you " err no, my wife pointed out that I was away in Saudi and wasn't using the bike.
So if they want your bike they will get it,you can only guard against the opportunist.
The Police even warned my wife that if the scumbags reported us for setting our dogs on them we would be in trouble.
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In South Africa the police advise that if you catch a burglar in the act it's better to kill them than injure them in case they try to make a claim against you or try to extract revenge against you once they are released.
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My bike was locked and chained in my locked garage, my car was locked in front of my bike inside the garage. The BS broke in, shunted my car out of the way, broke the bike locks and were pushing the bike up the drive when my wife let our dogs out and they still got away. The Police had the attitude " your insured arn't you " err no, my wife pointed out that I was away in Saudi and wasn't using the bike.
So if they want your bike they will get it,you can only guard against the opportunist.
The Police even warned my wife that if the scumbags reported us for setting our dogs on them we would be in trouble.
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I agree that if a theif wants it bad enough they will get it. However, if you make it hard for the theif they will likely pass your bike up and go for the easy one. I brought a lock for my bike. It is the thickest cable combination lock that I could find at HD. I opted for lighter weight than heavy security. I have seen guys with gigantic locks down here, but your talking about an extra 15 lbs of weight. I think your better off going light weight and doing common sense things like not leaving your bike overnight on a dark unprotected street.

If you are really paranoid I would say lock your rotors through the holes with pad locks. I am too forgetful to remember to always unlock something like that. (a cracked rotor makes your bike non usable.)
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In South Africa the police advise that if you catch a burglar in the act it's better to kill them than injure them in case they try to make a claim against you or try to extract revenge against you once they are released.
Haai meneer, as die einbreeker swart is en die polisie ook, en jy nie, dan is jy in die k@k, ek sê ;-)

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Haai meneer, as die einbreeker swart is en die polisie ook, en jy nie, dan is jy in die k@k, ek sê ;-)

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hans is it like

"if the police shot them it is ok, but if you shot them, you are in big sh..t??"

i think it is a combination of German, Dutch and English
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As my trip draws close the little things start to bother me...
There are going to be times when I leave my bike unattended, my question is a simple one... Do i need to take a bike chain and lock?
I use one of those steel cables with a magnetic lock all the time here in Brazil.
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i think it is a combination of German, Dutch and English

Otherwise known as Afrikaans...
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I have bought a few Almax chains for my bikes. With a groundanchor, I think a good chain is the best deterrent. Alarms are too easily ignored, or silenced, if you know how.

Only downside to the Almax: weight. About 10kg or over per metre.... A big minus, when trying to pack light...
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Almax and Youtube..

I bought a couple of Almax chains and they are great. Maxime at Almax (UK) is a lovely lady and will help you pick the right chain for the right bike/job..

And if you want to see what they are like in action;

YouTube - Almax Series 4 and Series 3 getting jiggy with the croppers.

The only problem i can see for the travelling person is, they do weigh a lot and are pretty bulky. But if your going to be leaving the bike the well, they are certainly a decent chain..

Oh people might wish to view this vid as well;
YouTube - Various Sold Secure and Thatcham chains chopped. shows you the real strength of some popular chains..
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bike security

I'm lucky my harley has security alarm plus if moved they cant start it. of course they can put it on triler and sell it for parts but its a good deterant. i also use a disclock and chain it to something. but if they want it they will get it!!!!



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